Conor Gallagher

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Wait, let me get this straight……Brennan Johnson at the age of 22 with some of the best physical attributes as a winger in the league has a very limited ceiling coming off 9 goals in his first year in the Premier League. Yet, you determined a kid playing in one of the most open leagues in the world at relatively the same age range is a better option when his production was less on a top team in an easier league?

These types of takes are laughable.

For starters he's 2 years younger, that's a lot of development time (8 goals btw).

Secondly, if you actually analyse the players, watch them, look at their raw skillsets etc then imo it's clear Bakayoko has a higher 'potential' ceiling because he has better technique, better control, much better 1 on 1 dribbling ability and still has the physical qualities you mentioned with Johnson.

Analysing Johnson's style of play, he suits counter attacks and transitional teams where as I feel Bakayoko has a more well rounded game that translates to a better side who will dominate possession (but still have counter chances too). Therefore I believe he has a higher ceiling and he would also cost half the money.

I would apply the same logic to Nico Williams too.

So you can laugh all you like but some of us enjoy watching players in other leagues and scouting them. Just because you may know nothing about them don't assume we are all the same.

To me, spending £100 million Gallagher and Johnson is absolutely nuts and a waste of money and resources. For that kind of money, go and get actual ceiling raisers or super high potential players.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Bayern Munich battle Tottenham for Conor Gallagher and push for Palhinha

Tottenham are set to make a late attempt to sign Chelsea’s Conor Gallagher, who is also on Bayern Munich’s radar

www.theguardian.com

Tottenham to rival Bayern Munich in move for Chelsea’s Conor Gallagher​

• Spurs trying to find buyer for Pierre-Emile Højbjerg
• Romelu Lukaku completes loan move to Roma

Tottenham are set to make a late attempt to sign Chelsea’s Conor Gallagher, who is also on Bayern Munich’s radar, as they look to bolster Thomas Tuchel’s options in midfield.

Gallagher captained Chelsea during their victory over AFC Wimbledon on Wednesday night and Mauricio Pochettino has started him in every game this season. However, the midfielder has less than two years left on his deal and it is understood there is a strong chance of him leaving his boyhood club before the transfer window shuts on Friday night.

Chelsea have spent heavily on their midfield this summer, buying Moisés Caicedo, Lesley Ugochukwu and Roméo Lavia, and they are open to offers for Gallagher. The midfielder is not in a rush to leave and is rated by Pochettino, but Chelsea have repeatedly demonstrated that they are not afraid to sell players for the right price this summer.

It remains to be seen how much Spurs are willing to pay for Gallagher, who is valued at £50m. Spurs, who are also expected to bid for the Nottingham Forest winger Brennan Johnson, have been monitoring Gallagher throughout the summer and have funds available after selling Harry Kane to Bayern Munich. The England international’s workrate and ability to play in a variety of roles would make him a good fit in Ange Postecoglou’s 4-3-3 system.

Much could depend on whether Spurs are able to find a buyer for Pierre-Emile Højbjerg. The Denmark international has been deemed surplus to requirements and has been linked with Atlético Madrid and Manchester United. Spurs are desperate to sell their fringe players, not least because their squad contains 20 non-locally trained senior players; Premier League rules permit 17 in the 25-man group. Højbjerg leaving would make it easier for them to sign Gallagher, who counts as a homegrown player.

Postecoglou has lined up with Yves Bissouma as a No 6 this season, with James Maddison and Pape Matar Sarr as the No 8s. Postecoglou has also used Olivier Skipp in midfield, while he is waiting for Rodrigo Bentancur to return from a long-term knee injury.

Spurs are not alone in tracking Gallagher. Tuchel worked with the 23-year-old during his time at Chelsea and is interested in bringing him to Bayern. However, the German champions are unlikely to convince Chelsea to send Gallagher to them on loan. Brighton also like Gallagher but are unlikely to be able to afford him.

 

[tubbygold]

Smokescreen for Bayern, as they're obviously going for Dier

 

[Kirito]

I would apply the same logic to Nico Williams too.

Right everyone, take a shot!

 

[wrd]

If he wasn't homegrown, would his name have made it on the transfer forum this summer?

 

[McFlash]

So you can laugh all you like but some of us enjoy watching players in other leagues and scouting them

 

[Trix]

Bissouma, Bentancur (once fit), Sarr, Gallagher, Skipp would be a lot of quality for two positions with 4 of them expecting to start.

Gallagher seems most similar in profile to Skipp (at least, what we are trying to do with Skipp with him arriving in the penalty area), so I do wonder if he has a long term future here if we are pushing for CG.

How good do those options look during the ACoN?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

How good do those options look during the ACoN?

Agree, I think if we sell PEH or GLC we absolutely need to sign another CM, Gallagher is a great profile but can't see it happening myself.

 

[Nocando]

For starters he's 2 years younger, that's a lot of development time (8 goals btw).

Secondly, if you actually analyse the players, watch them, look at their raw skillsets etc then imo it's clear Bakayoko has a higher 'potential' ceiling because he has better technique, better control, much better 1 on 1 dribbling ability and still has the physical qualities you mentioned with Johnson.

Analysing Johnson's style of play, he suits counter attacks and transitional teams where as I feel Bakayoko has a more well rounded game that translates to a better side who will dominate possession (but still have counter chances too). Therefore I believe he has a higher ceiling and he would also cost half the money.

I would apply the same logic to Nico Williams too.

So you can laugh all you like but some of us enjoy watching players in other leagues and scouting them. Just because you may know nothing about them don't assume we are all the same.

To me, spending £100 million Gallagher and Johnson is absolutely nuts and a waste of money and resources. For that kind of money, go and get actual ceiling raisers or super high potential players.

A bit off topic but sometimes over confidence and self assurance can come back to bite you. Ndombele being the classic example. Everything is a risk and there are never any knowns. Some people are just good judges and risk takers. Even then it doesn't always work out.

Btw i also hate this ceiling bollocks. Means absolutely nothing. If we had asked what Kanes ceiling was at 18 we'd have said comparative to a bungalow.

 

[JayB]

It’s becoming clear that without Hojbjerg (and possibly even with him), we don’t currently have anyone available who can slot in for Bissouma.

I’d personally prefer that we wait and see whether Bentancur can be that player, but I can understand why we’re looking at the No. 6 position.

 

[gazzeh]

How good do those options look during the ACoN?

If i've done my maths correctly... they miss a grand total of ONE match.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It’s becoming clear that without Hojbjerg (and possibly even with him), we don’t currently have anyone available who can slot in for Bissouma.

I’d personally prefer that we wait and see whether Bentancur can be that player, but I can understand why we’re looking at the No. 6 position.

Gallagher isn't a 6.

Bentancur can cover 6 for sure, I think Sarr could also.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If i've done my maths correctly... they miss a grand total of ONE match.

I thought they'd miss more than that if they got to QF's onwards possibly 3?

 

[Trix]

If i've done my maths correctly... they miss a grand total of ONE match.

Haven't looked into it in depth tbh but if we only play once between 13th of January and the 11th of February then we haven't anything to worry about I guess.

 

[Derryank]

All in

 

[mark87]

If i've done my maths correctly... they miss a grand total of ONE match.

Think you need a new calculator.

 

[Hotspur88]

If i've done my maths correctly... they miss a grand total of ONE match.

They will potentially miss 4 games which starts with UTD away on the 13th Jan.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

A bit off topic but sometimes over confidence and self assurance can come back to bite you. Ndombele being the classic example. Everything is a risk and there are never any knowns. Some people are just good judges and risk takers. Even then it doesn't always work out.

Btw i also hate this ceiling bollocks. Means absolutely nothing. If we had asked what Kanes ceiling was at 18 we'd have said comparative to a bungalow.

Totally and I get things right and wrong just like everyone. But the response I had was just rude and ignorant tbh. I wasn't being over confident, I was simply giving my opinion on the players having watched all of them.

Another thing is when people say God we can't risk signing foreign players, they are more likely to flop, when PL players flop all the time. Look at Richarlison! £60m down the drain for a so called 'PL proven' player.

My overall point was I think there's better value to be had outside of the PL because the prices have gone insane. For 1 Connor Gallagher at £50 million, we may be able to get 2/3 good talents (look at Udogie and Sarr for example).

 

[THFCSPURS19]

They will potentially miss 4 games which starts with UTD away on the 13th Jan.

The 2-week winter break is directly after that game so further games would only be missed if players got far in AFCON.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

The last time we bought a senior player from Chelsea was Gustavo Poyet in 2001. I knew that leadership at Chelsea has changed but I'll believe it when I see it.