Conor Gallagher

[BorjeSpurs]

I'm wondering if they'll try to use Broja to get Toney. Broja would suit the way Brentford play as well.

 

[jordibwoy]

Let's see if the Boehly x Saudi ties are real or not. It's the only chance of them getting anywhere near 50m

 

[Stoof]

So, like, Matt Law is just a Chelsea mouthpiece, then?

Yup, full on ringpiece.

 

[only1waddle]

I'm wondering if they'll try to use Broja to get Toney. Broja would suit the way Brentford play as well.

I wondered whether Arsenal would do the same with Nketiah.

 

[bbunc]

They must be fucking mad more like. The days of clubs paying over the odds for the likes of Broja are over. Do they think they’re the only club struggling the PSR/FFP?

The top clubs won’t want him, the second tier probably don’t need him, and the mid to low end teams can’t afford him. The chances of a European club paying that are laughable too.

I don’t know - they sold Havertz and Mount to other EPL teams for 60M+ each. Maybe they think United or Arsenal will be idiots again. Worth a shot.

 

[Tucker]

I don’t know - they sold Havertz and Mount to other EPL teams for 60M+ each. Maybe they think United or Arsenal will be idiots again. Worth a shot.

They were at least both regular starters and full internationals.

 

[What Lies Beneath]

Not sure who’s gonna be buying him if this what they value him at.

Look behind the article please

 

[Duskwen]

Look behind the article please

That they are getting desperate to find the cash?

 

[What Lies Beneath]

That they are getting desperate to find the cash?

They need to raise 50 million and they know they are not getting that for broja unless somthing fishy goes on the article is in reflection for what they will sell Connor for . We won’t push it like I said they gotta pick up the phone we have other targets anyway for the moment we are pursuing

 

[SpursSince1980]

They need to raise 50 million and they know they are not getting that for broja unless somthing fishy goes on the article is in reflection for what they will sell Connor for . We won’t push it like I said they gotta pick up the phone we have other targets anyway for the moment we are pursuing

Sounds like they are screwed no matter what. As it’s impossible to see any club (especially us) even considering 40m for Gallagher. Perhaps we would consider something around 35m, but that doesn’t help Chelsea raise the full 50m.

And it’s not surprising we have other irons in the fire that id imagine are less expensive but maybe equally productive as Connor.

 

[Spriggan]

Boehly/Clearlake came in swinging their dicks, they made their bed so let them rot in it!

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Nah they won't have to sell all of them imo.

I reckon they sell Broja, Chalobah and Maatsen between now and the summer. Gallagher will end up signing a new deal imo.

I'm not sure about that, Broja and Chalobah are not that great.

I'd be surprised if anyone in the times of FFP would be able to offer the sort of money they'd need.

Only West Ham could pay the sort of money and be stupid enough to pay it. The times of bargains are coming, whose going to pay 35m for young left back?

Unless Maatsen turns out to be the second coming of Bale Dortmund won't pay the fee.

I think it'll be alot more difficult to sell their home grown players for good prices.

Gallagher is still the biggest money maker imo. They might have to sell all them all to survive the FFP imo.

 

[Adam456]

I did a big post about how we are probably fine for FFP earlier in this thread with a lot of guestimates and there are even more unknowns for Chelsea and we have no way of knowing how close they are sailing to the wind until they tell us

If anybody is interested:

With amortisation (marking down the 'asset' value of a player in equal portions until their contract expires or they are sold) a player bought for £40m creates an accounting 'loss' of £8m per season over a 5 year contract (because they are worth zero when the contract expires). If they sign a new contract after 3 years then the remaining value is spread across the years of the new contract. So to keep it simple if after 3 years they re-sign for 4 years that is £16m spread across 4 years = £4m loss per season. If they sell the player instead the money is recorded in that year's profit and loss but is the transfer fee minus the remaining value. So if they sell the player for £25m they record a £9m 'profit'. Conversely, academy players had no initial transfer fee so their 'asset' value is zero. Sell them for £25m and you record it all as profit in the current season. Remember that Chelsea got £55m for Mason Mount and quite a wedge for others

Obviously Chelsea also signed a number of players on 8 year deals (before the rules were changed) so the annual loss on new signings is lower. Keeping track of that across 25+ players over multiple years + their wages is quite a decent spreadsheet by itself. Before you even talk about non-transfer revenues and other costs. And then...after all that .. they're actually allowed to lose £105m over any 3 year period.

So it could be that they think they'll be fine this season and it only hits in 2025 or 2026 when good figures (profit or small losses) drop off the back of the 3 year calculation.

Or could be that they need to make £20 / £30 / £40m in the first half of 2024 to stay within the rules. Impossible to say unless you have all of the numbers

One thing is for sure, their lack of European football will be doing them no favours so it's hard to see them making more significant signings without selling first

 

[Trix]

The only team stupid enough to pay Chelsea £50 mil for Broja is, well, Chelsea.

 

[luRRka]

The only team stupid enough to pay Chelsea £50 mil for Broja is, well, Chelsea.

They're confident because teams like arsenal pay them 65m for kai fucking havertz

Edit - not that anyone will pay 50 for broja

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I did a big post about how we are probably fine for FFP earlier in this thread with a lot of guestimates and there are even more unknowns for Chelsea and we have no way of knowing how close they are sailing to the wind until they tell us

If anybody is interested:

With amortisation (marking down the 'asset' value of a player in equal portions until their contract expires or they are sold) a player bought for £40m creates an accounting 'loss' of £8m per season over a 5 year contract (because they are worth zero when the contract expires). If they sign a new contract after 3 years then the remaining value is spread across the years of the new contract. So to keep it simple if after 3 years they re-sign for 4 years that is £16m spread across 4 years = £4m loss per season. If they sell the player instead the money is recorded in that year's profit and loss but is the transfer fee minus the remaining value. So if they sell the player for £25m they record a £9m 'profit'. Conversely, academy players had no initial transfer fee so their 'asset' value is zero. Sell them for £25m and you record it all as profit in the current season. Remember that Chelsea got £55m for Mason Mount and quite a wedge for others

Obviously Chelsea also signed a number of players on 8 year deals (before the rules were changed) so the annual loss on new signings is lower. Keeping track of that across 25+ players over multiple years + their wages is quite a decent spreadsheet by itself. Before you even talk about non-transfer revenues and other costs. And then...after all that .. they're actually allowed to lose £105m over any 3 year period.

So it could be that they think they'll be fine this season and it only hits in 2025 or 2026 when good figures (profit or small losses) drop off the back of the 3 year calculation.

Or could be that they need to make £20 / £30 / £40m in the first half of 2024 to stay within the rules. Impossible to say unless you have all of the numbers

One thing is for sure, their lack of European football will be doing them no favours so it's hard to see them making more significant signings without selling first

That's it, no Europe this season and probably next. Lower TV money last season and this one.

I know their ticket prices are quite high but they don't have the biggest stadium. So it's hard to see their revenue covering their crazy spending in any way.

Apart from the dodgy sponsorship deals, they haven't got enough revenue to cover the costs. Remember Abramovic ran up a billion pound bill for Chelsea basically keeping them afloat.

I think they will probably need to sell ALL the rumored players to stay in line. And even then they might fall foul of FFP next year.

Imo they're desperate to sell Gallagher. Their whole ethos was that while they are challenging the money keeps flowing in, so the early investment was valid, but it hasn't worked out for them.
I really think they're in trouble here.

There is also the problem of the wage bill to income problem that'll pop up.

Good times

About time they got their comeuppance.

 

[Misfit]

It's about GD time the transfer market deflated a little. Our sodding club record just a decade ago was £30-odd million. That just about gets you some 17 yr old RB who attended a Rio Ferdinand camp once back when they were 11 and has all their swimming badges these days.

 

[Col_M]

They've recalled Cesare Casadei from Leicester (who are top of the Championship). He's played 21 games for them. Thats proper game time and experience at a high level. They are either loaning him out to a PL club OR need him back in readiness for someone's exit..... Watch this space.

 

[Rob]

Bet Poch can't wait to find out either

 

[only1waddle]

They've recalled Cesare Casadei from Leicester (who are top of the Championship). He's played 21 games for them. Thats proper game time and experience at a high level. They are either loaning him out to a PL club OR need him back in readiness for someone's exit..... Watch this space.

Or they have another injury...