Controversial opinion

[THFCSPURS19]

Is this not a contradiction?

How? I'm saying Hojbjerg is overly criticised and we shouldn't sell him.

Edit - tbf maybe badly phrased

 

[dontcallme]

How? I'm saying Hojbjerg is overly criticised and we shouldn't sell him.

Edit - tbf maybe badly phrased

To give someone slack means to not be overly critical or give them leeway for bad behaviour or performance.

I think you mean he gets too much stick.

 

[dontcallme]

The only difference between Poch and other "successful" Spurs managers during Levy's reign is that Harry Kane, the greatest striker in Prem history, came through our academy, so he was gifted a once in a life time player. Other than that, all the praise he gets are people being selective in order to keep up the fantasy that there is more to this than having good players. I love Poch, but swap Kane for any of our best strikers under Jol, Redknapp and AVB (and we had some very good one's) and we are just as good. Swap Kane for Adebayor in 2011/12 or Crouch in 2009/10 and we finish in the top 3. If Jol had Kane in 2005/6, then we easily finish in the top 4 with a cheap team, that had the 9th highest wages, but in a much, much better league. There is zero chance of Leicester winning the league with a prime Mourinho Chelsea, an SAF Utd and Henry/Wenger Arsenal.

I agree to an extent with regards to the players being more important than the manager. Give world class players to a so-called average manager and he'll usually still do well.

With managers, I think them being the right fit is more important than most other factors. Poch was a great fit for where we were.

 

[Japhet]

To give someone slack means to not be overly critical or give them leeway for bad behaviour or performance.

I think you mean he gets too much stick.

Flack.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

The acoustics in the new stadium are wasted on our fans. The NLD last year was amazing but its rarely ever like it. The away fans often make it better. If we had the passion of say Liverpool fans our home form would be better. We want to turn our home into a fortress but the fans are the ones letting us down in that regard.

Interesting. I would say partly the crap football doesn’t help and I don’t mean poor results. Fans and players feed off each other, we have been often lifeless as a team for 4-5 seasons now.

against Arsenal the crowd was wild at the start of the game this season then the players where limp from the start and the energy just drained.

if Slot isn’t able to turn it around playing a great style then I think you might be right but I think Liverpool fans would be pretty flat after 4-5 seasons of Jose, Nuno and Conte.

 

[dontcallme]

Flack.

Also works.

 

[DenverSpur]

I should be a mod.

Not a rocker?

 

[mil1lion]

Interesting. I would say partly the crap football doesn’t help and I don’t mean poor results. Fans and players feed off each other, we have been often lifeless as a team for 4-5 seasons now.

against Arsenal the crowd was wild at the start of the game this season then the players where limp from the start and the energy just drained.

if Slot isn’t able to turn it around playing a great style then I think you might be right but I think Liverpool fans would be pretty flat after 4-5 seasons of Jose, Nuno and Conte.

It's a double edged sword because if fans aren't behind the team then it also doesn't lift the players. It doesn't help if fans moan every time the ball is played backwards either. We have fans with the mindset of a big club but players who don't have the mentality of a big club. They lose confidence easy like Conte said so rely more heavily on the crowd. There's plenty of poor teams who have great atmosphere. I think it just comes down to expectations and maybe ours are too high. We are essentially underdogs but we're the biggest club in the underdog bracket so act like we should roll over everyone outside the top 6. Fans talk about West Ham treating the fixture like a cup final but that's a good thing. We don't do this often enough and a big part of it is the flat atmosphere which doesnt lift the players or give them the sense the game is important. We often raise our voice more for the big games only.

Another possible controversial opinion is we are not as big a club as people think we are. We have similar trophy succes to Villa and Everton but act bigger.

 

[jbstarr14]

I should be a mod.

You can be…

 

[DenverSpur]

We never won anything with Poch because he lacked a winner’s mentality. Any other decent manager would have left Leicester eating our dust on the way to winning the title.

 

[dontcallme]

We never won anything with Poch because he lacked a winner’s mentality. Any other decent manager would have left Leicester eating our dust on the way to winning the title.

I'm as good as certain that this isn't remotely true.

 

[mil1lion]

We never won anything with Poch because he lacked a winner’s mentality. Any other decent manager would have left Leicester eating our dust on the way to winning the title.

Despite the quality of the first team Poch still overachieved with the lack of depth to perform well in all competitions. People talk about how great the team was but it was largely developed by Poch and there were only a few good subs. Leicester and Chelsea took advantage of no European football.

 

[Insomnia]

How? I'm saying Hojbjerg is overly criticised and we shouldn't sell him.

Edit - tbf maybe badly phrased

And that’s why you’ll never be a Mod

 

[PhC]

Puns are too rare in here

 

[PhC]

Puns are too rare in here

Though many of them are half baked, really

 

[HodisGawd]

The last 20 years has on average seen us score more goals, win more matches, finish higher in the league and field better players than any other period in our history.

Our fans are just too ignorant, entitled, impatient, entrenched and unrealistic to acknowledge that.

 

[Klinsmannic]

I don't think we're far away from creating an exciting, competitive, potentially trophy-winning team. A good manager coming in and smart recruitment this summer gets us back on track really quickly.

 

[bradfordspur]

Our medical team are second to none and have an enviable record of success in managing players health and fitness conditioning.

 

[moomin]

romero is massively overrated

 

[Bing]

I don't think we're far away from creating an exciting, competitive, potentially trophy-winning team. A good manager coming in and smart recruitment this summer gets us back on track really quickly.

I like what you are saying but when I think about our defence I think we have a lot of work still to do.

Right now we probably have one defensive player (including GKs) who is top quality - Romero....and even his quality is not without doubts at the moment. Royal and Porro could go either way next season. Davies is decent but not top quality. The rest vary from back-up to shocking. I think we need at four defensive signings and a couple in midfield and attack (creative AM and better back-up rotation for Bentancur and Bissouma).

There are still a number of transfer windows of shrewd singings required to get us back to hwere we were with Poch.