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McFlash

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Don't get me wrong, I don't think Levy is in any way perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of chairmen out there. Most clubs would kill for the progress we've made over the last 20-odd years.

I think I'm just fed up of fans, most of whom have practically no idea of what it takes to run a football club/complete multi-million pound transfers, thinking they know better than Levy. We run the risk of forcing him out and ending up with someone far, far worse.
That's it for me, really.
I don't want him or ENIC out of our club because they've done great things for us, I just want him to hand the football reigns over to someone more qualified.
If he could control the rest but leave the footballing decisions to someone more qualified, I'd be happy with that.

I don't necessarily want new owners, just more direction and focus (with maybe a little more ambition to take a risk sometimes, like, speculate to accumulate a bit more).
 

Tony-Bish

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The long overdue stadium naming rights deal would surpass the profits of any new infrastructure projects. If he gets that deal wrapped up, maybe then people will be less critical of other things being worked on in the background.
Meanwhile, Tottenham Hotspur has it’s name on the stadium. I think it’s a great idea to wait, if he believes we can continue to climb without selling the rights yet. We’ll get more when we’re reguarly challenging while also getting more exposure for events held at The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium
 

Tony-Bish

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The point is ENIC/Levy have absolutely No/Zero interest in Glory. They will only make sound business decisions, will never speculate to try and win something. Will never Dare to Do

That is the sad truth as loyal and passionate supporters

We could have Levy as Chairman for the next 20 years, continue to be extremely successful off the pitch with almost nothing in the trophy cabinet, with no ambition to actually win anything
Opinion is not truth. I think he does want glory, he’s just not putting that above making sure we’re financially sustainable. Also, we have been to two finals including a champions league final in the last 5 years. We didn’t win but we got there. 10 years ago I wouldn’t have believed I would ever see Spurs in a Champions league final. We are making progress, sometimes that looks like one step back two steps forward
 
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Spursmatty87

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He really doesn’t ever give confidence of winning trophies. Every time he speaks it’s about we don’t have the money others do.

I’d like to of heard him say something on the lines of we made mistakes with both players we signed and
he players we didn’t let go. In the future we are going to have clear strategy of how we will win. However, this will involve tough decisions that fans might not like at the time. However, it will be the best decision for the longer term ambition.
 

slartibartfast

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Tbf if I was running a business and wasted millions on Sanchez, Saldardo, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Gil, etc, etc, I'd be a bit hesitant in the transfer market. Despite popular opinion we do spend a lot of money on players, just badly.
I'm glad Conte has changed the whole scouting procedure because grankly it was a shit show and imo has been one of the biggest factors in halting progress in recent years. So many shit players we cant even shift out the door. So poor we've let a few go for nothing just to get rid! Thats not good business.
 

Tony-Bish

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He really doesn’t ever give confidence of winning trophies. Every time he speaks it’s about we don’t have the money others do.

I’d like to of heard him say something on the lines of we made mistakes with both players we signed and
he players we didn’t let go. In the future we are going to have clear strategy of how we will win. However, this will involve tough decisions that fans might not like at the time. However, it will be the best decision for the longer term ambition.
Sure he could do that. But he probably won’t. Just like our fans could look at all the positives but probably won’t.

You know it, I know it. Mistakes have been made, but believe it or not that is part of being successful, you have to make mistakes in the first place. I’d be delighted if he acknowledged them but maybe he feels insecure because of all the backlash. I really don’t care if he admits it, as long as he has a vision and is making steps to fulfil it. He’s done an amazing job so far, thankfully we’re not a chelsea or man city buying success which seems a little meaninglessn, I love that we’re building things the right way and we are moving in the right direction.

Before Poch, who’d have thought we’d have two of the most successful managers in recent history and a champs league final and regular top four finishes? Sounds like Conte is helping us build things behind the scenes to further improve too.

(full disclosure, I’ve edited a bit out where I was being presumptuous and that seemed to be the focus of this comment, as it was needless, I’m deleting it)

Right, helmet on, fire away. Much love
 
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Greybeard

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Sure he could do that. But he probably won’t. Just like our fans could look at all the positives but probably won’t.

You know it, I know it. Mistakes have been made, but believe it or not that is part of being successful, you have to make mistakes in the first place. I’d be delighted if he acknowledged them but maybe he feels insecure because of all the backlash. I really don’t care if he admits it, as long as he has a vision and is making steps to fulfil it. He’s done an amazing job so far, thankfully we’re not a chelsea or man city buying success which seems a little meaninglessn, I love that we’re building things the right way and we are moving in the right direction.

Before Poch, who’d have thought we’d have two of the most successful managers in recent history and a champs league final and regular top four finishes? Sounds like Conte is helping us build things behind the scenes to further improve too.

The ‘fans’ calling for Enic and Levy out are not actually supporters. It’s not support. These people would see this club gain short term success and then crash and burn, at which point they’d probably blame the club for being so sh*t and go and ‘support’ our brothers down the road who were patient.

Right, helmet on, fire away. Much love
I'm with you Tony-Bish
 

Trix

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Sure he could do that. But he probably won’t. Just like our fans could look at all the positives but probably won’t.

You know it, I know it. Mistakes have been made, but believe it or not that is part of being successful, you have to make mistakes in the first place. I’d be delighted if he acknowledged them but maybe he feels insecure because of all the backlash. I really don’t care if he admits it, as long as he has a vision and is making steps to fulfil it. He’s done an amazing job so far, thankfully we’re not a chelsea or man city buying success which seems a little meaninglessn, I love that we’re building things the right way and we are moving in the right direction.

Before Poch, who’d have thought we’d have two of the most successful managers in recent history and a champs league final and regular top four finishes? Sounds like Conte is helping us build things behind the scenes to further improve too.
These people would see this club gain short term success and then crash and burn, at which point they’d probably blame the club for being so sh*t and go and ‘support’ our brothers down the road who were patient.

Right, helmet on, fire away. Much love
I don't support Enic I support Tottenham Hotspur football club. And as for being patient, I've been patient. For twenty fucking years of plans and schemes I've been patient. I've supported Enic and Levy through the infrastructure and stadium rebuild, defending him and being patient. How many more years do we need to be patient, remember in Levy's own words "the stadium is a game changer".

NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
 

Tony-Bish

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I don't support Enic I support Tottenham Hotspur football club. And as for being patient, I've been patient. For twenty fucking years of plans and schemes I've been patient. I've supported Enic and Levy through the infrastructure and stadium rebuild, defending him and being patient. How many more years do we need to be patient, remember in Levy's own words "the stadium is a game changer".
NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
Really, nothing has changed?!

I seem to remember us being a mid table team, in an old small stadium.

We’re now regularly in the top 4, we’ve been to two finals including champions league (fine margins if we’d won one).

We have one of the most successful managers in charge. We’re making changes behind the scenes.

We are investing in the squad (60m on ndembele, richy) - the recruitment had been bad but we’ve made changes to that area too.

The returns from the stadium will have only just started coming.

How do you not see progress.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Really, nothing has changed?!

I seem to remember us being a mid table team, in an old small stadium.

We’re now regularly in the top 4, we’ve been to two finals including champions league (fine margins if we’d won one).

We have one of the most successful managers in charge. We’re making changes behind the scenes.

We are investing in the squad (60m on ndembele, richy) - the recruitment had been bad but we’ve made changes to that area too.

The returns from the stadium will have only just started coming.

How do you not see progress.
and all that with one of the greatest strikers of the modern era, who cost nothing. Funny that!!!!

Not a proper supporter if you don’t support ENIC/Levy

What an absolute clown you are
 

Styopa

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Really, nothing has changed?!

I seem to remember us being a mid table team, in an old small stadium.

We’re now regularly in the top 4, we’ve been to two finals including champions league (fine margins if we’d won one).

We have one of the most successful managers in charge. We’re making changes behind the scenes.

We are investing in the squad (60m on ndembele, richy) - the recruitment had been bad but we’ve made changes to that area too.

The returns from the stadium will have only just started coming.

How do you not see progress.

Sure the nineties were pretty terrible, but in the eighties, we finished fourth or higher five times and won three trophies. We also won the FA cup at the beginning of the nineties - back when it was still a massive trophy. It's not like ENIC took over a club of perpetual no-hopers that had found its natural level. We were widely considered massive underachievers and even won a couple of trophies in the preceding decade.

I'm also unsure about describing us as top-four regulars "now". If we fail to reach the top four this season, that will mean we will have finished in the top four only once in the last five seasons. We can hardly be described as regulars at something if we are failing to accomplish it four times out of five. A lot will depend on how we finish this season.

As things stand, we were top four regulars during Pochettino's time at the club but we haven't been since he was sacked. And we definitely weren't before Pochettino- In the thirteen seasons prior to his appointment we finished in the top four only twice. In fact since 2001, the year ENIC took over the club, we have finished fourth or higher just seven times.
 
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Dennism

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All I’m hearing is more profit and more properties!
The most important thing is whether these projects benefit Tottenham and the people who live there. If it does it is alright with me. A lot of people seem to forget that Spurs are not some tacky brand like Manchester United. They are a proper football club intrinsically linked to their community and that is how it must stay.
 

Tony-Bish

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and all that with one of the greatest strikers of the modern era, who cost nothing. Funny that!!!!

Not a proper supporter if you don’t support ENIC/Levy

What an absolute clown you are
You're entitled to see things the way you do, I won't call you a clown for that..

So I guess we'll just ignore all the improvements that are being made and have been made. And yeah, I actually do support the way ENIC/Levy are developing the club.

The thing is, we're not the only club trying to win things and we're not going to do it the way city and Chelsea are, perhaps accept that the only way Spurs will is sustainably, and Levy has said multiple times that these investments go back into the club, which we've seen with our spending (poorly).

It looks to me like Levy wants us to win things because then the club would be more valuable and worth more when he does sell, thankfully it's not run by clowns who want them to plunge the club into debt.

I'm curious though, what do you want from them? They have installed two top managers recently, they've reworked the scouting, built an incredible stadium and training facilities, increased transfer spend and wages.

What do you actually want.
 
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Beezle

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I read the first few lines and thought to myself ‘I bet he plans to build a fucking hotel or something’.

Once again, the football comes second to all the other nonsense. We may as well all support an investment bank ffs.

it’s never about the football. Never.
Uhhhh that was always in the plan. Look at the original Populous renderings there are two towers next to the stadium.
 

southlondonyiddo

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You're entitled to see things the way you do, I won't call you a clown for that..

So I guess we'll just ignore all the improvements that are being made and have been made. And yeah, I actually do support the way ENIC/Levy are developing the club.

The thing is, we're not the only club trying to win things and we're not going to do it the way city and Chelsea are, perhaps accept that the only way Spurs will is sustainably, and Levy has said multiple times that these investments go back into the club, which we've seen with our spending (poorly).

It looks to me like Levy wants us to win things because then the club would be more valuable and worth more when he does sell, thankfully it's not run by clowns who want them to plunge the club into debt.

I'm curious though, what do you want from them? They have instilled two top managers recently, they've reworked the scouting, built an incredible stadium and training facilities, increased transfer spend and wages.

What do you actually want.
Ambition on the football pitch. Glory. To Dare is to Do

Levy does and will always do just enough - sound business decisions at the expense of ‘possibly’ actually winning something or giving us a much greater chance of actually winning something

It happens year in, year out. Window after window after window
 

FloridaSpur

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Everything you say is true, but it’s also true that spending £200 million on the first team over the course of time it takes to build further revenue streams might result in us having a better team, maybe even winning a competition.

Enic will make plenty of profit when they sell the club, hotel or not.

What's wrong with that?

It would make a change from what happened to the likes of Derby, Bolton, Wigan, Portsmouth, Leeds, Sunderland and the likes.
 

CantSmileWithoutYou

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The ‘fans’ calling for Enic and Levy out are not actually supporters. It’s not support. These people would see this club gain short term success and then crash and burn, at which point they’d probably blame the club for being so sh*t and go and ‘support’ our brothers down the road who were patient.

Right, helmet on, fire away. Much love
How very presumptuous and condescending.
 

FloridaSpur

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Ambition on the football pitch. Glory. To Dare is to Do

Levy does and will always do just enough - sound business decisions at the expense of ‘possibly’ actually winning something or giving us a much greater chance of actually winning something

It happens year in, year out. Window after window after window

Chelsea have spent 600 million on seventeen players and 300 million in the January transfer window.

That is just the transfer fee, not wages that would be a minimum of around 2.5 million a week, A WEEK.

Read Levy's statement he made today.

Tell me he doesn't make any sense?
 

FloridaSpur

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He really doesn’t ever give confidence of winning trophies. Every time he speaks it’s about we don’t have the money others do.

I’d like to of heard him say something on the lines of we made mistakes with both players we signed and
he players we didn’t let go. In the future we are going to have clear strategy of how we will win. However, this will involve tough decisions that fans might not like at the time. However, it will be the best decision for the longer term ambition.


He has, this morning.
 
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