Daniel Levy's message

[nidge]

I'm interested to know where we will be playing for that season away from the lane... that's really what will upset people.

Sadly it'll be a necessary evil to get the stadium built.

 

[Blockbuster]

Sadly it'll be a necessary evil to get the stadium built.

This is true, but I'd hope its 'within London' a move to MK would be awful...

 

[nidge]

This is true, but I'd hope its 'within London' a move to MK would be awful...

From a selfish point of view MK would make it easier for me to get to games but I agree that in an ideal world we would stay within London. The problem is I am not sure any grounds with enough capacity in London would be willing to accommodate us for 1 or maybe 2 seasons.

 

[thfc1989]

I'm interested to know where we will be playing for that season away from the lane... that's really what will upset people.

As long as there is an amnesty on Season Tickets then I don't think anyone complaining about MK has a leg to stand on. It is a necessary inconvenience for being built an (hopefully) excellent new stadium.

 

[mill]

For those who want Levy out, what are you hoping his replacement is? A billionaire oil sheikh who still has to comply with FFP?

Levy has his faults but he's taken a mediocre brand and turned it into the closest challengers to the historic big clubs in England. He clearly has the club's best interests at heart and I think his bonus of half a million is on the low side as opposed to being outrageously high.

We're now a regular top 5 side with European football year in year out, something most of us would've been ecstatic with 10 years ago, yet one season in the champions league has given the majority unrealistic expectations. The same can be applied to fans views on players, a couple of bad games and the usual viotrol and "championship standard" type quotes come out. Looks like it's Mason this year since everyone is now sucking off Rose.

Can you imagine some of these knee jerk fans being managers at their workplace? They'd be sacking employees left right and centre for one bad day at the office.

Most only hate Levy because they think they're supposed to as they're too uneducated to objectively look at how we've done as a club over the past 5 years.

Maybe I've misunderstood your post but we are one of the historic big clubs in England, only non league team to win the FA Cup, first post war double, first English team to win a European trophy, as pointed out in another thread only us and Utd have won a trophy every decade since the 50's (we've yet to this decade), we've in the past broke the British transfer record to sign players, we used to get crowds around 60-70000, look at England's top scorers list, greaves and Lineker both played for us and I'm sure there's plenty more examples of our rich history even if the present isn't so great.

You seem to suggesting the club's above us are the historic big clubs, city and Chelsea? Just lol

 

[Borks]

Maybe I've misunderstood your post but we are one of the historic big clubs in England, only non league team to win the FA Cup, first post war double, first English team to win a European trophy, as pointed out in another thread only us and Utd have won a trophy every decade since the 50's (we've yet to this decade), we've in the past broke the British transfer record to sign players, we used to get crowds around 60-70000, look at England's top scorers list, greaves and Lineker both played for us and I'm sure there's plenty more examples of our rich history even if the present isn't so great.

You seem to suggesting the club's above us are the historic big clubs, city and Chelsea? Just lol

I get your point but I'm talking about financial powerhouses as opposed to teams who have won trophies 50 years ago. If you compare us to the financially rich clubs 10-15 years ago and then look at how far behind we are now, I don't see how anyone can be upset with Levy?

 

[mill]

I get your point but I'm talking about financial powerhouses as opposed to teams who have won trophies 50 years ago. If you compare us to the financially rich clubs 10-15 years ago and then look at how far behind we are now, I don't see how anyone can be upset with Levy?

Why not say financial powerhouses instead of historic big clubs? 2 massively different things don't you think?

 

[Borks]

Why not say financial powerhouses instead of historic big clubs? 2 massively different things don't you think?

I was at work on my phone and didn't phrase something ideally, not the end of the world is it?

 

[mill]

I was at work on my phone and didn't phrase something ideally, not the end of the world is it?

No of course not but the connotations of the 2 are completely different that's all

 

[Mullers]

Yeah, the fact we've had opportunities shows we've been competitive, above the level our finances should have us. What the hell could Levy do about the mess Harry made of the semi-final against Pompey? What could Levy do about our penalties against United?

Being competitive above the level of finances is something other clubs have done as well, it's not really much to brag about.

Levy employed Harry right? Either he takes part of the responsibility over what goes on the pitch or he doesn't. Which means he can't get credit over what goes on the pitch if our failures are nothing to do with him.

 

[Mullers]

Of course, I forgot the rest of the clubs in the top flight have been filling their trophy cabinets while we've only been winning that 1 trophy

We've won as much as Swansea, Blackburn and a number of other clubs.

Still, they've seen us make it to 4 League Cup finals, and what other club has done that?

Don't know and don't care.
We've made 4 league cups and lost 3 of them, being a loser isn't something to brag about, it belongs in the same bragging bracket has having the best training ground in the world.

And to be that bit more pedantic, ENIC have only been in full control for 12 years, because they didn't buy up remaining shares until 2003.

I see, so it wasn't Levy who employed Hoddle as Manager it was Chirpy just disguised as Levy!

 

[Mullers]

Oh come on, that's just weak. It's Levy's fault that the unbelievably loved Sherwood took us out of 3 cup competitions in 4 games last season? It's Levy's fault that Redknapp & AVB couldn't get results against the teams you mentioned? Bloody hell, I know the man has his detractors, but I never realised he selected the team & gave out the instructions to the players

Who employed the unbelievably loved Sherwood? Who employed Redknapp and AVB?

You can't have it both ways, you can't give credit to Levy for us being in 4 league cup finals and then say failures on the pitch aren't down to him.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Going forward, we have restructured the footballing side of the Club to ensure our sporting philosophy is adhered to – we need to ensure that we have a balance of experienced and home grown players, playing attacking, entertaining football our fans love to watch. Perhaps we had lost our way a little bit in this respect, so this will be our guiding principle as we embark on the summer transfer window.

He needs to stop saying this silly bullshit every year.

If I want entertainment I'll go to the circus and watch a fucking clown stick his head in a lions mouth. I want our sporting philosophy to be to work hard, be smart and to win.

 

[Mullers]

In respect of driving higher revenues in order to enable greater investment in players, it is clearly evident that we need a ‘game changer’ to lift this Club to the next level - namely an increased capacity stadium.

Currently we are competing for Champions League qualification whilst driving revenue in the smallest stadium of the top six clubs in the Premier League. The new stadium is, therefore, critical.

I hope someone can answer these questions.
How will the stadium allow us to go to the next level, that next level being champions league?
When we will get to the next level?
It's more critical that you choose the right head coach, that is the most important investment you can make.

 

[Donki]

I hope someone can answer these questions.
How will the stadium allow us to go to the next level, that next level being champions league?
When we will get to the next level?
It's more critical that you choose the right head coach, that is the most important investment you can make.

In an answer to how.... higher wages to attract top talent.

In an answer to when.... when we get the right balance ot talant and managment.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I hope someone can answer these questions.
How will the stadium allow us to go to the next level, that next level being champions league?
When we will get to the next level?
It's more critical that you choose the right head coach, that is the most important investment you can make.

So many people are quoting my original post- I am starting to feel like Levy and people are directing their anger at me.

It wasn't my fault, OK Mullers.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I hope someone can answer these questions.
How will the stadium allow us to go to the next level, that next level being champions league?
When we will get to the next level?
It's more critical that you choose the right head coach, that is the most important investment you can make.

To boil it down to it's basic equation, FFP dictates that clubs spend more in line with what they earn through normal economic means and limits the amount owners can "gift".

Having bigger legitimate revenue streams allows a club to spend more and what clubs spend more on is transfer fees and, more importantly (because this is also wired into the FFP legislation) wages.

 

[ginola99]

To boil it down to it's basic equation, FFP dictates that clubs spend more in line with what they earn through normal economic means and limits the amount owners can "gift".

Having bigger legitimate revenue streams allows a club to spend more and what clubs spend more on is transfer fees and, more importantly (because this is also wired into the FFP legislation) wages.

Exactly. Also there is no cap on infrastructure projects such as capacity increase, it's just annual spend so transfer fees, Agents' fees, players' wages, general running costs etc etc

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

To boil it down to it's basic equation, FFP dictates that clubs spend more in line with what they earn through normal economic means and limits the amount owners can "gift".

Having bigger legitimate revenue streams allows a club to spend more and what clubs spend more on is transfer fees and, more importantly (because this is also wired into the FFP legislation) wages.

Although it looks like FFP might be 'relaxed' now that PSG have been in Platini's ear. So the hill we've got to climb to catch up is looking increasingly like a travelator.

 

[Mullers]

In an answer to how.... higher wages to attract top talent.

In an answer to when.... when we get the right balance ot talant and managment.

According to this our wage bill is 100.4m and Arsenal's is 166.4m.
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/english-premier-league-wage-bills-club-by-club/
Arsenal have 4 players on over 100,000 a week
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/arsenal-player-salaries/
if the following link is to be believed we have 3 players on over 100,000, so we are already capable of paying high wages.
http://www.celebritiesmoney.com/tot...-contracts-english-competitive-football-team/