Danny Rose

[am_yisrael_chai]

Not arguing that we can't spend money. I think we will. But the stadium is a huge risk £800m is 4 times the amount liverpool owed when they were seized by the banks in 2012. Their turnover was £206m (that year) our last accounts had us at £209.8m.
Don't think we can't do a leeds. We are walking a tightrope.

Just to give you a quick insight on stadium economics. Although comprising only 10% of the capacity the premium seats and boxes account for 65-75% of total receipts. Our premium seats are 60-70% sold already on 3-10 year contracts. The debt we've raised isn't unsecured like Liverpool's it is essentially just a securitisation of future gate receipts, most of which are already in the bag. Also as I've said elsewhere I think the £800m figure is nonsense, I can't find anyone in the construction industry who can come anywhere close to that figure. It might be the total project cost but that includes a hotel and hundreds of houses, all of which should be self financing or they shouldn't be built. My guess is the stadium cost is £450m in line with the debt we've syndicated.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

£450m for the stadium and £400m for the rest of the development. It also includes the cost of buying the land, architects fees etc... we have paid some, £200m is due in december i believe (from the last set of accounts).

The rest of the project is non-football related and presumably only being built because it will make sense commercially.

 

[mattdefoe]

The way he talks about Manchester city makes me sick. There bank rolled and owned by the super rich that's why they have all of these "superb signings " they have finished below us for two straight years by doing this. It's everything that's wrong with football

 

[Lilbaz]

Just to give you a quick insight on stadium economics. Although comprising only 10% of the capacity the premium seats and boxes account for 65-75% of total receipts. Our premium seats are 60-70% sold already on 3-10 year contracts. The debt we've raised isn't unsecured like Liverpool's it is essentially just a securitisation of future gate receipts, most of which are already in the bag. Also as I've said elsewhere I think the £800m figure is nonsense, I can't find anyone in the construction industry who can come anywhere close to that figure. It might be the total project cost but that includes a hotel and hundreds of houses, all of which should be self financing or they shouldn't be built. My guess is the stadium cost is £450m in line with the debt we've syndicated.

It's really not the thread for this.

 

[bat-chain]

Respect is a two way street and people should have taken that into consideration when they were abusing him a couple of years ago.

I completely agree with this but by the same token, what about fans who have never abused him and stood up for him when he was struggling? If it's a two way street do they have a right to give him both barrels?

 

[whitesocks]

OK, we were (nearly) all wrong about Rose in 2014 as it turned out, and Rose can rightfully privately take great pleasure in stuffing our opinions down our throats. If that helps motivate him then great.

But our negative opinions were well founded, and if he wants to publicly rake over old coals then perhaps he should also review his poor defensive attitude back in 2014 and apologise to us, instead of taking it personally.

 

[ohtottenham!]

The way he talks about Manchester city makes me sick. There bank rolled and owned by the super rich that's why they have all of these "superb signings " they have finished below us for two straight years by doing this. It's everything that's wrong with football

Those are the realities though. Oil money has turned football on its head. It's been dictating successes in the game. That's the truth. Can't blame a footballer for acknowledging that reality, and wanting success in their own career, professional and financial!

 

[piedpiper]

I have no problem with Danny Rose's comments or ambition to be honest. The club instigated this by selling the best Rb to a league rival.... I dont blame any player wanting to leave to be honest. It hurts know doubt but we are not ambitious enough as a club.. The last 2 seasons have showed we can win the title.

I really expected the club to invest in that little bit of extra quality to give this team every chance of winning/competing for the title.

You all in for a rude shock.... After Rose leaves it's Eriksen, Alli and Dier next who will want out.

Players dont get turned on as so many on here do with our marvelous financial model. Players want to win titles, medals. Etc.

He has been the subject of so much abuse in here. Respect is a two way street. Many have been so abusive to him. Just look at the abuse Dier receives now from some posters.

His comments, if true, is badly timed a day or two before the season starts...He wants out for sure. We implied we are a selling club when we let Walker go. This was to be expected. This

 

[Classof17]

What a troll of a transfer window!

Wow having read more quotes this is amazing. Never would have expected this from Danny, he sounded so appreciative not so long ago.

 

[james Stock]

I have no problem with Danny Rose's comments or ambition to be honest. The club instigated this by selling the best Rb to a league rival.... I dont blame any player wanting to leave to be honest. It hurts know doubt but we are not ambitious enough as a club.. The last 2 seasons have showed we can win the title.

I really expected the club to invest in that little bit of extra quality to give this team every chance of winning/competing for the title.

You all in for a rude shock.... After Rose leaves it's Eriksen, Alli and Dier next who will want out.

Players dont get turned on as so many on here do with our marvelous financial model. Players want to win titles, medals. Etc.

He has been the subject of so much abuse in here. Respect is a two way street. Many have been so abusive to him. Just look at the abuse Dier receives now from some posters.

His comments, if true, is badly timed a day or two before the season starts...He wants out for sure. We implied we are a selling club when we let Walker go. This was to be expected. This

Come on, even Greaves copped stick from supporters, every player has detractors. Rose gets well compensated for any grief he receives. Part of Walkers problem obviously related to Trippier being preferred at times. Poch recently stated that Walkers best days are behind him, obviously that remains to be seen, but Poch's assessment is based on constant examination of Walker's recovery and his ability to play two games per week.

Before season ended Poch indicated that we would only sell players we were happy to let go. Walker clearly fell in that category.

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

He's been around the block. He's 27. Not a young kid like Kane or Alli. I don't blame him for speaking his mind. He was one half of the best wing back pairings in the PL. I don't like it as a Spurs fan, but understand where he's coming from. If he was a real mercenary, he'd have done a Berbatov a while back.

No he wouldn't. He was fighting for his career with Sunderland and battling various injuries.

He would be somewhere like Crystal Palace right now if Poch hadn't have revitalized his career.

If we sell Rose and Walker within the same window, I won't be in a hurry to get to any games this coming season.

If the chairman, owners and players don't care.... why should the fans?

 

[Classof17]

Amazing how we've won more points than any other team in the league over the past two seasons and still find a way to make ourselves the laughing stock of our rivals.

Spursy retained

 

[glacierSpurs]

Understandable frustration from him, but some unwise responses from him too.. FFS does him and Walker believe they stood any chance to be in the Three Lions team at all without Spurs?! Seriously how arrogant players of this sport has become! Getting what he is worth? This world is aleady going crazy shit over those billions paid to such narcissistic people.. I can tell him who should be getting what they are worth in the list of jobs, but football wont even make it in my list, Mr Danny Rose.

And, he was injured for so long, he earns no right to comment on who Spurs are signing, whether the need to google or not! Just shows his ignorance! Pissed.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I blame the retarded Spurs fans on this very site who criticised him back in the day.

He didn't deserve it then and I can understand why he would say a big fu to those people.

I still read now that before Poch he was rubbish, Rose was a very good fb and developed into a World class fb.

Everything he said in that interview is fair enough.

 

[ohtottenham!]

No he wouldn't. He was fighting for his career with Sunderland and battling various injuries.

He would be somewhere like Crystal Palace right now if Poch hadn't have revitalized his career.

If we sell Rose and Walker within the same window, I won't be in a hurry to get to any games this coming season.

If the chairman, owners and players don't care.... why should the fans?

No, think he knows he owes Poch. He's also gone a hell of a way in repaying Poch. He's the best LB in the PL imo, and he's still a Spurs player. Great coaches coach the best out of players, they don't expect a lifetime of loyalty out of them! Agree with your last couple of sentences, but that's a Levy call.

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

I blame the retarded Spurs fans on this very site who criticised him back in the day.

He didn't deserve it then and I can understand why he would say a big fu to those people.

I still read now that before Poch he was rubbish, Rose was a very good fb and developed into a World class fb.

Everything he said in that interview is fair enough.

But why has he come out with all this now?

Starting to think the sale of Walker and no signings was the tipping point.

 

[Bobbins]

Those are the realities though. Oil money has turned football on its head. It's been dictating successes in the game. That's the truth. Can't blame a footballer for acknowledging that reality, and wanting success in their own career, professional and financial!

You can be pretty unhappy with him for pulling down the pants of the Oil Sheiks and trying to furiously suck them off as though they've actually achieved something, though.

There is nothing to respect or admire about Manchester City, nothing. He's simply jealous they didn't take him at the same time they came in for Walker, and now he's hoping Jose will.

 

[ohtottenham!]

But why has he come out with all this now?

Starting to think the sale of Walker and no signings was the tipping point.

Isn't that what he was basically expressing in the article?

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

Have we got any young youth players who play in his position?

Davies & Youth, Trippier & KWP.

Be lucky to qualify for the Europa with that.

 

[ButchCassidy]

But why has he come out with all this now?

Starting to think the sale of Walker and no signings was the tipping point.

I think he was sold a very specific vision for the club, where we would continue to build and improve every year, and he's starting to get worried that might not be happening just like the rest of us are. It may be a bad time and place for him to express it, but he hasn't said anything that hasn't been repeated time and time again on this forum. I'm also not ruling out that he may have been asked to say some of those things by someone inside the club as well, to attempt to be a bit of a wake-up call for the bald man at the top or those around him.