Dele Alli at Everton

[tubbygold]

We probably held on to Eriksen and now Alli to long. If you look at Leicester they sell their players at a premium reinvest the money and seem to be no worse off. Of course there would have been uproar if we did sell them. We perceive ourselves as a big club but we probably need to sell a big player to freshen up the squad every couple of years.

I'll agree with you on Eriksen, but not Dele. He's a proven world class talent, homegrown, and he's still only 24.

I think a loan would be great, but Levy doesn't seem willing.

 

[midge]

Dont think a loan for Dele would do much for his future at Spurs.

Tanguy was given the same treatment as Dele and maybe much worse. He face up to the challenge is now a much better player performing consistently.

Jose must not have been seeing the same from Dele when given the same treatment. That is why he is continuing to ignore Dele . It is up to Dele to decide if he wants to over come this and get into the team.

A loan for Dele would be an escape for Dele but after he comes back from the loan, it will be back to status quo.

Think we should either sell and reinvest or keep and hope Dele really works hard and gets back into the team

 

[glacierSpurs]

The more this saga goes, the more it just goes to show Mourinho was correct about him all along. Dele has been given chances since Mourinho came in, but I just feel he has not put in the effort at all. And why am I so certain he has not is because there is this Tanguy Ndombele who has against all odds become the player Mourinho is starting to trust in the team now. The rest was just history.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Dele has to work harder than anyone else to deserve a chance, given the fact that his name was penned in for almost every game last season when Jose took the helm.

If he doesn’t want to work for it and feels he deserves the spot, then he can’t be around this core team of players we have. You can never have a group work ethic with individuals being allowed to slack off. Favouritism will become a poison so Jose is 110% justified in his treatment of Dele. He has to show the team that you’ll get your chance but you’ll have to work for it, and they won’t come around often because your peers are giving 110%.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Make it a loan with option to buy for 50mil.

or take 50mil now and get sabitzer

 

[topper]

Further snippet from Dragon1 on COYS a few hours ago:
It will take massive money to sell dele the window I’m talking 70 million plus

Daniel will have to make a call in march or April , dele or Jose The situation is untenable

Daniel knows how hard it is to bring top talent especially British talent , he is not letting dele go in a hurry For that sole reason

 

[DannyNZ]

if Levy can get 50m for Dele then that would rank as the best bit of business he has ever pulled off. PSG would have to be barking mad to shell that sort of sum for a punt on Dele.

 

[Yid121]

Further snippet from Dragon1 on COYS a few hours ago:
It will take massive money to sell dele the window I’m talking 70 million plus

Daniel will have to make a call in march or April , dele or Jose The situation is untenable

Daniel knows how hard it is to bring top talent especially British talent , he is not letting dele go in a hurry For that sole reason

£70m because he's British?! Wow. Sell him!!!!!

 

[Yid121]

Make it a loan with option to buy for 50mil.

They would never pay £50m for him after the loan

 

[Finchyid]

Further snippet from Dragon1 on COYS a few hours ago:
It will take massive money to sell dele the window I’m talking 70 million plus

Daniel will have to make a call in march or April , dele or Jose The situation is untenable

Daniel knows how hard it is to bring top talent especially British talent , he is not letting dele go in a hurry For that sole reason

Well that’s a no brainer...if you want to win trophies.

 

[spursfan77]

I've probably said this before but IMHO a season loan abroad would benefit everyone, I think Dele needs to go somewhere that gets him drilled in the tactical and technical side of his game, he needs to mature and get out of his comfort zone not just as a footballer but as a person. He's only 24 but comes across as less mature than that, his rise through football was pretty quick and I think a year of new surroundings would do him and Spurs good in the long run.

My reasons against it are should we get unlucky with a Covid situation, the PL may postpone our fixtures but I'm not sure the other competitions will be so lenient plus Jose seems like he'd play the fixture (if only to make a point to the PL) if we were able to name a 14 man squad.

Jose couldn't have spelt it out much clearer what Dele has to do than he did in his praise for Tanguy at the weekend, if Dele isn't listening then sadly he needs to move on much as I'd hate to see it but a HG international shouldn't be getting sold on the cheap.

But he’s not going to get that in the french league and with Poch again.

I agree Mourinho’s words about Ndombele were definitely for Dele’s benefit. Unfortunately with Dele, he looks like he’s going to prove those who’ve doubted him for years, correct.

 

[spursfan77]

Further snippet from Dragon1 on COYS a few hours ago:
It will take massive money to sell dele the window I’m talking 70 million plus

Daniel will have to make a call in march or April , dele or Jose The situation is untenable

Daniel knows how hard it is to bring top talent especially British talent , he is not letting dele go in a hurry For that sole reason

Hard or expensive? Definitely the latter.

It’s why selling players like him or winks is quite a risk. You lose the HG player and have to replace him with another of equal ability. Not easy or cheap.

 

[Finchyid]

I'll agree with you on Eriksen, but not Dele. He's a proven world class talent, homegrown, and he's still only 24.

I think a loan would be great, but Levy doesn't seem willing.

Pointless having talent if you don’t use it. It’s not only Jose that has an issue with Dele, Southgate does too, Dele is miles away from England squad. Won’t go to Euros. IMO this is down to the player to fix.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Hard or expensive? Definitely the latter.

It’s why selling players like him or winks is quite a risk. You lose the HG player and have to replace him with another of equal ability. Not easy or cheap.

not that hard nor expensive if we sign young talents 3-4 years in advance. it looks hard and expensive now as we lost a generation of talents when poch was in charge. luckily we still have parrott, skipp, white, cirkin, scarlett, devine etc to come through
also there has been bargains for HG talents in the market but we f**ked up most of them (maddison, grealish)

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

I'll agree with you on Eriksen, but not Dele. He's a proven world class talent, homegrown, and he's still only 24.

I think a loan would be great, but Levy doesn't seem willing.

“proven world class talent?”

Slight exaggeration me thinks?

 

['O Zio]

I think Dele just has a far lower ceiling than once thought. These things happen, just a shame it took us almost running down his value entirely before the idea of selling was entertained

I also think that even if he does have a high ceiling, he's shown over the past maybe 3 years (long before Jose) that he doesn't necessarily have the attitude to achieve it. Now that he's out of favour with the manager too, he's never going to develop of he's not playing.

Ive heard some people say that Jose will be gone in a couple of years so Alli could kick on then under a new manager but like o say his decline started long before Jose so Im not confident of that.

 

['O Zio]

I'll agree with you on Eriksen, but not Dele. He's a proven world class talent, homegrown, and he's still only 24.

I think a loan would be great, but Levy doesn't seem willing.

Alli had 2 seasons where he surprised everyone, but that was a long time ago and he hasn't looked top 6 class let alone world class in years.

 

[spursfan77]

not that hard nor expensive if we sign young talents 3-4 years in advance. it looks hard and expensive now as we lost a generation of talents when poch was in charge. luckily we still have parrott, skipp, white, cirkin, scarlett, devine etc to come through
also there has been bargains for HG talents in the market but we f**ked up most of them (maddison, grealish)

Very true. I guess if the last summer hadn’t happened during the financial restraints of the pandemic we might of pushed the button on Eze, for example, after tracking him for so long.

 

[Yid121]

If we're so worried about the English thing, bit of a farce we let KWP go and passed up Watkins or Grealish

 

[E17yid]

Will be sad to see him go but sounds like the situation is beyond repair with him and Mourinho. Will be interesting to hear Ali’s account when he writes a book in the coming years.