Dele Alli at Everton

[JSpurs1]

Might have been said on here or on Twitter but really hope he gets a chance on the pitch next season. Whether at Everton or elsewhere, I look at a side like Blackpool that has allowed Barkley to get constant run and get back into form. Maybe someone in the championship or a newly promoted side could give him a chance. At this point, just get him playing week in/out and let him express himself.

Biggest problem is even as I saw with Barkley, the position Dele excelled in has been far more non-existent in modern day sides.

I don’t think opportunity will be the issue - he needs to want to play.

 

[aliyid]

Biggest problem is even as I saw with Barkley, the position Dele excelled in has been far more non-existent in modern day sides.

It's one of those positions that works in a good attacking team but as soon as you try it in a mid-table side it becomes a burden or luxury.

His role is very similar to say a Foden at City or Havertz at Arsenal. What he adds is element of unpredictability and suggestion of chaos. It's been covered many times on here but his biggest problem was that he tried to become a more complete midfielder. Higher levels of consistency and ball retention took away the ability he had for trying something new, ghosting into space off the ball or playing extravagant flicks that the defenders haven't covered. Big problem for him is that big clubs won't try to sign him so he now has to double down on.

Will always be a big part of one of my favourite periods as a Spurs fan on and off the pitch

 

[Marty]

It's one of those positions that works in a good attacking team but as soon as you try it in a mid-table side it becomes a burden or luxury.

His role is very similar to say a Foden at City or Havertz at Arsenal. What he adds is element of unpredictability and suggestion of chaos. It's been covered many times on here but his biggest problem was that he tried to become a more complete midfielder. Higher levels of consistency and ball retention took away the ability he had for trying something new, ghosting into space off the ball or playing extravagant flicks that the defenders haven't covered. Big problem for him is that big clubs won't try to sign him so he now has to double down on.

Will always be a big part of one of my favourite periods as a Spurs fan on and off the pitch

He also tried to become a more complete player while going from Dembele/Dier or Dembele/Wanyama behind him to having Winks and Sissoko in those positions. The foundation that allowed him to play was ripped away due to the injury troubles of those aforementioned players.

 

[Styopa]

He also tried to become a more complete player while going from Dembele/Dier or Dembele/Wanyama behind him to having Winks and Sissoko in those positions. The foundation that allowed him to play was ripped away due to the injury troubles of those aforementioned players.

Yeah, I think Dele’s decline in form was pretty much in line with the decline of the team in general.

I think the difference was people expected him to come back from that because he was still young. But he didn’t, for various reasons. In fact things got worse.

Maybe things would have worked out differently if the team had held together and not gone into free fall.

 

[bubble07]

So dele can't now make 20 games for Everton. Does that mean he went for nothing? I guess wages were saved

 

[Trix]

So dele can't now make 20 games for Everton. Does that mean he went for nothing? I guess wages were saved

Pretty much yeah.

I still think there's more to come from Dele, from what I hear he is determined to get back to playing and playing well and has made huge strides in his personal life to turn things around, both mentally and physically. I wouldn't rule out him playing at the very top again if he can get back that determination he had as a teenager.

 

[superted4]

Pretty much yeah.

I still think there's more to come from Dele, from what I hear he is determined to get back to playing and playing well and has made huge strides in his personal life to turn things around, both mentally and physically. I wouldn't rule out him playing at the very top again if he can get back that determination he had as a teenager.

would be great to see!

 

[Trix]

He also tried to become a more complete player while going from Dembele/Dier or Dembele/Wanyama behind him to having Winks and Sissoko in those positions. The foundation that allowed him to play was ripped away due to the injury troubles of those aforementioned players.

More to it than that imo. Off the pitch stuff started taking more and more of his time and he just wasn't putting in the same effort or giving football the same attention he once was. He lost focus on what was truly important and his game suffered for it. Maintaining that focus is key to a successful career and unfortunately he lost it. Lets hope he's got that back now like I'm being told he has.

 

[newbie]

More to it than that imo. Off the pitch stuff started taking more and more of his time and he just wasn't putting in the same effort or giving football the same attention he once was. He lost focus on what was truly important and his game suffered for it. Maintaining that focus is key to a successful career and unfortunately he lost it. Lets hope he's got that back now like I'm being told he has.

becoming a call of duty ambassador, marketing dream I always thought he was why he lost focus. To many off field distractions, pretty sure Jose was alluding to the same thing.

 

[bubble07]

Pretty much yeah.

I still think there's more to come from Dele, from what I hear he is determined to get back to playing and playing well and has made huge strides in his personal life to turn things around, both mentally and physically. I wouldn't rule out him playing at the very top again if he can get back that determination he had as a teenager.

I just can't see his style of play suited to the modern game anymore. Can't find another player similar to him which can't be a good thing

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

He’s what was once called a luxury player, which at one time teams could afford to carry. Those days are long gone due to the quality and competitiveness of the Premier League.

 

[Spurspiria]

Rightly or wrongly, the impression I had at the time he joined us was that he was a tenacious central midfielder for MK Dons from the little I saw of him after we signed him. He had that edge with us as well and even when soon having in a more attacking role. Then barrage of constant criticism for gamesmanship also seemed to coincide with losing that edge. There was a period of constant bad publicity as well as other off the pitch matters. I hope he finds his way back.

 

[McFlash]

I hope what @Trix has heard is right because I'd love to see Dele enjoying football again.
He's had a rough time of things but if he can find his love for the game again, it'll help his mental wellbeing no end.

 

[oobaties]

Never wanted a player to succeed more than Dele. Would love it to be with us again but equally happy elsewhere.

In his prime, he was the epitome of a true spurs player. Character, skill, energy, class and style with just the right amount of swagger.

Wish him nothing but the best.

 

[nico97531]

He’s what was once called a luxury player, which at one time teams could afford to carry. Those days are long gone due to the quality and competitiveness of the Premier League.

I think it’s a little unfair to be calling him a luxury player, it’s not like he just stroll’s around when he’s not got the ball, he runs and pressed just like any other players in the team, you won’t survive in Poch’s team with no work rate.

Before he’s form fell off a cliff, he was the youngest English midfielder to have scored 50 premier league goals, and he did it in 153 games while also providing over 30 assists, that’s a 1 in 2 goals contribution, I wouldn’t think our team was carrying him at the time by any means.

if he can get back to anywhere near the level in his early years then I am sure there will be no shortage of clubs hoping to have the privilege of carrying him in their team.

 

[oobaties]

He’s what was once called a luxury player, which at one time teams could afford to carry. Those days are long gone due to the quality and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Luxury player my hole! He had everything, and worked his bollox off too.

Team transition and off field issues took their toll, but in the early days he was phenomenal.

 

[McFlash]

He’s what was once called a luxury player

Not for me he wasn't. A luxury player was all flair and no fight, great in attack and with the ball but useless at being part of the team.
Ginola could maybe be classed as a luxury player but I'd never put that label on Dele because he fought as hard without the ball as he did with it.

He was class until his mind got the better of him.

 

[fuzzylogic]

Biggest question is would any of you take him back in the summer on a free.

 

[dontcallme]

Biggest question is would any of you take him back in the summer on a free.

As much as I hope he turns his career and life around I think he needs to show he can perform first.

 

[oobaties]

Biggest question is would any of you take him back in the summer on a free.

If he’s over his injury and his head’s in the right place?

In a heartbeat!