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Rocksuperstar

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He's taken a lot of stick the last few weeks, in fact probably more stick now than he did when he first arrived, despite spending the last two years getting up to pace with the prem, reaching the peak of physical fitness and improving all areas of his game no end.

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There are myths that were true but are now less relevant, yet still haters drag them up over and over - he doesn't tackle, he can't defend, he doesn't run with the ball etc. - if you're using these as reasons to dislike the guy then you've not been watching him and, when you do notice him it's because he's made some minor cock up but you can happily ignore anything he does of any worth.

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His level of fitness means that as everyone else is tiring he can pick up the ball, spot a gap in the middle and surge through - he's been the supplier more times than he's given credit for, the creator as well on many occasions, yet those who dislike him will ignore that too. Equally, how can any of you honestly single out Didi and claim he's been worse than Jenas? Bentley? Bent? Bale? He hassles, he gets stuck in, he tracks a man like a randy dog after a weedy guys leg, not a balloon, and is our ONLY player to make the effort to actually RUN back to defend, when the rest trudge. Just because he can't pick the ball from the feet of a player with the precision of a sniper it doesn't mean he's shit either - he does make some very, very important tackles and challenges and is now more aware of situations that he can't win, so reverts to hassling more often if he's going to risk a booking from a tackle - reflected in only 2 bookings this season so far.

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He is far from the worst player ever to pull on a shirt too, you really don't want me to start listing some of the dross we've had play for us in my lifetime, you really don't - it would make you depressed to the point of suicide at some of the chumpties we've paid money to, but i guess that makes no difference to you Zoko-slaters as i expect you'd still hate him even if he donated his wages to you personally for the rest of his career.

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Aside from all this - Didier Zokora is a Spurs player. He wears a Lilywhite shirt and gives 110% where those around him give barely half.

Didi, play on fella, play on and we'll sing your song - f*ck the haters, they'll get bored of booing you eventually and go onto someone else.

Not got time for all that negative energy when it should be being poured into supporting the lads. In a time when we need persistance, in a time when we need some effort in midfield, we turn to you.

COYZOKO!

COYS!
 

Rocksuperstar

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ps - Spursking, wipe up anything you spill in this thread, right? :up:
 

Bing

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The reason why Zoko is so disliked is because he is a mediocre back up player who we have practically built our midfield around the past three years.

Okay you'll see lots of hyperbole "worst player ever", "absolutely shit" but the truth is he is just a poor to average footballer. If he was used in the role he should be used in i.e. squad player, nobody would have a problem with him.

Its the fact he is fvcking everpresent and the only player we have made no attempt to upgrade that fvcking drives me spare. I think with Didi its more frutration than hate and I am very very frustrated.
 

walworthyid

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The reason why Zoko is so disliked is because he is a mediocre back up player who we have practically built our midfield around the past three years.

Okay you'll see lots of hyperbole "worst player ever", "absolutely shit" but the truth is he is just a poor to average footballer. If he was used in the role he should be used in i.e. squad player, nobody would have a problem with him.

Its the fact he is fvcking everpresent and the only player we have made no attempt to upgrade that fvcking drives me spare. I think with Didi its more frutration than hate and I am very very frustrated.

No, I think you'll find that Jenas is the player we have built our midfield around for the last 3 years! Like the original poster said, how can people have all of this criticism for Zokora when there are others who are far, far worse? Jenas is one of them.

The fact that so many top managers and football people think he is a good player doesn't seem to matter to most people, but personally I know who I think is talking nonsense!
 

Rocksuperstar

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The reason why Zoko is so disliked is because he is a mediocre back up player who we have practically built our midfield around the past three years.

Okay you'll see lots of hyperbole "worst player ever", "absolutely shit" but the truth is he is just a poor to average footballer. If he was used in the role he should be used in i.e. squad player, nobody would have a problem with him.

Its the fact he is fvcking everpresent and the only player we have made no attempt to upgrade that fvcking drives me spare. I think with Didi its more frutration than hate and I am very very frustrated.
'scuse me, this thread is for Zoko fans, not more miserable neigh-sayers - off to the "we hate zoko" threads with you!

I'm having a wee Zoko party, so unless your wearing your "I love Zoko-pops" badge then no admittance! :shrug:
 

spurious1

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Who portrait is it that Zoko has tattooed on his left pec? Sorry OT but not a dig at him.
 

markie

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Liverpool have Gerrard, Alonso and Mascherano

Chelsea have Lampard, Ballack and Obi Mikel

Man utd have Carrick, Scholes and Fletcher

Arsenal have Fabregas and Denilson

Aston Villa have Barry .... (No one else from central mid to add)

This is to name just a few from their squads


These are all footballers with intelligence and creativity. Zokora has neither of these traits and whether or not he can "run about a lot" or not he will never help us to win games or help us progress in the league. He would be better deployed as a full back or as an impact player off the bench. Harry keeps him in the squad because he never gets injured and he runs a lot. Its not good enough.

I cant knock his athletisism or his attitude, I also cant knock the fact that he hasn't ever complained when dropped or anything like that but I think these traits are not enough to help us into the top half of the table and because of the fact that he has only set up 4 or 5 goals in his spurs career and never even looked like scoring for us just makes me wish he wasnt picked every game. Its a negative move to play him in central mid.
 

Rocksuperstar

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hatey blah blah blah

there's already threads for your type, go fill them up with whiney crap, this one's positivity and nothing else so take it outside, happy. :|
 

WhiteStripe

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About time we had a thread that wasn't aimed, like a snipers cross hair, at belitteling, demoralising and ridiculing Zokora.

If I look at Zokora without blinkers or bias, this is the assesment I give;

Zokora, when he arrived at Tottenham came with an media inflated rep, and an innacurate Job description. He was lost in translation in saying he would be our Patrick Vieira, the media grabbed hold of this, and the fact he was a "direct replacement" for Carrick and ran with it, brainwashing us spurs fans, myself included into believing that Zokora was something he is not.

Instantly, you could tell that Zokora was not a prolific goal scoring, assist making midfielder. He was a, for want of a better word, sheepdog. An ankle biter, an interceptor and a hassler. He was criticised for being all of this when he first came into the team. He was criticised for not being progressive enough, for breaking up the play and passing backwards of sideways (something players who have the correct job description such as Makalele don't get lambasted for). This was in fact what his job should have been. An interceptor, to break up play and retain possesion.

Yes, Zokora had his bad points, but most of which could be put down to his naivety in the premier league. He often let his man go after playing the ball. He often played risky, cross field balls to opponents. He often rolled around dramatically to win a free kick. These were all reasons to be frustrated, and I was certainly far from happy with this side of his game.

However, over the last 2 seasons, Zokora has improved drastically. This season he is almost unrecognisable to the player who first arrived on these shores. His awareness on the pitch is now better, picking up his man and sticking to him. His distribution has also drastically improved. I have noticed a greater level of completed pases, and not just the simple ones, progressive 30 yard passes are becomming more and more frequent. His workrate is second to none, he will give you 100% for 90 minutes and still have the energy to do a jig in front of Park lane at the end.

There are areas for improvement, don't get me wrong. I would like to see more of his bursting runs end in a chance created, I would like to see him make a few more tackles, and I would love to see him have the confidence to get in the box and have a shot. But like every player in the league, there is always an area of their game they can improve.

Instead of concentrating on his mistakes (that if you watch any player as closely as some of you seem to watch Zokora you would find just as many mistakes) how about we look at his good points, his improvement and his enthusiasm he brings to the team.

I for one can't think of a player we have who can cover CB, CM, DM, RM, RB, LB. He is an asset to the team, whether it be on the bench or on the pitch, he would be in my squad every single time!

Thank you and good night.
 

alextheyid

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i agree with all of you if possible...he works hard for he cause..is inconsistent..sometimes talismanic..and often unintelligent..
 

walworthyid

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Liverpool have Gerrard, Alonso and Mascherano

Chelsea have Lampard, Ballack and Obi Mikel

Man utd have Carrick, Scholes and Fletcher

Arsenal have Fabregas and Denilson

Aston Villa have Barry .... (No one else from central mid to add)

This is to name just a few from their squads


These are all footballers with intelligence and creativity. Zokora has neither of these traits and whether or not he can "run about a lot" or not he will never help us to win games or help us progress in the league. He would be better deployed as a full back or as an impact player off the bench. Harry keeps him in the squad because he never gets injured and he runs a lot. Its not good enough.

I cant knock his athletisism or his attitude, I also cant knock the fact that he hasn't ever complained when dropped or anything like that but I think these traits are not enough to help us into the top half of the table and because of the fact that he has only set up 4 or 5 goals in his spurs career and never even looked like scoring for us just makes me wish he wasnt picked every game. Its a negative move to play him in central mid.

Fair enough! But but what about the others in the team that are shit?No matter whether they are more gifted, just that they are not showing those gifts on the pitch!

Bent?
Bentley?
Bale?
Jenas?
Campbell (who is about as bad as it is possible to get)?
Hutton (awful when he has played this season, and certainly not better than Zokora at right back. Not even last season)?
Huddlestone (good on occasion but what about the 85% of games where he is anonymous)?
 

PT

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In our present line up with so many players going "missing in action", it's players like Zoko who detract from their core game plan and job role and pick up the baton in areas they shouldn't be.

I've heard him slated for shooting when clearly he's the last person that should be shooting but at least he's shooting.

The guy epitomises the character that I want in my Spurs team. Him and Berbatov the Idle but Sublime. Those two multiplied please.
 

walworthyid

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In our present line up with so many players going "missing in action", it's players like Zoko who detract from their core game plan and job role and pick up the baton in areas they shouldn't be.

I've heard him slated for shooting when clearly he's the last person that should be shooting but at least he's shooting.

The guy epitomises the character that I want in my Spurs team. Him and Berbatov the Idle but Sublime. Those two multiplied please.

You can be sure that if we exchanged the Bentley's, Jenas's etc and had 5 O'hara's and 5 Zokora's we would be in midtable!
 

PT

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You can be sure that if we exchanged the Bentley's, Jenas's etc and had 5 O'hara's and 5 Zokora's we would be in midtable!
heh that's an improvement then... :grin:
 

WhiteStripe

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'scuse me, this thread is for Zoko fans, not more miserable neigh-sayers - off to the "we hate zoko" threads with you!

I'm having a wee Zoko party, so unless your wearing your "I love Zoko-pops" badge then no admittance! :shrug:

Unless you own one of these....

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...then your not allowed in!! Got it? Good!!
 
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