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Dharmabum

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The Portuguese clubs are making a killing by all the huge "sell-on fees" they include in most, if not all, their players' contracts - and, amazingly, thus (so far) have managed to convince buying clubs to agree on their over-inflated prices.
I remember not long ago Spurs were after DMF Miguel Veloso (the next big thing out of Portugal) and were quoted a price around £20-22M A couple of years later his price dropped to £6M, when Genova bought him.

PS! The real name of his former club is Sporting club de Portugal and NOT Lisboa


Tottenham new signing says he's not happy at all with treatment




Eric Dier has taken a bit of a kicking in Portugal. It could have been worse had the press chosen to jump on comments coming out of Sporting Lisbon about the youngster, but it sounded like sour grapes and much of the criticism was ignored or put into the context it should have been.


Nevertheless the 20 year isn't happy at all with what went on and has spoken at length to Record in Portugal about the situation, being totally honest which is fair enough given the comments which came out of Sporting about him.


It's a real shame because Dier and Sporting were an unusual success story for a young English born footballer, that it ended badly hopefully won't cloud that too much.


On joining Tottenham, Dier explained to Record how happy it made him "Of course it was not an easy decision... I was at Sporting many years, but when the opportunity to sign for Tottenham came I had no doubts. I had to come, it was great for me. I spent the pre-season with this always in mind. I was at Sporting since I was 8 years old and it continues to be my second family."


Those feelings make what happened afterwards harder for Dier to take. Sporting issued a statement claiming that the player wanted to leave and had even rejected an offer to match the wages Tottenham were offering, Dier says that's rubbish "I disliked the statement. It's odd treat someone like that, who was at the club since the age of 8, who has always respected the Sporting and always tried to do everything well. Then, at the time of departure, I see a statement like that? Honestly, it's a little strange.


"People may think I'm lying, but the problem was never the money. The clauses that Sporting wanted to impose is what made negotiations difficult.


"They wanted to get unthinkable clauses. I am a defender and they wanted to put a clause on me of €45m with a salary that does not justify this price? No way... To me it makes no sense, but I respect my colleagues who accepted these conditions."


One of those colleagues is William Carvalho, who Dier says is the best player he's had the pleasure of sharing a dressing room with. The midfielder last season was on a wage of €100,000 a year as long as he met all his bonuses. His basic salary was €5,000 per month, despite him having a buyout clause of €45m, the odds are just too stacked in the favour of the club. Dier has an excellent point and it's about time someone from Sporting spoke out about it.


Since president Bruno de Carvalho took over at the club, Dier thinks he was poorly treated "In the last year and half I was severely mistreated. I will never hide it. For someone who was at the club since he was 8 years old and never had problems with anyone.


"I went to the Academy de Alcochete on Thursday morning to go get my things and say goodbye to everyone. The president was there, greeted me and said no word. Moved on. Not wished me good luck or anything, which is a bit strange... I've been 12 years at Sporting and leave without a word from the president? For me, it's weird."


Dier sounds like a young man with a good head on his shoulders. Despite what Sporting said after his departure, he was very highly thought of at the Portuguese club, for his attitude as well as ability. It's just a pity it all ended so badly.

An excellent interview from Record, getting to the truth of the huge buyout clauses at Sporting which is too often dismissed. Players deserve to be the masters of their destiny to at least a certain degree, especially if Sporting are determined to not pay wages which even go close to justifying the clauses
 

puppa_toni

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I respect the position Dier has taken on this because it's his career and his choice as to wether to sign a contract or not. But I also respect the position Sporting have taken in regards to contracts they are offering their young players! 5k is a realistic amount to pay a 19-20 year old player who hasn't achieved monumental success yet and is still developing as a player, and the 45 million clause just ensures they hold enough bargaining power when the big clubs inevitably come circling!
 

chinaman

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I think a 5000 Euro a month wages and 45 million release clause are exploitation to the extreme. They are still like the old Portuguese slave masters of the 19th century.
 

Spurs Lodge Kittens

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I'm surprised more players don't realise what Dier has highlighted here.

Someone like Carvalho you would assume would be eager to test himself abroad soon, but his 'buyout' clause is absurd. However - he didn't have to sign the contract in the first place. Yet he didn't even get massive wages?!?

Same
 

Bulletspur

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I'm surprised more players don't realise what Dier has highlighted here.

Someone like Carvalho you would assume would be eager to test himself abroad soon, but his 'buyout' clause is absurd. However - he didn't have to sign the contract in the first place. Yet he didn't even get massive wages?!?

Same
Doesn't say much about his Agent either
 

yido_number1

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I think a 5000 Euro a month wages and 45 million release clause are exploitation to the extreme. They are still like the old Portuguese slave masters of the 19th century.

That's a bit strong. I don't think you can liken anyone earning more than the average man a slave. Especially when you consider they are earning money to play and train to play football.

In reality a contract with no release clause would be worse than one with a £100m buy out as there is no exit point. I would be interested to see the stats for how many players that have been sold above and below their release clauses.
 

tototoner

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Club putting itself over the players for a change, in this time of agents and players getting absurd salaries when they have achieved fuck all is pretty refreshing.

Sporting only looking after themselves, in England it's the players that look after themselves.

It's all a game.
 

SlunkSoma

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Interesting read. Thought William Carvalho looked very good during the WC, shame he has such a huge buyout clause.
 

KingNothing

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Club putting itself over the players for a change, in this time of agents and players getting absurd salaries when they have achieved fuck all is pretty refreshing.

Sporting only looking after themselves, in England it's the players that look after themselves.

It's all a game.
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Hoowl

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In Spain, aren't the clauses insurance related? Is that relevant here?
 

double0

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From my personal encounters
The Portuguese have alway exploited situation looking back at their history (like other i may add)... but find they have a very arrogant self proclaimed attitude my nature.
 

ralvy

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Club putting itself over the players for a change, in this time of agents and players getting absurd salaries when they have achieved fuck all is pretty refreshing.

Sporting only looking after themselves, in England it's the players that look after themselves.

It's all a game.

Football clubs wouldn't make a dime if it wasn't because of their players, they're entitled to all those "absurd" salaries.
 

Reclamation Project

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I think the kid they just bought from Dundee Utd has signed a very similar contract. If the player/agent are willing to sign then good luck to Sporting. But certainly a sensible argument against from Dier.
 

fUnKy

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I respect the position Dier has taken on this because it's his career and his choice as to wether to sign a contract or not. But I also respect the position Sporting have taken in regards to contracts they are offering their young players! 5k is a realistic amount to pay a 19-20 year old player who hasn't achieved monumental success yet and is still developing as a player, and the 45 million clause just ensures they hold enough bargaining power when the big clubs inevitably come circling!

Just don't put a price on it... i can understand why they do it but can also understand a player being against it.
 

mano-obe

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5k wage and 45m buy out clause? Who is their chairman? Levy's twin brother? :wideyed:
 

fortworthspur

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he's absolutely right. a 45 million buy out just locks him in at relatively low wages for the duration of the contract. Nobody with better options should sign that.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Given that Sporting have stated that they were matching our offer, Dier is completely justified to set the record straight.
 
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