Dier

[spurs9]

Yet we're on here.

If we didn't go on websites because of the bullshit on there, the internet might as well not exist.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

If we didn't go on websites because of the bullshit on there, the internet might as well not exist.

It was a joke

 

[jambreck]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...chettino-Eric-Dier-England-U21-Euro-2015-news

"However, when asked whether he had spent the fortnight ahead of tomorrow's trip to Hull working specifically on his central defensive skills, as suggested, Pochettino's answer was an unequivocal "No!" His assistant Jesus Perez explained: "When we do defensive and attacking exercises we always rotate the players so they each get to experience all of the positions."

Interesting quote. And I like that they do that in training.

But to return to the earlier point, where does this story that Poch was angry / disappointed with Dier come from? I don't recall any such thing.

 

[spurs9]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...chettino-Eric-Dier-England-U21-Euro-2015-news

"However, when asked whether he had spent the fortnight ahead of tomorrow's trip to Hull working specifically on his central defensive skills, as suggested, Pochettino's answer was an unequivocal "No!" His assistant Jesus Perez explained: "When we do defensive and attacking exercises we always rotate the players so they each get to experience all of the positions."

This is a quote from Poch in that article:

"The player said he never refused to play right-back for Gareth, he just asked Gareth to release him so he could have a couple of weeks working with us."

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

Interesting quote. And I like that they do that in training.

But to return to the earlier point, where does this story that Poch was angry / disappointed with Dier come from? I don't recall any such thing.

It was discussed on here. It was suggested that poch thought that playing for country was an honour and he felt disappointed that Dier 'chose to stay at spurs ' for CB specific training. If this was the case the management team would of supported his story rather than blatantly show his story was a bag of crap.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

This is a quote from Poch in that article:

"The player said he never refused to play right-back for Gareth, he just asked Gareth to release him so he could have a couple of weeks working with us."

Being real does that sound believable to you? When have you heard of a player asking to be released from international duty to spend a couple of weeks training with his club?

 

[spurs9]

Being real does that sound believable to you? When have you heard of a player asking to be released from international duty to spend a couple of weeks training with his club?

It does sound believable, that a young player who has been struggling, might want to miss a U21 friendly to train with the club. How many players have asked to be released from Int duty as they don't want to play that position? How did Dier know he was going to play RB for England, did he ask Southgate before asking to be released and if so, would Southgate have been so supportive?

 

[jambreck]

It was discussed on here. It was suggested that poch thought that playing for country was an honour and he felt disappointed that Dier 'chose to stay at spurs ' for CB specific training. If this was the case the management team would of supported his story rather than blatantly show his story was a bag of crap.

Suggested by who?

Not Poch himself, I'll wager.

So sorry......I don't believe it.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

It does sound believable, that a young player who has been struggling, might want to miss a U21 friendly to train with the club. How many players have asked to be released from Int duty as they don't want to play that position? How did Dier know he was going to play RB for England, did he ask Southgate before asking to be released and if so, would Southgate have been so supportive?

If he was struggling why was he called up for international duty? It makes no sense to ask to train with his club as he does this everyday. Players are briefed surely, he wouldn't need to ask. Players don't ask to leave international duty.. To train specifically in a position, which was also denied by the club. The quote from Poch was "No" he didn't do specific training.

Has he been called up got any u21 games since?

 

[jambreck]

Being real does that sound believable to you? When have you heard of a player asking to be released from international duty to spend a couple of weeks training with his club?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if other players had done similar - if not exactly that.

At the time, Dier was either playing quite poorly for Spurs at right back or not playing at all. So I can well understand that he might have taken the long term view that sorting out his form for his club was the immediate priority and that an U21 international friendly could be sacrificed.

I think it shows courage and perceptiveness on his part. And if I had to guess, I suspect that Poch will have admired his single-mindedness.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

The point remains that Dier said he wanted to stay and train CB specific. When poch was asked did this happen Poch said "No" that doesn't sound like support for the player at all.

 

[spurs9]

If he was struggling why was he called up for international duty? It makes no sense to ask to train with his club as he does this everyday. Players are briefed surely, he wouldn't need to ask. Players don't ask to leave international duty.. To train specifically in a position, which was also denied by the club. The quote from Poch was "No" he didn't do specific training.

Has he been called up got any u21 games since?

It was the U21s, he could have been struggling and still been no better options than him. Plus Townsend has been called up to the senior national team when struggling for form (and before you say it, there is nothing to suggest Dier would have asked to be released had he had a senior call up).

Neither Dier nor Southgate said he was training for a specific position (read Dier's quote below). Lastly, there have been no more U21 games since for him to be called up for.

“I just felt that this two-week period gives me the opportunity to work on parts of my game that I have had problems with over the past two months, personal elements I need to work on both physically and on the football pitch that I think will make me a better player for both club and country in the long-term.”

 

[spurs9]

The point remains that Dier said he wanted to stay and train CB specific. When poch was asked did this happen Poch said "No" that doesn't sound like support for the player at all.

No he didn't.

 

[matthew.absurdum]

I think he is our best defender alongside rose. Let build the defensive line around him.

 

[arunspurs]

Dier is more better technically than Vertonghen IMO.

He can put a good cross left as well as right foot. & also seems to be creative while passing.

 

[HildoSpur]

He has the potential to go right to the very top - fantastic signing.

 

[NickHSpurs]

It's a shame he doesn't want play RB permanently as hes got a decent cross on him and always plays well there!

 

[Gbspurs]

Going to be a top player. Hope we can strengthen around him.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Turning out ot be an absolute bargain.

 

[Lenten]

Watching him perform at RB, strangely enough, convinces me that he has absolutely everything needed to be the best English CB since John Terry (I'm sure Mourinho is looking at him). Strength, size, pace, heading, temperament, probably our best crosser as well. Just add experience.