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Dušan Vlahović

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I don't think he goes for 80£ million it's being report that Atleti have agreed 60£ million euros which is probably a fair enough price. We are looking worse and worse off the longer the Kane saga rumbles on....
 

thelak

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And if we spent 70m on him and he struggled would we regret it?

We can't afford to blow big money on players unfortunately. Ndombele, Soldado, so on and so on.

We keep making expensive mistakes. Our game has always been to get that special player just before they break.

The sensible option would be to get in a striker who can spend a season adjusting so that if Kane goes next year, he can step up.

If Kane stayed and we forked out 70m on Vlahovic, he'd likely play second fiddle and lose confidence. At 70m it's too risky.

At 30m or less, it may not be as much of a loss if they don't work out.

If Kane had left and we got 150-200m for him, then you can take more of a risk and make him the main man. But with Kane in the way, it's too risky to do at that price.

It'll be very interesting to see where we go from here.

If this is the going rate for an unproven 1 season talent then what’s the point of selling Kane for £150m

You get no value on the other side and no guarantee of success

Kane for £150m only makes sense if you get 3 High potential but ready to perform now talents in the bracket below
 

the lad

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Besides we've always done better with the more under the radar types or those who are not demanding high fees.


I think it's fair to believe shopping in the Njie, Nkodou market is showing no ambition and is beneath us.

But it's also fair to not expect the club to get involved in crazy bidding wars.

We were the only team seemingly willing to go high for Ndombele and it's clear why.

We need to shop in the midrange, special talents that are not going to over exert us.

It's where we've gone wrong in recent times, we started chasing the higher end players who every big club was chasing at mega prices (De Jong, Ndombele, Bruno), we then overpaid on younger British players. Then, last season Jose applied the band aid with temporary fixes who turned out to be ill suited (Doherty, Hart, Vinicius)

We need to get back to better scouting with real value. Sarr fits that.

We could have had Bruno if we had paid what they wanted in the summer window.
 

thelak

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I'd just like to say Ndombele has the ability but is a mental problem, Lo Celso and Lamela blighted by injuries but both have/had potential, Sanchez can be good on his day, Soldado was decent in Spain before we signed him.

Using the timeline from Soldado, we also scouted Dele, Son, Eriksen, Toby, etc. So we've had players work out and not work out. Guess what? That's football. Not every signing will be a roaring success.

Every signing is a risk and nobody knows how they'll react when they arrive in a new country, new culture, new league, new club etc.

Arguably those 4 signings you list at the end are our only truly successful transfers in the last 8-9 years. Got to go back to Dembele and Verts before that

Sorry state of affairs
 

Mediocrates

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I don't.

I can probably count on one hand the number of strikers that have 'survived' the pressure of fees that large so early into a career that is, let's be honest, unremarkable so far.

For context, Haaland went for less than £20m at a far more proven stage in his career.

I agree at that price he's a swerve but this is lunacy. Haaland had played 6 months in Austria when he went for that price. Vlahovic just got young player of the year in Serie A. It's unquestionable Vlahovic is the more proven at the relative time of when each transfer happened/will happen.
We didn't get into a billion quids worth of debt to build this fancy new stadium to have the same transfer approach as when we were at the lane.

Were in and we need to compete s s just because some big name buys have gone wrong it doesn't mean we should lower our ambitions.

Let's see what happens come September but this kid and martinez are absolutely the type of buys we should be making.

This is an odd take given what’s happening at Barca, Real, Juventus and us still living through a global pandemic which has added c.£250 million more onto the aforementioned billion pounds of debt we already had ?
 
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Albertbarich

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Arguably those 4 signings you list at the end are our only truly successful transfers in the last 8-9 years. Got to go back to Dembele and Verts before that

Sorry state of affairs
If only we had addressed it by bringing in a new director of football to choose the signings.

Oh we have!



I agree at that price he's a swerve but this is lunacy. Haaland had played 6 months in Austria when he went for that price. Vlahovic just got young player of the year in Serie A. It's unquestionable who is the more pro


This is an odd take given what’s happening at Barca, Real, Juventus and us still living through a global pandemic which has added c.£250 million more onto the aforementioned billion pounds of debt we already had ?
Not at odd take at all. I was responding to those saying we shouldn't make big money signings because we had in the past and it hadn't worked. It reminded me of when people saying we shouldn't buy players from a league as it hasn't worked in the past.

If paratici wants a 20 million or 50 million player we should be trying to get them.

And you mention two atrociously run clubs one of which is going to sign Mbappe and Juve whose financial situation I have no idea about but they play in a small stadium in a league which rubbish TV rights.

If you want to compare look at man City, Chelsea, arsenal, man utd all of whom have spent big. Villa have invested albeit with the grealish money but they now look on paper at least to be a strong team, Leicester have made some very very shrewd signings.

Liverpool are the only club aren't really investing. But the point is these are clubs were competing with . Its now two years outside the champions league and if we don't invest its likely to continue.

Yes signing prospects could pay off but seeing as we have the facilities of a top club, we certainly charge like a top club, we have the sponsors of a top club and we have idea that we're a top club we should act like it no? Does that mean going mad in the market? No but we certainly need quality competition/cover for kane and if he leaves times that by two, we certainly need quality in midfield as witnessed on Thursday and another defender.

Sell to buy if fine but we always struggle to sell and the team has been suffering majorly because of this.

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I agree at that price he's a swerve but this is lunacy. Haaland had played 6 months in Austria when he went for that price. Vlahovic just got young player of the year in Serie A. It's unquestionable who is the more pro

It's a good attempt to be selective, but it lacks credibility.

Haaland won the Eliteserien Breakthrough of the Year at Molde in 2018, then in Austria he won both the Footballer of the Year, as well as the League Player of the Season, and the Under-20 World Cup Golden Boot, and was in the CL Breakthrough XI.

He played for Salzburg for just under a year and scored 29 goals in 27 games for them. Before that, he'd scored 20 goals for Molde's senior team pretty much before he'd reached 18 years old, and at a junior level he was scoring more than 1 goal per game.


Meanwhile, the only individual thing Vlahovic has won is the 'Serie A young player award' at 21. He scored 3 goals in 27 at Partizan and, prior to last season, had scored 8 goals in 44 games for Fiorentina.

He's just an expensive Vincent Janssen at this stage. If you were suggesting he's better or more professional than Haaland, that's beyond words.
 
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wrd

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Personally I still think this one might be doable, Trix said something along the lines of agents are confident that there's a lot of bluster coming out of clubs who are still hoping to sell deadwood so right now they're trying their best to price their talents out of moves but come the final week they expect it to change, so let's just see.
 

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Meeting in Rome of the purple leadership to talk about #Vlahovic , who in turn will meet Commisso in the next few hours to define his future
 

AJW

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Between Vlahovic and Cunha. TODAY is a key day for the new Atlético de Madrid striker. Dusan already spoke with Cholo, Matheus is ready and can fly to Madrid at any time. The rojiblancos want to close the matter in the next few hours ⏳?⚪



 

curlacious

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Between Vlahovic and Cunha. TODAY is a key day for the new Atlético de Madrid striker. Dusan already spoke with Cholo, Matheus is ready and can fly to Madrid at any time. The rojiblancos want to close the matter in the next few hours ⏳?⚪




I wonder if Milenkovic resigning has swayed him to stay.
 

Montalbano

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It’s like some of our supporters want and will the club to do badly just so they can say look how right I was
It’s like some of our supporters want to take the moral high ground for no reason just so they can show how much of a tit they are.

Where the fuck did I say I want it to happen? Get a grip.
 
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