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djhotspur

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Can't we wait a few weeks with that verdict?

So far the club made early and excellent business. Obviously we need a top LCB the most, but lets wait what they come up with.

If Ange is on board having Lenglet in the squad i am all in for it.
I’m not. I’ve seen the guy play in a high line high press Barca team and he got exposed badly.
 

the yid

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Let's cut the crap. No one really wants Lenglet back. He isn't good enough as a squad option. I want Tapsoba and another in but it better not be Lenglet in too
I can see the benefits for a couple years as a backup player who will play less that 10 games a season. We can sign everyone we want now as much as we'd like to so putting the money towards a top class CB to play alongside Romero 1 game a week yes I can see the benefits to it. I expect more CBs next summer then look to move him on a year later. He's a capable defender and makes less mistakes than Dier Davies Sanchez also hard to judge any player we signed last season when 98% of the squad were useless last year.
 

cliff jones

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Every successful side has just okay pro's to cover the starting xi unless your city you cant have world class players warming your bench in every position. The problem will be if he is being signed as a regular starter. as long as we still sign another LCB I have no issue with signing Lenglet as a squad player.

John o Shea had a very succesful United career. The scums invincibles had pascal cygan sometimes we need to make smart squad signings not just world class starting xi signings. I certainly prefer him to Dier, Snachez or Tanganga.
that was the scum's problem, Saliba dies and Holding cost them. So now they buy Timber.

United fell away a bit when Martinez got injured- they will need to add at least one as will the Saudis now they have CL-
Botman and Schar can't play every game this season.

Liverpool are pretty well stacked although some of you might think Dier and Lenglet are as good as Matip and Gomez. Perhaps that's why they finished as low as 5th, and we finished as low as 8th. Klopp can buy all the midfielders he likes...

We need pace to play the line and none of Dier, Lenglet nor Davies are the answer
 

Dunc2610

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Can't we wait a few weeks with that verdict?

So far the club made early and excellent business. Obviously we need a top LCB the most, but lets wait what they come up with.

If Ange is on board having Lenglet in the squad i am all in for it.
I think your last sentence sums it up really, if Ange is happy with him, I should imagine as a backup, then why shouldn't we be happy. After all, we're not going to be buying 3 new cbs if we don't sign him. He's a known quantity, and now knows the league.

I really don't see how anyone can expect us to sign 3 entirely new centre backs to partner Romero.
 

spursfan77

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It would be good to get some movement on this (or not) this week or next wouldnt it?

Such an important factor bringing in a first choice centre back. If we think that he is the guy then we really need to sweat the deal to get it done.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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that was the scum's problem, Saliba dies and Holding cost them. So now they buy Timber.

United fell away a bit when Martinez got injured- they will need to add at least one as will the Saudis now they have CL-
Botman and Schar can't play every game this season.

Liverpool are pretty well stacked although some of you might think Dier and Lenglet are as good as Matip and Gomez. Perhaps that's why they finished as low as 5th, and we finished as low as 8th.

We need pace to play the line and none of Dier, Lenglet nor Davies are the answer
True although we have no europe next season and we are a year or more behind Arsenal in terms of our squad development so for now something like : Romero, Tapsoba, Lenglet and one of : Dier, Sanchez, Tanganga, Rodon and/or a youth team player that Ange likes the look of etc could be ok.

However I do agree that the more quality depth we can get at CB the better.

Ideally we'd have something like: Romero, Tapsoba, Van Der Ven or Tosin and then one of : Tanganga, Sanchez, Dier, Rodon, Lenglet.

I can see us getting a deal done for Lenglet but yea his lack of pace could be a bit of an issue in a high line but Ange will know best.
 

the yid

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Having said all that it's being reported Barca want €15m for him not sure I'd pay £13m I thought we were talking more £5m!
 

Trix

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Having said all that it's being reported Barca want €15m for him not sure I'd pay £13m I thought we were talking more £5m!
I don't see anyone considering paying that other than the Saudi's. Barca are in such a weak position regarding Lenglet.
 

Japhet

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I’m not. I’ve seen the guy play in a high line high press Barca team and he got exposed badly.

That Barca high line was batshit crazy though. They had no pace at all and were often all in the opponent's half.
 

kd2000

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Having said all that it's being reported Barca want €15m for him not sure I'd pay £13m I thought we were talking more £5m!
I wouldn't be surprised if we leave things as they are, Barca terminate his contract later in the window and we go back in.
Barca are in severe financial trouble in terms of being able to register players
 

Oscar22

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Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like we’d be in just as good a position if we signed say Tapsoba and Tosin, then found our best youth defender to be a part of the squad.. save the wages or small fee we would spend on Lenglet for bumping up a wage or a fee in another area where the player might have more of an impact.

I feel like with Lenglet we’re just sort of filling a hole without it really having much of an effect either way, and we could do that with youth 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I’m sure this sounds harsh on Lenglet, I appreciate he’s played at Barca and Champions League etc, it just seems a bit…. Unnecessary?
 

Ghost Hardware

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I don't see anyone considering paying that other than the Saudi's. Barca are in such a weak position regarding Lenglet.
They are in a weak position regarding everyone. I bet they were probably offering us and anyone who would listen deals for a number of different players. Too many players on vast wages who they just don’t need and can’t afford to keep.
 

jpascavitz

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I don't see anyone considering paying that other than the Saudi's. Barca are in such a weak position regarding Lenglet.

There were already some rumors and lower trusted publications saying Spurs are waiting for Barca and Lenglet to mutually terminate, really wouldn't shock me and screams of Barca trying to hurry it up publicly.

It definitely seems like we're focused on securing a primary target in the Tapsoba mould firstly, let's hope so.
 

BENNO

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Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like we’d be in just as good a position if we signed say Tapsoba and Tosin, then found our best youth defender to be a part of the squad.. save the wages or small fee we would spend on Lenglet for bumping up a wage or a fee in another area where the player might have more of an impact.

I feel like with Lenglet we’re just sort of filling a hole without it really having much of an effect either way, and we could do that with youth 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I’m sure this sounds harsh on Lenglet, I appreciate he’s played at Barca and Champions League etc, it just seems a bit…. Unnecessary?
I'd be happy with Tapsoba and Tosin + elevate the best youth defender especially when you consider we are almost certainly going to still have Dier around.

But equally i am loathe to form hard and fast opinions on players based on what they did in a self combusting team under a different coach (who was having a breakdown) last season.

Can't comment on Lenglet at Barca but Barca paid a fair bit for him, we took him from Barca and remain interested, so i'd say that some fairly decent footballing people seem to rate the bloke and i'd be inclined to trust them and our new manager over me, you or 99.9% of us on here !
 

mil1lion

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He's okay.

But he'll struggle even more under our new football.
Not sure he would struggle in a more possession team rather than one inviting pressure. I guess the concern is pace on the counter but if he has pace around him to cover should be OK. As long as we get a pacey replacement for Sanchez then they or Romero could get back as with the pacey fullbacks. Just avoid having Lenglet, Davies and Emerson all starting. I'm OK with Lenglet as long as it's him plus 2 more. If it means the money saved helps get someone like Tapsoba as first choice plus add competition for Romero too.
 

mr ashley

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I'd be happy with Tapsoba and Tosin + elevate the best youth defender especially when you consider we are almost certainly going to still have Dier around.

But equally i am loathe to form hard and fast opinions on players based on what they did in a self combusting team under a different coach (who was having a breakdown) last season.

Can't comment on Lenglet at Barca but Barca paid a fair bit for him, we took him from Barca and remain interested, so i'd say that some fairly decent footballing people seem to rate the bloke and i'd be inclined to trust them and our new manager over me, you or 99.9% of us on here !
Tapsoba, tosin, Romero and lenglet (or dier) will probably be the best we can hope for
We desperately need to get Sanchez and Tanganga out the door, and if we can get money for dier too then great.

signing lenglet as a free agent later in the window if we can’t get vdv wouldn’t be the worst option.
however im not sure that dorrington would get many minutes with us out of Europe (and crucially- needing to take every cup seriously). So it’s probably better for him to go on loan if we want him to develop.
 

nedley

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Not sure he would struggle in a more possession team rather than one inviting pressure. I guess the concern is pace on the counter but if he has pace around him to cover should be OK. As long as we get a pacey replacement for Sanchez then they or Romero could get back as with the pacey fullbacks. Just avoid having Lenglet, Davies and Emerson all starting. I'm OK with Lenglet as long as it's him plus 2 more. If it means the money saved helps get someone like Tapsoba as first choice plus add competition for Romero too.
He got rinsed time and time again on the turn at Barcelona whilst playing higher up and aggressive football..

We've also seen him ourselves in that position.
 

mil1lion

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He got rinsed time and time again on the turn at Barcelona whilst playing higher up and aggressive football..

We've also seen him ourselves in that position.
I wouldn't say time and time again. That's an exaggeration. They actually had a good run under Valverde with Lenglet at the back. We also didn't concede too many that were a direct result of him. I'm not saying I want to sign him but justifying why it could be ok. Like if he's 1 of 3 incoming centre backs I don't have an issue with it. If we can't afford both Tapsoba and VdV then Lenglet on a free is better than Dier for left centre back cover.
 

yido_number1

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I wouldn't say time and time again. That's an exaggeration. They actually had a good run under Valverde with Lenglet at the back. We also didn't concede too many that were a direct result of him. I'm not saying I want to sign him but justifying why it could be ok. Like if he's 1 of 3 incoming centre backs I don't have an issue with it. If we can't afford both Tapsoba and VdV then Lenglet on a free is better than Dier for left centre back cover.
I agree with how you see it but it's a shame that that's what we're aiming for. Bar is set pretty low here as he was distinctly average for us.

In an ideal world we'd sign a better player but he's at least better than Dier and Tanganga right now. definitely has the next dead wood signing tag about him.
 
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