Emmanuel Adebayor blasts Tottenham fans:

[JerryGarcia]

Maybe after the Hillsborough case comes to a close and it's proven that the Police were at fault, the government can start allowing clubs to make standing sections available. This should be done with great care though and if it were up to me I'd limit standing ticket prices to about £15 to allow more 15-25 year olds to go. This would imo make a huge difference to all the clubs in the top leagues.

 

[Drexl]

If players are affected by booing then they need to man the fuck up, am sure at 50k-150k a week they can handle a bit of flak, soldiers on 20k a YEAR are getting shot at etc

The players need to grow a pair and start being professional

 

[JerryGarcia]

Fantastic post, totally agree.

Those that are crying and throwing their toys out of the pram, sort yourselves out and get behind the team or don't bother going at all. The team don't need you.

I was trying to be more diplomatic there, I actually think the team does need them and that's the important thing to remember. There are a lot of long time loyal fans who've fallen out of love with the game but still go, the team needs their support. On the other hand, if they can't give that support for whatever reason then maybe its time to think about staying home.

 

[hybridsoldier]

I would say we've just been spoiled from the time under Harry but to be honest the atmosphere at the Lane has been shit for years and years even before that.

Outside of the European nights and big PL games the crowd in general feel like they are doing the club a favour by turning up. Nobody seems to want to enjoy themselves.

The club needs a change from top to bottom. Change of attitude from everyone involved because it's so toxic it's not enjoyable for anyone. That doesn't happen overnight, we need a major change and there are no characters in the playing or coaching staff to instigate that. The Chairman has done a very good job but you'd love someone else to come in now and shake things up a bit because it's been a steady decline for years while the prices go up, the new stadium drags on, and there is nothing reassuring or inspiring coming.

 

[crokey]

Seriously, please, explain to me what my end of the bargain is. I bought my ST (in fact two, I pay for my son's) when we were unpopular and there was no waiting list for ST so it's not as if I haven't paid my dues-not that I boo. I've roared them on, added to the atmosphere, added to the intimidatory atmosphere when 100% of the stadium was haranguing Campbell to the point where his head was gone and he couldn't kick the ball straight, I've kept my side of the bargain.

If you don't boo then why are you replying to my post? What has this got to do with you?

 

[edgey]

Some of you are so angry about the money that you forget or ignore the fact that booing during a match still doesn't help the team play better. It's like a form of self harm and if your support depends on value for money then there's really no hope for the future because prices aren't going to suddenly be halved. When you buy a ticket there is no guarantee that the team will win, you take that chance and you know it.

We're entitled to demand effort but in many cases bad form and nervousness are being mistaken for laziness or the boos start when a player is just coming onto the pitch. This won't be popular but if you really don't enjoy going to the football then stay at home and vote with your feet, I don't understand the mentality of people who go and shout abuse, boo or make it miserable for others around them for 90mins.

Best post on here!

 

[Stoof]

Maybe after the Hillsborough case comes to a close and it's proven that the Police were at fault, the government can start allowing clubs to make standing sections available. This should be done with great care though and if it were up to me I'd limit standing ticket prices to about £15 to allow more 15-25 year olds to go. This would imo make a huge difference to all the clubs in the top leagues.

The problem with Hillsborough is that it applied two fixes to a problem of which only one was required.

All ticket games. You have a capacity.

Standing or no standing. You let 40,000 people in, there are only going to be 40,000 people in there. That's all that was needed.

It was overkill. I know it was a tragedy and involved some serious police skulduggery - but the solution to prevent future incidents also started the demise of the "crowd".

 

[Spurger King]

Actually you're right! If we adopt the boo in our daily lives it will lose all of its original meaning. We can chant 'Boo Army!' and the players will see it as a sign of support.

I think we should boo when we score.

 

[maltahotspur]

In my opinion I don't think there's enough booing. Not necessarily at the Lane, but generally.

Next time I go to the supermarket and they don't have my favourite brand of blueberry muffin? BOOOOOOO.

Next time I'm at the cinema and I think a scene hasn't been shot particularly well? BOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Traffic lights turn red? Just stick your head out of the window and BOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Can't find your keys? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I don't condone booing and of course, I would never boo our own.

But, if I may ask, how would you react and demand to get your monies worth if say, you go to the theatre and the actors mess it up big time ? Or say, you order a plate of steak in a restaurant and you are served with a piece of meat so tough, that you can't eat or digest ? Or say, to take your car in for a paint job and you are given it back worse than you took it in ?

My point is, that is what our fans are enduring right now. They are suffering endless pain and feel let down. They are paying top Dollar (probably the highest pricing in the Premier League) to watch their heroes perform and in return they have to endure the pain of mediocrity !!

We have lost patience when we shouldn't be in this mess.

 

[JerryGarcia]

The problem with Hillsborough is that it applied two fixes to a problem of which only one was required.

All ticket games. You have a capacity.

Standing or no standing. You let 40,000 people in, there are only going to be 40,000 people in there. That's all that was needed.

It was overkill. I know it was a tragedy and involved some serious police skulduggery - but the solution to prevent future incidents also started the demise of the "crowd".

Yeah it was major overkill and I can't help but think if the Police hadn't pushed the blame solely onto the fans we might not even have this thread now. Standing sections would improve things overnight and allow more people to attend matches so I'm hopefull that it won't be long before it comes back.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

I think the biggest reason for the boos is the pack of actual effort and heart from the players. I would.like to see Ade go on from these comments and blow everyone away with an individual performance to shut the fans up instead of retreating back into nowhere and using it as an excuse. Theres also a decent curebfor the booers too, dont go

 

[Stoof]

Some of you are so angry about the money that you forget or ignore the fact that booing during a match still doesn't help the team play better. It's like a form of self harm and if your support depends on value for money then there's really no hope for the future because prices aren't going to suddenly be halved. When you buy a ticket there is no guarantee that the team will win, you take that chance and you know it.

We're entitled to demand effort but in many cases bad form and nervousness are being mistaken for laziness or the boos start when a player is just coming onto the pitch. This won't be popular but if you really don't enjoy going to the football then stay at home and vote with your feet, I don't understand the mentality of people who go and shout abuse, boo or make it miserable for others around them for 90mins.

Exactly this.

The atmosphere is so negative that it's making me consider not want to go and I've been a ST holder for years. I want to feel part of a positive crowd (maybe I'm not realistic). I love what the 1882 movemnet has done - and props to The Fighting Cock for it. That is what being a supporter is about. Fuck me, the clue is in the name. You're a supporter. You provide support.

I hate the "I pay my taxes" line of argument. It's bullshit. Go to the theatre if you want a show. If you want to be a football fan then fucking sing up.

This'll be unpopular. But I don't care.

 

[Blake Griffin]

do fans actually boo during the game? sigh, groan and moan sure, but boo? i haven't heard it. the fact that our players go to pieces at the slightest hint of discontent says all you need to know about them really.

 

[Spurger King]

I don't condone booing and of course, I would never boo our own.

But, if I may ask, how would you react and demand to get your monies worth if say, you go to the theatre and the actors mess it up big time ? Or say, you order a plate of steak in a restaurant and you are served with a piece of meat so tough, that you can't eat or digest ? Or say, to take your car in for a paint job and you are given it back worse than you took it in ?

Well I'd boooo of course.

Lost count of the number of times I've been sat in a restaurant with a bit of overcooked steak and thought "well there's only one thing for it".

*puts knife and fork down

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

 

[Stoof]

I don't condone booing and of course, I would never boo our own.

But, if I may ask, how would you react and demand to get your monies worth if say, you go to the theatre and the actors mess it up big time ? Or say, you order a plate of steak in a restaurant and you are served with a piece of meat so tough, that you can't eat or digest ? Or say, to take your car in for a paint job and you are given it back worse than you took it in ?

My point is, that is what our fans are enduring right now. They are suffering endless pain and feel let down. They are paying top Dollar (probably the highest pricing in the Premier League) to watch their heroes perform and in return they have to endure the pain of mediocrity !!

We have lost patience when we shouldn't be in this mess.

Sorry, what service is Tottenham Hotspur providing for your money? I must have missed that?

 

[cozzo]

Oi Adebayor, how about apologizing for the team that is serving up dogshit football week in and week out? How about putting a full shift in you ***? How about telling us the team will play harder and make more effort in future in order to, you know, win games?

If not then just fuck off and don't come back.

I hope someone prints off this thread and mails it to him. Useless tosser.

Here lies the problem

 

[Stoof]

do fans actually boo during the game? sigh, groan and moan sure, but boo? i haven't heard it. the fact that our players go to pieces at the slightest hint of discontent says all you need to know about them really.

They did on Sunday.

Some bloke told Townsend he was toilet and then booed him. Great.

 

[whitesocks]

Don't forget they are very young. Can you imagine if my Kid came home from school and I laid him to him about not doing anything right. I'd rather give him encouragement so he can keep trying.

There are parenting books that say you should praise the work rather than the child.
ie There is good and bad work rather than good and bad children.
If you are presented with something that shows no effort or talent
then be honest on why you are disappointed in the drawing for instants,
and how it could be better. You'll both know when the work is brilliant.

Some players did come out with credit against stoke - Lloris, Rose, Mason, Chadli but that was about it. They know we liked what we saw and they can have pride in their performance.
Some players (and MP) were shocking and it is best to be honest about it.
It is nothing personal. (xpt in Adebayor's case as he is a gooner).

 

[scat1620]

There's elements of blame on both sides here, but FAR more on the players than the fans, IMO. What the players don't seem to realise is that even when they're going through bad patches of form in terms of quality and technique, they're still likely to get the crowd onside if they run through brick walls for the cause and leave everything they have out on the pitch.

Sometimes your passes don't find their man, or sometimes your first touch gets away from you, or sometimes you spoon an easy chance into row Z - when you're not in form that will happen and there's not much you can do about it. What you CAN do though (whether you're on fire or badly out-of-sorts) is run until your lungs burst, and put in strong tackles and make it no fun at all for the opposition to play against you. You can do this EVERY SINGLE WEEK, WHATEVER YOUR FORM, and if you do then you'll find that the crowd will forgive your misplaced pass or your shanked corner. They'll cheer you to the rafters when you leave one on the opposition's ****y little winger, or when you chase down the opposing keeper and force him to slice his clearance for a throw-in.

Absolutely it will be a fillip to you when the crowd cheer you at top volume come rain or shine, and it will inspire you to perform better than you otherwise would have. But you can - and MUST - earn the base amount of goodwill by yourself by working like a Trojan and showing an aggressive and passionate attitude, and you can do that whether you're playing like Messi or like Carlton Palmer. Do the basic minimum that we all expect, and you'll make friends with any crowd, even the moany bastards that inhabit White Hart Lane.

It all starts with YOU, dear players, no two ways about it.

 

[knilly]

Is this the 3rd person to speak out after AVB, and Sherwood?

If the fans can moan about lack of mentality then the players / managers can point out the crowd are affecting performances. This isn't a surprise....1882 anyone?

Ive mentioned this before but the team were booed off in bales last game. 45 mins later we could have been in the champions league.

This is a deep rooted problem but Ade will be vilified for saying what half of the SC members have said. How very dare he!