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Emmanuel Adebayor blasts Tottenham fans:

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Micky Hazard on twitter summed it all up for me earlier today:

Micky Hazard @1MickyHazard · 7 hours ago
Confidence is not dictated by Success or Failure, nor Boos or Cheers, it's ones inner belief that no matter what, I am Confident and Able

Right now, only a few of our players are both confident and able.
 
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JohannTHFC

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We have a lot of problems at Spurs at the moment and 1 of them is in our control

The atmosphere isn't in our control though. 36,000 fans go to the game, only a handful actually care about creating a positivie atmosphere. As I said in my other post the board could do things to get everyone hyped, even if its just playing music when we score. The opinons and mindsets of 36,000 people are most certainly not in our control though and there is no solution going down the path of trying to encourage a minority of folks over the internet or even within your friend circle (unless you are friends with like 50% of the WHL capacity) to shout and try and encourage the players.
 

Mr Pink

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I agree with you to an extent, but the fans are still a big problem.

I don't think it is a coincidence that players like Capoue started the season off well, always showing for the ball and as the restlessness of the fans has increased and we have become more vocal with our disappointment, there performances are declining and hiding from the ball.

Our players need to improve their mentality (and confidence), but I can't see this ever happening whilst the fans are always on their back.

Imagine you were going through a bad patch at work and your customers were constantly moaning and groaning as you are trying to do your work.

Some players might not have the right attitude, but a hostile atmosphere doesn't just effect them, it effects every player on the pitch including those who are trying hard. We should support the team the best we possibly can, if a player isn't trying don't sing their name just sing the manes of the players who are trying.It's not the fans job's to weed out the players with the poor attitude, that's the managers job.

If we actually support the team, I have no doubt we will see a rise in performance and attitude on the pitch and if the players don't respond, we have taken away there biggest excuse and Poch will be better placed to make decisions on dropping them and trying to improve them.

IMO, if fans want to show disappointment, stay away from the ground. It will hurt ENIC in the pocket and having 20,000 fans turn up and support the team will be better than having 36,000 fans with 12,000 booing and groaning.

We have a lot of problems at Spurs at the moment and 1 of them is in our control, let's do our bit, give them more support than they deserve, constantly sing songs, cheer them on, work against the away team rather than for them and take it from there. After all, how many teams have come from 2-0 down to win whilst getting a chorus of boo's?

I'm not saying Adebayor is wrong, he most certainly has a point as my post acknowledged. The fans at home arn't helping when they do that, I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.

But its not the only problem. How do we explain the hammerings and slack attitude we've seen away from home to? Is that the fans fault? Our away fans are an exceptional bunch.

You look at how we conceded the goal away to City, last season, away to Liverpool, and at home to Newcastle at the very start of the second half two weeks ago? You don't have to be a genius to spot the trend and in two of those examples they're away from home - so its not just the fans. The manner in which we've conceded some goals typifies a poor and unprofessional attitude.

I agree with Adebayor but I resent the implication behind his statement - which to me reads that its fans who are the real problem, and its like hiding behind that. The truth is everybody needs to do better and we need to see more effort from the players, that's the long and short of it.

I'd like to hear someone come out and say, you know what we arn't giving enough as a team. Never mind systems, high pressing, philosophies and all that....some bloody fight and endeavour would go a long way right now. Show some bollox etc.

I guarantee you that if the crowd saw some fight in the team there would be more latitude in terms of waiting for the pretty fluid football to arrive.

I do agree that some sections of the support don't help, and its completely counter productive to boo - would never dream of doing it myself, but there's a lot more to this than just that IMO.
 

JJetset

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Some of you are so angry about the money that you forget or ignore the fact that booing during a match still doesn't help the team play better. It's like a form of self harm and if your support depends on value for money then there's really no hope for the future because prices aren't going to suddenly be halved. When you buy a ticket there is no guarantee that the team will win, you take that chance and you know it.

We're entitled to demand effort but in many cases bad form and nervousness are being mistaken for laziness or the boos start when a player is just coming onto the pitch. This won't be popular but if you really don't enjoy going to the football then stay at home and vote with your feet, I don't understand the mentality of people who go and shout abuse, boo or make it miserable for others around them for 90mins.

Spot on.
Players aren't thinking of their wages when on the pitch as that is just a bi-product of the commercial success of UK football. Football is not the real world so don't expect them to run around more because they get ridiculous money. That isn't their motivation.
Whatever your opinion is on booing or abusing it does affect the players performance.
Loads of other reasons why we are in this predicament but abusing or booing players isn't supporting Tottenham and if you are not supporting them then why do you follow them?
I understand the frustrations as i'm the same as the rest but if you want success then go to a soulless place and support Chelsea or City and yes i know that last comment is a bit inflammatory!
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Spot on.
Players aren't thinking of their wages when on the pitch as that is just a bi-product of the commercial success of UK football. Football is not the real world so don't expect them to run around more because they get ridiculous money. That isn't their motivation.
Whatever your opinion is on booing or abusing it does affect the players performance.
Loads of other reasons why we are in this predicament but abusing or booing players isn't supporting Tottenham and if you are not supporting them then why do you follow them?
I understand the frustrations as i'm the same as the rest but if you want success then go to a soulless place and support Chelsea or City.

JJ.. why are we in this mess?
 

Mustard

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My job is pressurised.

I do have millions relying on me to do a good job. But I can ignore this. I can compartmentalize. I get my head down and I work.

I'm well paid. I appreciate that I'm well paid because of the pressure. I get producers around me panicking like shit. But I know my job. I do my job.

Fuck Ade.
 

JollyHappy

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My job is pressurised.

I do have millions relying on me to do a good job. But I can ignore this. I can compartmentalize. I get my head down and I work.

I'm well paid. I appreciate that I'm well paid because of the pressure. I get producers around me panicking like shit. But I know my job. I do my job.

Fuck Ade.

Ok and if you had to do your job watched by, say, 500 people who had paid to watch you for the day and then half way through one person started calling you a lazy wank*r and then another starting shouting that you are crap and don't deserve the job then you went out for lunch and when you came back people starting booing you then would you still be fine with that?
 

parklane1

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Some of you are so angry about the money that you forget or ignore the fact that booing during a match still doesn't help the team play better. It's like a form of self harm and if your support depends on value for money then there's really no hope for the future because prices aren't going to suddenly be halved. When you buy a ticket there is no guarantee that the team will win, you take that chance and you know it.

We're entitled to demand effort but in many cases bad form and nervousness are being mistaken for laziness or the boos start when a player is just coming onto the pitch. This won't be popular but if you really don't enjoy going to the football then stay at home and vote with your feet, I don't understand the mentality of people who go and shout abuse, boo or make it miserable for others around them for 90mins.

Good post, only morons boo their own players and its not helping the team in anyway.

A true supporter takes the wins and the losses the good and the bad and still supports their side regardless.
 

JJetset

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JJ.. why are we in this mess?

Not for here and not just 1 reason! A whole catalogue of mistakes over the last 4 years which just keeps on compounding and no easy fix either as most of the decisions have been based on financial decisions with the right intentions but ultimately to be successful you need good players and continuity and consistency in a club, we have had neither of the latter.Our great opportunities to build on our successes were squandered and you can work out why that happened.
We can all also look in hindsight at the big mistakes and say how we wouldn't have done that at the time and also at the individual mistakes from Levy-Harry-AVB-Sherwood-Baldini and the players.
 

thinktank

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Not for here and not just 1 reason! A whole catalogue of mistakes over the last 4 years which just keeps on compounding and no easy fix either as most of the decisions have been based on financial decisions with the right intentions but ultimately to be successful you need good players and continuity and consistency in a club, we have had neither of the latter.Our great opportunities to build on our successes were squandered and you can work out why that happened.
We can all also look in hindsight at the big mistakes and say how we wouldn't have done that at the time and also at the individual mistakes from Levy-Harry-AVB-Sherwood-Baldini and the players.
JJ. Just a quickie: will poch be properly backed and will he be given the time he needs?

We need to get off the merry-go-round and stick with this one.
 

JJetset

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JJ. Just a quickie: will poch be properly backed and will he be given the time he needs?

We need to get off the merry-go-round and stick with this one.
Agree and i hope/think so. He needs his players.
 

spursfan77

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Agree and i hope/think so. He needs his players.

Trix on COYS said that's what he expects. Levy to back him.

No idea if he will get him his players or not though. Personally I doubt it without selling some first. But who's going to take our cast offs for levy prices. Not many teams.
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Ok and if you had to do your job watched by, say, 500 people who had paid to watch you for the day and then half way through one person started calling you a lazy wank*r and then another starting shouting that you are crap and don't deserve the job then you went out for lunch and when you came back people starting booing you then would you still be fine with that?

Thats a job description from Sports Direct
 

RuskyM

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all due respect to pochettino but it's a bit of a farce if he suddenly gets his players after the worst start we've made since ramos & none of harry, avb or sherwood got who they wanted, especially when we were in better positions

genuinely don't think we know what we're doing
 

Mustard

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Not for here and not just 1 reason! A whole catalogue of mistakes over the last 4 years which just keeps on compounding and no easy fix either as most of the decisions have been based on financial decisions with the right intentions but ultimately to be successful you need good players and continuity and consistency in a club, we have had neither of the latter.Our great opportunities to build on our successes were squandered and you can work out why that happened.
We can all also look in hindsight at the big mistakes and say how we wouldn't have done that at the time and also at the individual mistakes from Levy-Harry-AVB-Sherwood-Baldini and the players.


I understand you are a person who has a link to the powers that be.

Please pass on my regards in respect to the world class supermarket we have acquired.

It really is top notch.
 

spursfan77

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It hasn't been mentioned on here yet but Peter Crouch got a very warm welcome back. We were singing "one nil in the San siro" etc and he was loving it.

Maybe if you're a player who tries hard you'll be liked.
 

edgey

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all due respect to pochettino but it's a bit of a farce if he suddenly gets his players after the worst start we've made since ramos & none of harry, avb or sherwood got who they wanted, especially when we were in better positions

genuinely don't think we know what we're doing

Could say that, or you could look at it as learning from their mistakes (albeit too little too late)
 
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