England admit they are braced to be fined for Harry Kane wearing a 'One Love' captain's armband

[Sid Tottenham]

Weapons deals are also done in great secrecy whereas the World Cup puts Qatar directly in the World spotlight.

The only thing good to come out of this World Cup possibly is it highlights the hypocrisy and the corruption in the world.
unfortunately in 6 weeks it will probably be all forgotten so as you were everyone nothing to see here.
Congratulations to Uruguay hopefully got them in the pub sweepstake

 

[whitesocks]

Call me sceptical but the qatari's have a big box of money to make these issues go away. Kane and the Fa are just negotiating. I dont think Kane will wear this armband - fifa will rack up the consequences, if it comes down to it.

 

[double0]

Harry Kane should not wear the one love arm band. He should respect the people of Qatar period. All noises about Qatar etc human rights etc the question is if x countries are so up in arms why haven't they boycotted the tournament.

 

[McFlash]

Harry Kane should not wear the one love arm band. He should respect the people of Qatar period. All noises about Qatar etc human rights etc the question is if x countries are so up in arms why haven't they boycotted the tournament.

Fuck the people of Qatar and their backwards ways and if Harry wants to wear the armband, then good for him.

It's not like the England captain can, or would boycott a world cup, whatever the state of the hosts but there's no reason he can't make this sort of gesture.

It's a complete farce that Qatar was even considered, let alone given this world stage but making these little gestures may go a long way.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Random user with very few posts. It’s probably a troll. Best ignored.

Went on it a while back. Its clearly a wind up account / Internet persona.

I've got mixed views on this. Part of me hates seeing 'politics' etc pushed into sport. but at the same time i get why its a useful median to get a point across. I dont really see what wearing an arm band will do, though. Other than be a bit rebellious? Will it spark social change in Qatar? Will it even spark discussion amongst the populace? Will it leave a legacy? Ir will it just make more tolerant nations feel they've made a point amongst their own populace?

I feel doubtful about the gesture having any lasting impact.

I sort of get where Lloris is coming from on the topic too. (When in rome). And it should have been properly outraged 10 years ago. That said, the whole lgbtq+ point is somewhat low on a list of what's important when so many died building the place. I'd rather see some sort of gesture on that and against human greed.

I won't be watching.

 

[14/04/91]

Couple of points:

The ban is from FIFA, they will be the ones issuing the fine, not the Qatari government.

When it was announced, FIFA had the choice to address the human rights issues and the various religious laws that would impact international visitors but they chose not to because money. A bottomless pit of money. They will bow and curtsey to these medieval laws that have no actual basis in a peaceful existence, that are there to control and suppress free will.

Fuck FIFA, they had a golden opportunity to use the unifying nature of the World Cup to support human rights but they chose money.

Once the contest has started Harry should wear the armband proudly, and the FA should refuse to pay any fines issued. Let's see them take the FA to court over it, lets see them defend that.

Spot on.
Presumably the fine would relate to the FIFA law around countries making political statements?
The way round it would be simply a rainbow armband with no mention of LGBT on it.
That way it supports the organisation but FIFA would be powerless; a rainbow is not solely related to LGBT so FIFA could not prove it a political gesture.
Scuppered of course if there is a law that armbands have to be a certain colour.
Fucking crazy that it’s come to this. And that’s the bottom line.

 

[yiddopaul]

Maybe because some things are more important than football.

Well in that case, we should have boycotted it. Hypocrisy. Pure greed.

 

[yiddopaul]

Fuck the people of Qatar and their backwards ways and if Harry wants to wear the armband, then good for him.

It's not like the England captain can, or would boycott a world cup, whatever the state of the hosts but there's no reason he can't make this sort of gesture.

It's a complete farce that Qatar was even considered, let alone given this world stage but making these little gestures may go a long way.

If they were that bothered about it, they would not go. Same goes for every other country that has gone. I suspect a lot of lucrative business deals will get done during and after this tournament.

 

[Hakkz]

Well in that case, we should have boycotted it. Hypocrisy. Pure greed.

Agreed. If he had a spine he would have, but he doesnt. Just like the rest of the footballers. Their football adventure is more important to them.

 

[Freddie]

Players standing up and being counted would have spoken volumes, but as we're well aware, their own agendas always come first. It's a real shame that not a single one of them has the bollocks to do it in all honesty. Rosa Parkes went down in history for her stand against segregation which ranks a lot higher than winning or competing in any football tournament.

It's amazing how many people who haven't been called up to a world cup squad would take the moral high ground. Coincidentally very few who actually have the opportunity to live out a childhood dream have opted to do the same. The FAs of a few big countries could have got together and taken such a stance but I don't blame individual players for not doing so.

 

[Freddie]

The only thing good to come out of this World Cup possibly is it highlights the hypocrisy and the corruption in the world.
unfortunately in 6 weeks it will probably be all forgotten so as you were everyone nothing to see here.
Congratulations to Uruguay hopefully got them in the pub sweepstake

I don't see any positive changes coming from this in Qatar but one small benefit is organisers know how much scrutiny future decisions will be under and the accompanying corruption that goes with it.

 

[McFlash]

Agreed. If he had a spine he would have, but he doesnt. Just like the rest of the footballers. Their football adventure is more important to them.

It should never be in Qatar but I don't blame players for going. They don't get many chances to represent their country in a world cup, so why should they give up that chance?
This could be Kane's last world cup.

Any blame falls squarely on the powers that be, who agreed to this all those years ago, when most of these players were kids.

 

[yiddopaul]

It should never be in Qatar but I don't blame players for going. They don't get many chances to represent their country in a world cup, so why should they give up that chance?
This could be Kane's last world cup.

Any blame falls squarely on the powers that be, who agreed to this all those years ago, when most of these players were kids.

As has been pointed out already, some things are more important than football. I don't care if it's a 'great honour' to represent your country. If these virtue signalling millionaire footballers truly cared about the human rights issue, they would sacrifice their international football in protest.

 

[McFlash]

As has been pointed out already, some things are more important than football. I don't care if it's a 'great honour' to represent your country. If these virtue signalling millionaire footballers truly cared about the human rights issue, they would sacrifice their international football in protest.

If that's the way you feel, then fine.
I direct my anger towards those that made the decision in the first place, not the players.

It's easy to sit and cast aspersions on these "millionaire footballers", while not understanding how passionate they may be about representing their country in a game that they love.

 

[yiddopaul]

If that's the way you feel, then fine.
I direct my anger towards those that made the decision in the first place, not the players.

It's easy to sit and cast aspersions on these "millionaire footballers", while not understanding how passionate they may be about representing their country in a game that they love.

I agree, the decision to go in the first place was wrong. But the players have a choice, they have free will and if just one of them had the nads to pull out, more would follow. And not one person would critisize them, quite the opposite.

To say we may not understand the passion to represent your respective country, is completely ignoring the fact... some things are more important than playing a game. But as you say, my opinion. But football doesn't come out well from any of this.

 

[Freddie]

As has been pointed out already, some things are more important than football. I don't care if it's a 'great honour' to represent your country. If these virtue signalling millionaire footballers truly cared about the human rights issue, they would sacrifice their international football in protest.

That's like saying you can claim to care about homelessness but unless you open your home to the homeless you're just virtue signalling. It's not fair to put that on people.

 

[yiddopaul]

That's like saying you can claim to care about homelessness but unless you open your home to the homeless you're just virtue signalling. It's not fair to put that on people.

Not remotely the same. The footballing world is making billions out of this on the back of terrible human rights to get this off the ground. Not to mention their treatment of other corners of their society.

 

[DJS]

This whole World Cup continues to be a farce tbh.

And just really highlights how scummy and corrupt football now is.

Qatar should never ever have been given it.

And the owners of Newcastle and Man City should also not have been allowed, as well as Roman at Chelsea.

Also good points raised about Kane supporting the arm band, yet would have dropped his morals to go to Man City and be paid with their dirty money.

 

[ralvy]

Didn’t Harry Kane want to sign for City??!

One love = the love for money.

 

[Japhet]

It's amazing how many people who haven't been called up to a world cup squad would take the moral high ground. Coincidentally very few who actually have the opportunity to live out a childhood dream have opted to do the same. The FAs of a few big countries could have got together and taken such a stance but I don't blame individual players for not doing so.

The impetus has to come from somewhere, and if a country's governing body stepped in, all players from that country would have to comply. That seems a bit heavy handed. But if just one player made a stand I'm pretty sure others would join in and it then makes a much more powerful statement in my opinion.