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[DogsOfWar]

I agree with a lot of that but you said a lack of investment had nothing to do with last nights result or others this season - that is incorrect

We could have always spent more but, for me, it's more to do with the quality of those we have bought in the last three years or so.
30 million on Sissoko, 40 on Davidson Sanchez, 25 on Aurier, 17 on Janssen, 8 on GKN.
Thats 120 million which should have been more than enough to replace an aging Dembele and Jan, a backup for Kane, and a wantaway Walker.
Our first team is not as good as it was three years ago and I feel it has more to do with poor use of the money we had rather than the amount.

 

[dontcallme]

We could have always spent more but, for me, it's more to do with the quality of those we have bought in the last three years or so.
30 million on Sissoko, 40 on Davidson Sanchez, 25 on Aurier, 17 on Janssen, 8 on GKN.
Thats 120 million which should have been more than enough to replace an aging Dembele and Jan, a backup for Kane, and a wantaway Walker.
Our first team is not as good as it was three years ago and I feel it has more to do with poor use of the money we had rather than the amount.

I agree. There was a time when we were praised for our transfer strategy.

We bought players like Carrick, Bale, Berbatov and Modric, helped develop them and get several good seasons out of them then sell at a profit and reinvest.

Whatever our transfer setup is at the moment it is not the best.

 

[RichieS]

We could have always spent more but, for me, it's more to do with the quality of those we have bought in the last three years or so.
30 million on Sissoko, 40 on Davidson Sanchez, 25 on Aurier, 17 on Janssen, 8 on GKN.
Thats 120 million which should have been more than enough to replace an aging Dembele and Jan, a backup for Kane, and a wantaway Walker.
Our first team is not as good as it was three years ago and I feel it has more to do with poor use of the money we had rather than the amount.

Absolutely. People went on for ages about how we "didn't replace" Carrick or Berbatov when in fact we spent fuckloads of money on replacements who turned out not to be good enough. The club supported Poch when he wanted Walker out, but the only way there really was down (no better right back was available to us at the time no matter how much we spent).

I agree. There was a time when we were praised for our transfer strategy.

We bought players like Carrick, Bale, Berbatov and Modric, helped develop them and get several good seasons out of them then sell at a profit and reinvest.

Whatever our transfer setup is at the moment it is not the best.

I don't think the selling of those players was praised at all. In fact it was used as a stick to beat the club with (even by our own fans). How times have changed - now when we refuse to sell our want away top players (Eriksen, Alderweireld) we're still in the wrong! Levy can't win! He must be one thick-skinned mofo.

Levy did make a catastrophic error when he said the stadium build wouldn't affect transfer funds. That said, I doubt that even in his wildest dreams (nightmares?!) did he imagine that the whole thing would cost the best part of £1bn. That's a mental capital expenditure for a business the size of a football club.

 

[dontcallme]

Absolutely. People went on for ages about how we "didn't replace" Carrick or Berbatov when in fact we spent fuckloads of money on replacements who turned out not to be good enough. The club supported Poch when he wanted Walker out, but the only way there really was down (no better right back was available to us at the time no matter how much we spent).

I don't think the selling of those players was praised at all. In fact it was used as a stick to beat the club with (even by our own fans). How times have changed - now when we refuse to sell our want away top players (Eriksen, Alderweireld) we're still in the wrong! Levy can't win! He must be one thick-skinned mofo.

Levy did make a catastrophic error when he said the stadium build wouldn't affect transfer funds. That said, I doubt that even in his wildest dreams (nightmares?!) did he imagine that the whole thing would cost the best part of £1bn. That's a mental capital expenditure for a business the size of a football club.

No but the buying of those players was. Didn’t you prefer it when we bought players teams wanted than having a lot of expensive players we can’t sell?

 

[Gassin's finest]

I thought Walker wanted Walker out?

 

[Graysonti]

They are an investment company and have improved us MASSIVELY since they took over, they aren't a sugar daddy, they wont bank roll us I get it. But no sugar daddy would have bought us at the time when Sugar was selling cause we were 1, shite and 2, fucked financially. I am well aware of what ENIC are, but a lack of investment was not the reason for getting tanked last night, or the reason we got fucked over by a Division 2 side or why we have gave up games in winning situations.

Have to agree with this 100%

If we are talking about winning the league or CL, then let’s talk about ownership.

But the current shit nothing to do with ownership - that’s at the managers/players door. They are not getting away with it.

Investment was decent in the summer and we have a squad that should finish 3/4 in league, get out of CL group and have a decent domestic cup run. Now if that is not enough, then talk ownership. But we have definitely spent enough for those targets.

 

[RichieS]

No but the buying of those players was. Didn’t you prefer it when we bought players teams wanted than having a lot of expensive players we can’t sell?

I did and I agree with you. You win some, you lose some I guess. Even when we were buying Modrić and Bale, we were also buying Bentley and Bent.

 

[RichieS]

I thought Walker wanted Walker out?

As soon as he made that known, Poch had him out the door, no? I'm not saying it was the wrong thing to do but the only possible result was that it would weaken the team, if only temporarily.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

As soon as he made that known, Poch had him out the door, no? I'm not saying it was the wrong thing to do but the only possible result was that it would weaken the team, if only temporarily.

He has a clear aversion to having players in the squad who want to leave. He's stuck with at least one, possibly two now. Not Rose and Vertonghen, they've made their views clear.

Pochettino is a major control freak. I don't think he's very good at managing players who are not 100% committed and 100% trusting. It was useful and effective when he was clearing out a crowd of players after he first arrived. But now he's going to have to manage the squad he has, which includes cajoling performances out of players he no longer trusts.

 

[dontcallme]

I did and I agree with you. You win some, you lose some I guess. Even when we were buying Modrić and Bale, we were also buying Bentley and Bent.

True but we got most of our money back for Bent

Just seems we have a higher amount of deadwood players now.

Part of it can be that we are paying higher wages so finding a buyer is more difficult but overall I think our transfer strategy recently is worse.

 

[mkkid]

The chickens are coming home to Roost, I cant understand why players would want to leave the greatest Training ground, Sainburys and the stadium.
Oh they can get paid double else where.

 

[dontcallme]

The chickens are coming home to Roost, I cant understand why players would want to leave the greatest Training ground, Sainburys and the stadium.
Oh they can get paid double else where.

Except they don’t.

 

[mkkid]

walker pays more in Tax than Rose earns, these are Danny Rose own words.

 

[RichieS]

walker pays more in Tax than Rose earns, these Danny Roses own words.

Rose doesn't want to leave...

No club is going to pay Toby and Eriksen double what they've been offered by us.

 

[bat-chain]

I really don’t think money is the issue. It’s scouting and recruitment.

We made huge progress doing it well, we've now fallen backwards because we have struggled to identify and sign good players. Liverpool have made gains doing it well and Leicester too.

We may already be on the right track with N'Dombele, Lo Celso and Sessengon but the recruitment of players like Aurier, Nkoudou, Janssen and N'jie have added nothing, that is why we have regressed we've signed too many duds. When you think 60m on the lot above.

It’s not money, it’s scouting.

 

[dontcallme]

walker pays more in Tax than Rose earns, these are Danny Rose own words.

Kane is on around 200k per week and huge contracts were offered to Alderweireld and Eriksen.

Dumbing this down to us not paying wages is typical of you and complete bullshit.

You’re the kind of person that wants us to pay mediocre talent huge wages then genuinely not understand why we can’t sell them.

 

[dontcallme]

I really don’t think money is the issue. It’s scouting and recruitment.

We made huge progress doing it well, we've now fallen backwards because we have struggled to identify and sign good players. Liverpool have made gains doing it well and Leicester too.

We may already be on the right track with N'Dombele, Lo Celso and Sessengon but the recruitment of players like Aurier, Nkoudou, Janssen and N'jie have added nothing, that is why we have regressed we've signed too many duds. When you think 60m on the lot above.

It’s not money, it’s scouting.

True, but there is a small percentage stuck in a world where we don’t pay high salaries.

 

[mkkid]

Kane is on around 200k per week and huge contracts were offered to Alderweireld and Eriksen.

Dumbing this down to us not paying wages is typical of you and complete bullshit.

You’re the kind of person that wants us to pay mediocre talent huge wages then genuinely not understand why we can’t sell them.

You don't know me at all, you have a opinion and I have mine.
Most thing , I said about the squad is coming true. XX

 

[soup]

True, but is there a small percentage stuck in a world where we don’t pay high salaries.

200k for Kane and N'Dombele (and offered to Eriksen) is pretty high.

 

[dontcallme]

You don't know me at all, you have a opinion and I have mine.
Most thing , I said about the squad is coming true. XX

I have read your posts and you always think doom is coming and all our problems are caused simply by us not spending enough money.