ENIC...

[Who’s our next manager?]

Not a few... no one else really.

There used to be a top 4...... City bought their way into it, we successfully navigated our way into it slowly but surely, and we aren't even bottom of the 'top 6' list anymore.

Not forgetting Chelsea

 

[mumfordspur]

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We are in the Europa Harry .............The Europa

 

[mumfordspur]

Anyway back on topic I hate them.
When they took over loads of fans on my old board posted up what they are and they would have no interest in anything but making profit for themselves.
I hadnt heard of them before Spurs but I see they are fulfilling that prophecy, so well done old board boys who researched ENIC>
I will be raising a glass the day they sell up.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I hadnt heard of them before Spurs but I see they are fulfilling that prophecy, so well done old board boys who researched ENIC>
I will be raising a glass the day they sell up.

And so you should because, whether you hate them or not. If/when they sell up, they'll not only be leaving a club that is unrecognisable from the one that they purchased (now a worldwide brand in its own right) they'll also be leaving a legacy that will last for generations.

They can be frustrating! They have made mistakes! We have (perhaps) gone too long without silverware (though lost countless semis/finals). They have seemingly failed to add that last piece of the jigsaw when it looks like we could really push on.

None of that is really undeniable. Then again, neither is the fact that they HAVE also done their fair share of good, too.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Not a few... no one else really.

There used to be a top 4...... City bought their way into it, we successfully navigated our way into it slowly but surely, and we aren't even bottom of the 'top 6' list anymore.

No one else has done it as we did it, true. But, in this context, we're simply talking about owners who have taken their club from nowhere to (near) the top over the past 20 years. In that respect, City have emphatically done it. And I'd argue that Leicester have too - albeit that it remains to be seen whether they can sustain it.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Anyway back on topic I hate them.
When they took over loads of fans on my old board posted up what they are and they would have no interest in anything but making profit for themselves.
I hadnt heard of them before Spurs but I see they are fulfilling that prophecy, so well done old board boys who researched ENIC>
I will be raising a glass the day they sell up.

This is demonstrably wrong on a number levels. But it's all been gone over so many times before. And clearly fallen on deaf ears. So not worth repeating.

 

[buckley]

I heard some woman whose name I did not take note of say " that the club is unrecognisable to the one they took over and are now growing to become a worldwide entity " or words to that effect . She said her only complaint was Lewis because he has the funds to at least one season pump an amount of money Ito the transfer fund which would have a large impact on the club .
She also said he will not and has no intention of doing so probably because he has no real interest in Spurs or football as a whole .
There are other clubs that have owners that are not necessarily fans of the club they own but have put into their club some of their own money because they see the sense that the club will get better there by they will be a more valuable asset.
I think what she was saying is you dont have to be a fan to put some of your own money but if you want to improve your cub on the field you improve your club as a business .
I have often felt that Mr Lewis with his 3 to 5 billion pounds of worth could have at a strategic point in the last 10 years put lets say 100 to 150 million pounds into the club for players out of his own coffers and would have received more than that in return by the club being more successful . Why have Chelsea and Man City become such big clubs in a relatively short space of time its not because worldwide people have suddenly taken a liking to these clubs it is their success on the field of play that has grown their name and brand .
You would think Mr Lewis the tycoon that he is would know this or is it he knows this and is just not prepared to part with any of his own funds and I do know he has put some money into the club but that was regards bricks and mortar not what the man on the terraces wants to see which is investment in the team . You would likely say why should he ? I say it does not make sense not to
This lady by the way was on a podcast .

 

[funkycoldmedina]

I heard some woman whose name I did not take note of say " that the club is unrecognisable to the one they took over and are now growing to become a worldwide entity " or words to that effect . She said her only complaint was Lewis because he has the funds to at least one season pump an amount of money Ito the transfer fund which would have a large impact on the club .
She also said he will not and has no intention of doing so probably because he has no real interest in Spurs or football as a whole .
There are other clubs that have owners that are not necessarily fans of the club they own but have put into their club some of their own money because they see the sense that the club will get better there by they will be a more valuable asset.
I think what she was saying is you dont have to be a fan to put some of your own money but if you want to improve your cub on the field you improve your club as a business .
I have often felt that Mr Lewis with his 3 to 5 billion pounds of worth could have at a strategic point in the last 10 years put lets say 100 to 150 million pounds into the club for players out of his own coffers and would have received more than that in return by the club being more successful . Why have Chelsea and Man City become such big clubs in a relatively short space of time its not because worldwide people have suddenly taken a liking to these clubs it is their success on the field of play that has grown their name and brand .
You would think Mr Lewis the tycoon that he is would know this or is it he knows this and is just not prepared to part with any of his own funds and I do know he has put some money into the club but that was regards bricks and mortar not what the man on the terraces wants to see which is investment in the team . You would likely say why should he ? I say it does not make sense not to
This lady by the way was on a podcast .

From Joe Lewis's perspective if he thought £100m cash injection into the team was a nailed on cert to win us the CL and EPL and send the value of the club soaring he'd have done it but let's face it the bricks and mortar is a much sounder investment than a couple of players scouted by Hitchin and Poch.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

From Joe Lewis's perspective if he thought £100m cash injection into the team was a nailed on cert to win us the CL and EPL and send the value of the club soaring he'd have done it but let's face it the bricks and mortar is a much sounder investment than a couple of players scouted by Hitchin and Poch.

Huge sums of money have been spent on the stadium, not just the actual build but the years spent buying up surrounding properties etc,etc. The stadium is now a cash cow, huge increase in match day revenue, concerts, sporting events, etc. That will create a huge income ,hopefully to find new players.
What happens.....along comes Covid!! Never mind, hopefully things will be back to normal by next season and the original plans will come to fruition.

 

[Japhet]

I heard some woman whose name I did not take note of say " that the club is unrecognisable to the one they took over and are now growing to become a worldwide entity " or words to that effect . She said her only complaint was Lewis because he has the funds to at least one season pump an amount of money Ito the transfer fund which would have a large impact on the club .
She also said he will not and has no intention of doing so probably because he has no real interest in Spurs or football as a whole .
There are other clubs that have owners that are not necessarily fans of the club they own but have put into their club some of their own money because they see the sense that the club will get better there by they will be a more valuable asset.
I think what she was saying is you dont have to be a fan to put some of your own money but if you want to improve your cub on the field you improve your club as a business .
I have often felt that Mr Lewis with his 3 to 5 billion pounds of worth could have at a strategic point in the last 10 years put lets say 100 to 150 million pounds into the club for players out of his own coffers and would have received more than that in return by the club being more successful . Why have Chelsea and Man City become such big clubs in a relatively short space of time its not because worldwide people have suddenly taken a liking to these clubs it is their success on the field of play that has grown their name and brand .
You would think Mr Lewis the tycoon that he is would know this or is it he knows this and is just not prepared to part with any of his own funds and I do know he has put some money into the club but that was regards bricks and mortar not what the man on the terraces wants to see which is investment in the team . You would likely say why should he ? I say it does not make sense not to
This lady by the way was on a podcast .

Probably because he's very good at weighing the relative risks of his investments and prioritises markets he knows and trusts over one which is notoriously unreliable.

 

[yankspurs]

From Joe Lewis's perspective if he thought £100m cash injection into the team was a nailed on cert to win us the CL and EPL and send the value of the club soaring he'd have done it but let's face it the bricks and mortar is a much sounder investment than a couple of players scouted by Hitchin and Poch.

Football isn't art or yachts. That’s why there is no chance he ever invests his own money in the club.

 

[yankspurs]

Huge sums of money have been spent on the stadium, not just the actual build but the years spent buying up surrounding properties etc,etc. The stadium is now a cash cow, huge increase in match day revenue, concerts, sporting events, etc. That will create a huge income ,hopefully to find new players.
What happens.....along comes Covid!! Never mind, hopefully things will be back to normal by next season and the original plans will come to fruition.

Huge sums of money that the club needs to repay the banks on (now added to that debt is the Covid loan the club took).

 

[Japhet]

Huge sums of money have been spent on the stadium, not just the actual build but the years spent buying up surrounding properties etc,etc. The stadium is now a cash cow, huge increase in match day revenue, concerts, sporting events, etc. That will create a huge income ,hopefully to find new players.
What happens.....along comes Covid!! Never mind, hopefully things will be back to normal by next season and the original plans will come to fruition.

It was typically (dare I say) Spursy to unveil the best stadium in the World in the year that a global pandemic closed every sporting event down to attending spectators.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

I'm curious to the anti-ENIC people which owners they think are putting their own money into the club. Abramahovic, Man City and Moshiri at Everton who will probably be looking for a return but I can't think of anyone else

 

[buckley]

Leicester / Wolves / Sheffield United / to name but a few certainly more than uncle Joe tho they are not as rich .
You hit the nail on the head when you mention he does not see profit and that is my point brilliant as what ENIC has done it is all done with the view " how much can I make back in this investment " Fortunately I grew up watching spurs when under the ownership of the Richardsons our most prosperous time regards trophies but the obviously were spurs fans to the supporters benefit .
I expect we will never see at our club owners willing to fund the club to gain success shame really .
Still when Joe retires he will have another billion or so to hand on to his offspring . Oh goodee Goodee gumdrops .
Comparative to my investment as a 76 year old man going since 1951 paying tickets then later season tickets for myself and my sons and more than a few hundred pounds on merchandise plus travelling the length and breadth of the country to support the club I think my investment comparative to what I have earned is by far greater than Joe Lewis plus he will receive a massive payout for his investment my payout is the memories which I would not swap for anything but financially has cost me heaps compared to my modest earnings this also stretches to bank loans to pay for tickets . So stop going on to me about how wonderful Enic are as I dont see it that way .
They are an investment company that is going to make a lot of money out of Spurs ownership END OF.
They do not in my eyes have the club a t heart but £££££££££

 

[yankspurs]

It was typically (dare I say) Spursy to unveil the best stadium in the World in the year that a global pandemic closed every sporting event down to attending spectators.

It doesnt much more peak spursy than that and we’ve managed to finish 3rd in a 2 horse title race race with leicester & us?

Tottenham Hotspur. What a club. I love us.

 

[Beni]

I think Levy has done amazing for this club if you look at the big picture on where we were to now, and how we have managed to achieve champions league for the first time ever, and then again 4 seasons in a row.
Yes, the transfer window drives me mad with him, and yes I do think the decline of the squad last couple of seasons I put majority of the blame on him, however that aside doesn’t mean I want him gone.

For me, the infrastructure is now in place, and this should enable us to compete now at the top table, and these next few years for me, is now the time to judge on whether the off the field status can be now matched on the field, and we are competing on and off.

 

[shelfboy68]

This is demonstrably wrong on a number levels. But it's all been gone over so many times before. And clearly fallen on deaf ears. So not worth repeating.

I agree that it just goes around in circles with no side of the fence ever winning the argument.
FWIW I don't hate levy but I am no Fanboy either, the business side of the club from infrastructure and the world record profit achieved a couple of seasons ago was incredible no doubt.
But on the pitch it has been a vastly different story underachievement and near misses continually follows us around.
Levy has a reputation as a skilled negotiater with at times a clever business acumen, but will his legacy stay like that or end with on the pitch success I guess we have a while to find out that.

 

[Danny1]

Congratulations to Daniel Levy on 20 years at the helm of our great club. Love him or hate him there is no doubt that he has moved us up the ladder as a football club. We were a glamorous name, always have been, with great players playing for us such as Greaves, Hoddle, Klinsmann, Gazza etc etc however we had stagnated and become a mid / bottom table club with too many older players on high wages at the time.

Compare that club of 2001 to the club we have today and the differences are vast.
1 - Our stadium & our training ground are the best of the best.
2 - Our marketing, world wide exposure, is up there with the very elite.
3 - Our squad is full of expensive acquisitions with many of them up there with the very best.
4 - Our academy is full of excellent young players who have the perfect place to learn.
5 - Our revenue puts us in the top 8 of clubs in the world.

What Daniel has done over the years has given us the platform for the next 50 years, and it is now that we need to push on and do what all other big clubs do which is win the trophies. With the money coming in, once fans are back in the stadium, we will be in a position to buy the very best and that is down to Daniel.

Has he made mistakes? Definitely, but there isn't a Chairman out there who hasn't. Plenty of people have their gripes with him, however none of us can deny that what he has built has improved us as a club, and it will be his legacy. I, for one, hope we win a major trophy with him at the helm as I think he deserves to see it & I know that he will love & enjoy the moment as much as the rest of us fans.

 

[Insomnia]

I concur with @Danny1 , I think in terms of stadium & training facilities we are worlds apart from when he took over. The romantic in me would like to see if this new revenue & status of the Club can provide a team capable of winning major trophy's and sustaining our position in the global market under Daniel Levy's tenure. I hope he gets a few years to now put the team & the ambitions of the fans first, because he's done the other side of the business brilliantly, he's given us pride in our stadium & our place at the top table, now it's time to build a legacy, teams that can provide a dynasty for the young fans & us dyed in the wool fans. Then we will be Kings.
COYS