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whitestreak

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BTW Samsung are Korea's largest co by a mile. They are family controlled and are a "Chaebol'
When taken as a whole group they have revenue in excess of (over $300B and make 22B profit), and ignoring state owned companies are one of the largest 10 companies in the world by sales and profits.
They would be a great sponsor for the Naming rights and/or Major shirts etc
IMHO They are exactly the perfect deep pocket sponsor that could take us to the moon!
 

Japhet

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BTW Samsung are Korea's largest co by a mile. They are family controlled and are a "Chaebol'
When taken as a whole group they have revenue in excess of (over $300B and make 22B profit), and ignoring state owned companies are one of the largest 10 companies in the world by sales and profits.
They would be a great sponsor for the Naming rights and/or Major shirts etc
IMHO They are exactly the perfect deep pocket sponsor that could take us to the moon!

Sod Bastoni, Gvardiol and Bremer then. All aboard the Kim Min Jai train!!
 

spursfan77

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BTW Samsung are Korea's largest co by a mile. They are family controlled and are a "Chaebol'
When taken as a whole group they have revenue in excess of (over $300B and make 22B profit), and ignoring state owned companies are one of the largest 10 companies in the world by sales and profits.
They would be a great sponsor for the Naming rights and/or Major shirts etc
IMHO They are exactly the perfect deep pocket sponsor that could take us to the moon!

Well, Levy has gone out there, so maybe he’s going to meet with some businesses. When we went to Sydney a few years ago he, Cullen and Vivian Lewis met with Aussie property companies about the stadium and wider development as a mate of mine was in a meeting with them (he said they came across as not really knowing what they were doing in terms of development). So they do use these tours for other aspects to do with the club.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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I really hope ENIC do not sell naming rights for the stadium to Samsung , you just know what opposition fans will call it " The Play It Again Samsung Stadium "
 

Nerine

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A lot of things didn't pan out last summer. Some of it was bad fortune, some was poor management decisions under time pressure. In the end, they appointed what was basically a caretaker and then pounced at the right moment, when their original choice re-emerged.

I doubt very much that securing Conte mid-season was a plan, but I also doubt very much that anyone in the hierarchy, especially Levy and Paratici, deluded themselves into expecting Nuno to work out as a long-term appointment. They had their eyes open and, when results and morale deteriorated past a tolerable point, they re-contacted Conte and jumped.

It's much more useful (and realistic) to look at these things across a 21-year perspective. People tend to focus on Lasagnegate, or Autumn 2008, or the January 2012 transfer window, or the financial crash and the desperate diversion toward Stratford, or the AVB bore-fest, or the Champions League final, or last summer's manager-go-round as if they were strategically important.

They weren't. They were mainly hiccups, in some cases more like spasms or seizures - obstacles that needed to be overcome in the context of a consistent plan to turn a neglected former giant back into a football power and vastly increase its asset value, while winning more football matches and eventually trophies.

I work in housing development, so the need to weather unexpected disasters and overcome obstacles, while keeping your eye constantly on the end objective, is something I'm unusually familiar with. You can't do development if you have a short attention span. You need to treat every diversion or obstruction as something susceptible to a solution. Sometimes it takes 6-7 years to get your project completed. You just keep figuring out ways to go over, around or straight through the obstacles.

After taking over, it took Levy and Lewis less than 3 years, I think, to realise that nothing momentous was going to change at Tottenham unless they could build a new stadium. From that point, it was always a long-term plan - 20 years. Several times, we were ahead of the plan (Redknapp and then Pochettino qualifying for the Champions League before anyone expected) and sometimes (not often) we were behind it (the financial crash and the Stratford/West Ham rip-off/set-up).

Then the stadium was finally finished and we had a pandemic and closed the doors. What do you do? You keep your eyes on the prize, figure out how to weather yet another unexpected storm and keep solvent. Then you go back to the plan.

Now that we have the stadium churning out a different order of magnitude of revenue, the whole club has changed, just as some of us said it would. People have kept using the simplistic cliché "backing the manager" for years, as if we could compete with Chelsea, Man City and the Spanish clubs if only Levy wasn't such a tightwad. This summer, we still keep hearing that at last we are "backing the manager", as if it is the combined influence of Conte and Levy's change of heart that has transformed our strategy.

It's bollocks. "It's the stadium, stupid". We weren't "backing the manager" because we couldn't compete with the other big clubs' wages. Now we can, so we are.

Fans look at this season's results. You can't run a football club that way, unless you have Abramovich or Mansour or the Saudis behind you. You need a twenty-year plan.

A great post, well put. The impulsive fans do not seem to realise/appreciate that our current ownership has had a plan all along, and we are now well placed to take advantage of the plan coming to completion.
 

sundanceyid10

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It is for us as we are fans.
But Levy is a chairman of a £500 million business that is responsible for hundred's of jobs and dozens of different departments.
His primary role is keeping the club afloat, and then growing the club financially to make it stronger.

I've played, coached/managed, at lower senior level and when you see what a chairman is responsible for, even at that level, it gives you a completely different perspective as to what his role is.
We see 11 blokes running around a pitch on a Saturday, he sees the upkeep and maintenance of the ground, the quality of the pitch, sourcing food and drink, employing dozens of stewards, groundstaff, catering people, organising club shops, cleaning the toilets, clearing up the litter afterwards, programme content/printing, arranging sponsors for advertising board, shirts etc. Organising transport to away games etc, and that is just matchday.
When you throw in youth academies, medical teams, sports scientists, gyms, canteens, training facilities, legal dept, financial dept, HR dept, IT dept, sales and marketing, organising events, and a hundred other things I've forgotten it is a truly massive undertaking.

When you see the feedback from practically every aspect of the club, from the food to the quality of pitch, over the last 20 years it is very positive.
When you look at the infrastructure it's ridiculously good.
When you look at the year on year rise in financial results it is massively successful.
And when you look at the true marker of progression on the pitch, average league position, we've improved massively over his 20 years.

And yet, had we won the CL final, we wouldn't be having this conversation as everyone would have agreed he was a success, but we lost and he's seen as a failure.

I just don't subscribe to how the odd 90 minutes of failure in a CL or league cup final can define Levy's tenure.
I don’t disagree but ultimately it is about getting silverware, it maybe be harsh but it is true. I think Levy has done a great job with the stadium and various areas of being a chairman. However Spurs are a football club, and success is ultimately winning something. That maybe harsh on Levy that it comes down to 90minutes here and there, but that’s the game., that’s elite level sport. The club need to get over the line at some point and bring home silverware and ultimately that will be a mark on everyone including Levy if they can’t get it done. I will say the playing field is not exactly level, Man City play with a loaded deck in my opinion but that’s another story.
 
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Timberwolf

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I don’t disagree but ultimately it is about getting silverware, it maybe be harsh but it is true. I think Levy had done a great job with the stadium and various areas of being a chairman. However Spurs are a football club, and success is ultimately winning something. That maybe harsh on Levy that it comes down to 90minutes here and there, but that’s the game., that’s elite level sport. The club need to get over the line at some point and bring home silverware and ultimately that will be a mark on everyone including Levy if they can’t get it done. I will say the playing field is not exactly level, Man City play with a loaded deck in my opinion but that’s another story.
I agree to an extent. I think there are a few notable occasions over the past 10-15 years where that little bit of extra investment in the squad could have pushed us to glory and this is the area where Levy has faltered. Opportunity cost is a huge thing in football, and you need to strike while the iron is hot, but we've tended to be passive in the market and let fantastic chances at silverware slip through our fingers. I don't think we needed to break the bank - just make a couple of big(ish) signings to push on for trophies when we were in a position of strength.

However, by playing the long game we've set ourselves up to be consistent challengers. Any half decent team can go on a lucky run and win a cup, but it takes a lot more than that to become a truly top team that's in the conversation for the league and European trophies. That's what we're aiming for and it feels like we're getting there.

To truly judge the project I think we need to see where we're at in the next 10, 20, 30 years when the stadium money should really make a difference. That will be the true measure of our success.
 

soflapaul

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Valanciayid said
The club us now on a different trajectory, delayed due to COVID. Its now not a question of fighting for top 4 but cementing that position, aiming higher and finally for silverwear.

The club is thinking and acting differently, now the fans need to get in that mindset too
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While there were times this club looked like a disaster from the outside (Olympic Stadium, Nuno, JM), in hindsight, it does look like a well thought out business plan where flexibility was built into the decision making. (if something doesn't work out, do something different). Maybe turning in our BSoDL cards in last summer was premature. Thanks Bubble
 

SonicSarr

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While there were times this club looked like a disaster from the outside (Olympic Stadium, Nuno, JM), in hindsight, it does look like a well thought out business plan where flexibility was built into the decision making. (if something doesn't work out, do something different). Maybe turning in our BSoDL cards in last summer was premature. Thanks Bubble
The shit we have put up with from the ENIC/Levy out brigade. And now they just want to wash it under the carpet ? #Itwasalwaysaplan #BSoDL #Smug ?
 

Spurslove

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I really hope ENIC do not sell naming rights for the stadium to Samsung , you just know what opposition fans will call it " The Play It Again Samsung Stadium "

Even that would be better than calling your home 'The Haemorrhoids Stadium' wouldn't it? The goons must really hate that.
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Delboy75

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Another good article very interesting about Coupang who sponsored the tour basically Korean Amazon. Saw biggest sign ups this month. Be no surprise if they’ve been waiting for this re naming rights.

 

Delboy75

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a bit about the financial aspect of son/korea etc towards the bottom of this loong article


K league game was most streamed sporting event in Korean history is a bit bonkers. As said I’ll be very surprised if levy and Kline weren’t working on big commercial opportunities while there. I wonder how much overflow there is to other Asian countries.
 

wrd

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Hopefully some Korean companies want to take advantage and get amongst the stadium naming rights
 

cliff jones

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Levy has always demanded too much that's why none of the Korean or any other companies have actually bitten. Yes, our pull is certainly greater now, but I'd imagine the price is too.
 
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