ENIC...

[sundanceyid10]

Newcastle will not have carte blanche to spend to anything like the same extreme as Chelsea and City did when they first came into money. Newcastle's turnover (and that of West Ham, Villa, Everton, Wolves et al) is vastly inferior to ours. Sure, they will be able to fudge a few commercial deals from the off but it will still take them some time before they catch us up financially; let alone before they can "massively out invest us".

Our owners may rarely raise capital by any means other than debt. But they have at least overseen a huge investment in infrastructure. And because of the new stadium, we are now in a position to compete with the top clubs financially. It's only because of unfortunate, unforeseeable global circumstances that we haven't yet started to reap the full benefits of that investment.

Well, that and the fact that we have spent a lot, very badly since moving into the new stadium. We won't get anywhere if we waste fortunes on duff players.

But that's equally true of Newcastle....

I’m sorry but I don’t believe that at all, Newcastle if they remain in the Premier league will spend huge. The game is awash with rich owners getting around stuff. Saying Newcastle won’t spend huge is just wish fulfilment. Newcastle will join Chelsea and Man City as grotesque spenders. I don’t like it but the writing was on the wall the moment the Premier League allowed the takeover to go through.

Thats 3 of the top 4. Saudi’s are not buying Newcastle to spend years waiting to join the top.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I have my opinion on ENIC and especially Levy , which I won't bother repeating (although seeing them still being defended beggars belief) BUT, for now, lets wait and see because it's reached tipping point now. If Conte walks away then I can't see how anyone at all can continue to make excuses for it and I can't see how he would survive the backlash

 

[Armstrong_11]

i am disappointed with myself...

i actually thot with Conte, the board will back him and get him the players he wants in early. its like 6 days till the window shuts and we are still sitting on our asses.

i know transfers are complex and takes time.... but i wont be surprise that we bring in some desperate signings to replace those that we were planning to get off the books.

what an idiot i am for thinking this transfer window would be different.

If Conte walks, the board better walk away too.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Have no idea how's the supposed takeover/naming rights/buying of stake has gone when all positivity just a month ago pointed to a grander scheme of things to come. If it has gone cold due to investors backing out, I'm quite amazed the club has not put contingency plans in place to execute accordingly in order of urgency. Surely this is not something they only act whenever any investor shows interest and wash their hands off letting the proposal sit when on one is keen right?

 

[sausage]

I don’t think most sensible posters would expect us to be spending like Chelsea or City. What I expect is joined up thinking and a sense of strategy. At the moment we’ve hired a “win now” manager who’s extremely volatile when he doesn’t get backed in the transfer market at a time when it seems we’ve got no real genuine rnoney to spend. It just seems like we’re heading for combustion.

People are just making their own conclusions there though. Whether that's to validate a pre-existing opinion is another thing, but people wanted DL to stay out of transfers and so Paratici is brought in. They want Conte to be backed, and there's stuff happening.

No one actually knows or even has the slightest inkling as to what Conte feels about it or wants, but plenty are concluding that he doesn't want they players they don't want, and wants the ones they do, and is somehow unhappy that he hasn't got big expensive signings now now now.

It's projection, nothing more. Crazy for anyone to suggest that the footballing side is a mess though, when you look at the league. Everton are spending like Chelsea or City and are an actual mess. United aren't spending and missed out on Conte. City don't as of yet have a striker. Why should spurs be somehow be expected to be getting absolutely everything right, and doing things that other clubs can't. I don't understand that entitlement.

 

[sundanceyid10]

I have my opinion on ENIC and especially Levy , which I won't bother repeating (although seeing them still being defended beggars belief) BUT, for now, lets wait and see because it's reached tipping point now. If Conte walks away then I can't see how anyone at all can continue to make excuses for it and I can't see how he would survive the backlash

Amen to that ??

 

[Kaboul'sForehead]

I have my opinion on ENIC and especially Levy , which I won't bother repeating (although seeing them still being defended beggars belief) BUT, for now, lets wait and see because it's reached tipping point now. If Conte walks away then I can't see how anyone at all can continue to make excuses for it and I can't see how he would survive the backlash

Agree with the sentiment of what you have said. I would also agree with your bewilderment if people continue to make excuses for it.

But disagree that Levy and ENIC wouldn't survive the backlash. He would definitely survive the backlash, as the finances would still be in good running order regardless of whether his name is a crusty skidmark in the minds of most fans.

The Levy ejector-seat button is, in my opinion, ultimately and exclusively a club buyout.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Why has the paratici thread been moved to “transfer rumours”?

this website is so fucking dumb sometimes it can’t come as a surprise users keep leaving.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Have no idea how's the supposed takeover/naming rights/buying of stake has gone when all positivity just a month ago pointed to a grander scheme of things to come. If it has gone cold due to investors backing out, I'm quite amazed the club has not put contingency plans in place to execute accordingly in order of urgency. Surely this is not something they only act whenever any investor shows interest and wash their hands off letting the proposal sit when on one is keen right?

It shouldnt really matter. ENIC are sitting on a minimum 1bn asset appreciation on their investment, almost certainly more like 1.5bn
If they wanted to find 100m to buy this window they could, extra investors or not
If they don't its because they're acting as they always have. Profits, prudence and property before players, points and trophies

 

[Delboy75]

I appreciate it’s difficult to do deals in January but clearly it’s not impossible. Have been plenty of big PL signings completed in January. Just astounds me Levy couldn’t see the need to make 1 statement signing to at least make believe he’s backing Conte. Even one £40m + and a couple of loans and I’m sure most would have been happy.

 

[dontcallme]

I appreciate it’s difficult to do deals in January but clearly it’s not impossible. Have been plenty of big PL signings completed in January. Just astounds me Levy couldn’t see the need to make 1 statement signing to at least make believe he’s backing Conte. Even one £40m + and a couple of loans and I’m sure most would have been happy.

What makes you think on this occasion, Levy is the reason?

Surely this is Paratici's job to identify obtainable targets.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

What makes you think on this occasion, Levy is the reason?

Surely this is Paratici's job to identify obtainable targets.

I think our attempts to do a loan deal for Traore suggest that we have no money to spend.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Why has the paratici thread been moved to “transfer rumours”?

this website is so fucking dumb sometimes it can’t come as a surprise users keep leaving.

The reasons have been repeated every time you have this whinge so I won't bother again. But if we're 'so fucking dumb', don't buck the trend, feel free to join the exodus.

 

[dontcallme]

Why has the paratici thread been moved to “transfer rumours”?

this website is so fucking dumb sometimes it can’t come as a surprise users keep leaving.

Yeah, there's hardly anyone left.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Agree with the sentiment of what you have said. I would also agree with your bewilderment if people continue to make excuses for it.

But disagree that Levy and ENIC wouldn't survive the backlash. He would definitely survive the backlash, as the finances would still be in good running order regardless of whether his name is a crusty skidmark in the minds of most fans.

The Levy ejector-seat button is, in my opinion, ultimately and exclusively a club buyout.

I’d agree with that

When your Chairman sacks a serial winner a week before a chance of silverware in a Cup Final and gets very little backlash I don’t see a ‘falling out’ with Conte as being a game changer (unfortunately)

It was the final straw for me and I gave up my ST (which I’ve had since God was a boy)

Yes, a few more thousand won’t renew but most will and they’ll be joined by more ‘newbies’ and tourists

Our fan base is not particularly radical or anywhere near as militant as others and because our finances are in good order, we have a lovely shiny new stadium and a state of the art training facility most supporters will continue to go with the flow

Love is blind, for a very very very long time….

 

[sundanceyid10]

I’d agree with that

When your Chairman sacks a serial winner a week before a chance of silverware in a Cup Final and gets very little backlash I don’t see a ‘falling out’ with Conte as being a game changer (unfortunately)

It was the final straw for me and I gave up my ST (which I’ve had since God was a boy)

Yes, a few more thousand won’t renew but most will and they’ll be joined by more ‘newbies’ and tourists

Our fan base is not particularly radical or anywhere near as militant as others and because our finances are in good order, we have a lovely shiny new stadium and a state of the art training facility most supporters will continue to go with the flow

Love is blind, for a very very very long time….

And then all that was followed by the Nuno debacle.

 

[shelfsidespur]

I think our attempts to do a loan deal for Traore suggest that we have no money to spend.

Given that the majority on here think Levy doesn't know his arse from his elbow could it probably be a good idea to "try before you buy"

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

The reasons have been repeated every time you have this whinge so I won't bother again. But if we're 'so fucking dumb', don't buck the trend, feel free to join the exodus.

the reasons are still fucking dumb

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Yeah, there's hardly anyone left.

Compared to what it used to be, it’s comparatively a ghost town.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

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