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IfiHadTheWings

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Where do you get off? Are you really serious? Pedantic for what? Sarcasm personified.
To be honest although it is pedantic if you want something to be taken seriously you should really try and present it in the most professional manner you can.

posts on a forum/social media etc whatever but if you are trying to create a movement I'd say spelling etc is important. (not as important as the message of course)
 

Trix

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.

And I was told these kind of silly protests have no impact...

#ENICOut
 

sundanceyid10

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.
Sad state of affairs though, if they only want to spend money to save their own necks rather than genuinely wanting to do it of their own volition and a genuine desire rather than being pressured.

Nothing will change. Smoke and Mirrors Levy, short term fix. Been here a million’s times.
 

Trix

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And I was told these kind of silly protests have no impact...

#ENICOut
It's having an effect because the mainstream media are asking the same questions now. All that negativity isn't good when you are trying to sell the stadium to investors and for massive televised events.
 

sidford

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.
Apologies but what article is being quoted here?
 

Darth Vega

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For those of you calling for ENIC out, do you have a plan or wish as to what/who you want them replaced with?
It doesn't even need to be a new owner, the bare minimum should be to have Levy step aside and let Paratici do his job. Obviously not every penny can go into the first-team squad directly but just hand over the reins to Paratici (which is what we thought was happening when he came in) and let him get on with it.

You've got two of the three men that helped put a club like Juventus back on the map so just trust that they know what they're doing and let's see where it takes us. If it fails then at least we can dissect it properly and look at where the manager has fallen short or where Paratici went wrong, as opposed to recent years' "yeah well we had a great manager, we never properly backed him, he ultimately failed and then we did it all over again with the next guy".
 

fishhhandaricecake

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.
See I knew that Levy/ENIC would pick up on the ‘noise’, I really don’t get people who say the singing and protesting against levy doesn’t make a difference, it absolutely does as does things like O’Hara on sky sports and the THST calling out the board for their ambition, none of it can do any harm and at best it will make them loosen the pursestrings a little more ?.

They/Levy’s response to THST or the fans or the media whenever questioned about the clubs ambition on the pitch is always “look at our recent net spend”, yes mate but

1) Its not enough spend for us to properly compete and we have the means to spend more! £

2) we keep having to spend more to undo the mess that Levy keeps causing due to the scatter gun approach to manager hires and player recruitment

3) we’ve won fuck all in 20-25 years under ENIC and everytime we get even close they close up their wallets like a fucking clamshell. Redknapp wanted Tevez and Cahill and he got Saha and Tevez, AVB wanted Moutiniho and others and he got a load of dross, poch got us to a CL final and the squad went so stale and had no depth then we hired 2 managers who were a bad fit and we’ve still not properly replaced any of : Rose, Walker, Trippier, Toby, Jan, Dembele, Eriksen about 4-5 years on.

It’s mismanagement of the highest order and “look at our recent net spend” doesn’t and won’t cut it anymore.
 
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mil1lion

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For those of you calling for ENIC out, do you have a plan or wish as to what/who you want them replaced with?
Personally I don't want ENIC out but want Levy to step away from our transfer business. I want ENIC to keep to their job title assigned to Paratici and let him take control of transfers. I want Levy to stick to the business side of the club and let Paratici to work with Conte and get the players he wants. As long as ENIC provide sufficient funds to strengthen the squad as they did last year. We just need another year like last to complete the rest of the squad.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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For those of you calling for ENIC out, do you have a plan or wish as to what/who you want them replaced with?
ENIC are fine we just need Levy completely 1,000% away from the football side of the business and install a chairman who wants to push the boat out and win things and who gets the right people internally to set us up to play good football and to be successful in all football areas : academy, player recruitment ins and outs, manager hires, scouting network etc etc.
 

sammy1882

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Personally I don't want ENIC out but want Levy to step away from our transfer business. I want ENIC to keep to their job title assigned to Paratici and let him take control of transfers. I want Levy to stick to the business side of the club and let Paratici to work with Conte and get the players he wants. As long as ENIC provide sufficient funds to strengthen the squad as they did last year. We just need another year like last to complete the rest of the squad.
Is it possible to have this with Levy remaining as chairman though? I don't think you could achieve getting him away from being involved in transfers/football decisions contractually and I wouldn't trust a gentleman's agreement type deal either. I agree it's Levy that needs to change more than ENIC. The whole board needs replacing/reshuffling IMO.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Personally I don't want ENIC out but want Levy to step away from our transfer business. I want ENIC to keep to their job title assigned to Paratici and let him take control of transfers. I want Levy to stick to the business side of the club and let Paratici to work with Conte and get the players he wants. As long as ENIC provide sufficient funds to strengthen the squad as they did last year. We just need another year like last to complete the rest of the squad.
Unfortunately, Levy being anywhere at the club will always result in doubts as to who exactly is in charge of what, is he getting his sticky little fingers involved and all sorts of uncertainty. I think it's fair to assume he can't help himself, anyway, IMO he won't give up that sort of control so we find ourselves in the situation where the best thing for the club is that he goes. Proper goes. None of this cosmetic stuff, not now, the time for that has long since past. It's unfortunate for him and it's unfortunate for us that we're where we are with it all, it's a shitty situation all round.

As much as I want him to, I don't think he'll go and I don't think he'll step aside from the football side and the ghosts of transfer windows past, present and future ain't gonna bring about some sort of Scrooge like epiphany either. I think that short of someone buying the club, we're probably stick with him. I so hope i'm wrong.
 

Wils

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"There appears to be real concern growing at the top table regarding the negativity at recent games and on social media."

Keep it up guys and gals, at the very least it may mean we spend more to ease the tension.
Glad to hear they are sitting up and taking notice

#LevyOut
 

mil1lion

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Is it possible to have this with Levy remaining as chairman though? I don't think you could achieve getting him away from being involved in transfers/football decisions contractually and I wouldn't trust a gentleman's agreement type deal either. I agree it's Levy that needs to change more than ENIC. The whole board needs replacing/reshuffling IMO.
I don't see why not. He seemed to step aside more last year but for some reason noises are that he's getting involved again. At the end of the day he still is employed as the chairman and if Lewis wants to hand transfers to Paratici he can. Its pretty pointless to have a form of football director if the chairman is the one making calls on transfers. Levy can still sign off to ensure we're not overspending but if it's a player Conte wants and is in our budget it should be a no brainer. The philosophy around transfers has to change and we need to act more like a big club. I feel Levy still has the old stadium mentality and can't get used to big spending now the new stadium is open. We should be able to flex our muscle now and compete with the rest. We need more players for now and not always one for the future with sell on value etc.
 
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