Eric Dier

[jonathanhotspur]

ha...Yeah must be rubbish if Bayern were interested!

I never said he was rubbish. And neither do we know for sure if that was a fabrication on the part of his agent or not. However, what we can safely say is that he has lost his favoured position to Wanyama.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Told he's not overly happy playing a utility role, and thinks he needs to be playing CM/DM to get a regular International slot. The noises are not as loud as they are with Walker, but this is not just paper talk. Another one worth keeping half an eye on.

I get what he is thinking, but I think he is over-thinking it. As long as he is getting regular time on a team competing for the top-4, managed by Poch - England will find a place for him...

 

[DCSPUR]

If that's the case I can see him staying. Tonight's formation has him centre of the back 3 which could be Poch's way of appeasing him as he is likely player to push forward when we attack....

yes, there isn't actually a massive difference from being the DM who drops back and splits the 2 CD or the middle of a 3 CD who comes forward. Actually the later role could be the best place for him. Sees the whole pitch. Also, if England is the Q, what better chance than staying with us? Go to Utd and Maureen could bench him!

Finally, he has said this previously:
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-a-top-player-like-philipp-lahm-a3381021.html

 

[DCSPUR]

I get what he is thinking, but I think he is over-thinking it. As long as he is getting regular time on a team competing for the top-4, managed by Poch - England will find a place for him...

also unlikely that Levy/ Poch would sanction a move and doesn't sound like he will push for it

 

[DJS]

Told he's not overly happy playing a utility role, and thinks he needs to be playing CM/DM to get a regular International slot. The noises are not as loud as they are with Walker, but this is not just paper talk. Another one worth keeping half an eye on.

It's a tricky one as Wanyama has been doing so well in defensive midfield.

And not always good for players to becoming utility man / master of nothing.

Bit worrying you're hearing this too as previously you've said only Walker has question marks over - I just hope Rose isn't next to have a wobble...

 

[Trix]

It's a tricky one as Wanyama has been doing so well in defensive midfield.

And not always good for players to becoming utility man / master of nothing.

Bit worrying you're hearing this too as previously you've said only Walker has question marks over - I just hope Rose isn't next to have a wobble...

Heard nothing regarding Rose , but I do know he is very close to MP.

 

[diamond lights]

Makes teams tick? Luka Modric makes teams tick. Christian Eriksen makes teams tick. Eric Dier does nothing of the sort. He is every bit a central defender playing in midfield.

I have no idea why Pochettino picks him all the time. I had previously speculated that he was trying to appease him when those Bayern rumours began to surface, as a matter of fact.

When I say makes teams tick I am not talking about a playmaker but players like Graham Roberts, Roy Keane, Gary Mabbutt....not flashy but essential. Like salt in your food, you often don't notice it until it's not there. Essential ingredient.

 

[DJS]

Heard nothing regarding Rose , but I do know he is very close to MP.

Phew...

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Told he's not overly happy playing a utility role, and thinks he needs to be playing CM/DM to get a regular International slot. The noises are not as loud as they are with Walker, but this is not just paper talk. Another one worth keeping half an eye on.

He's being silly. Get a grip Dier. Look at this incredible team that you are a part of.

 

[Yid-ol]

Dier to move.....lovers tiff with dele?! ......yeah right!

 

[thelak]

Kind of strange he is worried about getting into the England team given a)England are rubbish so he should walk into the team on that basis and b) seems like Southgate is going to try the same formation that we have been playing so again should we well set

Think he has got it the wrong way round here if that is really the case. His versatility is a huge attribute and he should back himself and see it as a credit to his ability that he can so seamlessly play in different positions and give us that tactical flexibility.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Kind of strange he is worried about getting into the England team given a)England are rubbish so he should walk into the team on that basis and b) seems like Southgate is going to try the same formation that we have been playing so again should we well set

Think he has got it the wrong way round here if that is really the case. His versatility is a huge attribute and he should back himself and see it as a credit to his ability that he can so seamlessly play in different positions and give us that tactical flexibility.

Yeah doesn't make sense. He'd walk into that team as a cb and as a cm. Plays every game at Spurs and plays in the cl.

Folks just want more money, none of this I need to a play a certain position to get into a shite England team managed by a rodeo clown. Or I need to move to be closer to Sheffield because it's soo far away from London and can only be reached by horseback

Money

 

[sam1972]

Heard nothing regarding Rose , but I do know he is very close to MP.

The players call Rose Poch's son

 

[SpartanSpur]

Kind of strange he is worried about getting into the England team given a)England are rubbish so he should walk into the team on that basis and b) seems like Southgate is going to try the same formation that we have been playing so again should we well set

Think he has got it the wrong way round here if that is really the case. His versatility is a huge attribute and he should back himself and see it as a credit to his ability that he can so seamlessly play in different positions and give us that tactical flexibility.

Yeah I agree and think this will be ironed out. Obviously what Utd are arguing about DM is making him think (as well as wads of cash). End of the day he is undoubtedly one of Poch's most trusted/important players, a key cog in a very good, constantly improving team. If you are capable of playing as starting CB and DM in a title challenging side then utility player is not correct, you are just a bloody good player. Poch even lauds his development and importance to the side. I don't see why DM is more glamourous than CB. Both key roles. Poch spared him from makeshift RB today which should be a good sign for him. He gets in for England either way, and the way we switch roles now he has multiple proficiencies that arguably make him even more likely to get into the starting XI for England!

John O'Shea at Utd was a classic 'utility player', never in the best XI but could fill many gaps. Dier plays pretty much every single game, I don't see how that reflects poorly on him. It's not like he's missing out on charging forward and getting goals that way, he usually tucks into a 3 anyway. In fact the switch today could be even better for him than RCB going forward.

 

[rocklink]

Told he's not overly happy playing a utility role, and thinks he needs to be playing CM/DM to get a regular International slot. The noises are not as loud as they are with Walker, but this is not just paper talk. Another one worth keeping half an eye on.

Vert n toby play as a full back in their national team. So what so wrong if he plays as a cb in club level? This is lame excuse

 

[Danners9]

Vert n toby play as a full back in their national team. So what so wrong if he plays as a cb in club level? This is lame excuse

if only the England team was as imaginative as the Belgian side.

For years they have taken players out of the system they play on weekends and into this completely new, odd, boring system to suit one or two instead of building the team around a core of players from one team. Kane on corners. Rooney in midfield. No surprise if some players feel they have to play one role if that's how the England manager will see them.

 

[mickdale]

I agree with you. Levy doesn't have to bridge the gap, but he does have to show them a bit of good faith. To say - look we're close to the new stadium - I can't offer you 175k a week yet but I can give you £120k and then we talk again once we move in.

I really hope his comment to the Trust about the players being happy to sign their current contracts, and that they wouldn't get a pay decrease for a poor season was just a bit of flat-batting so that the agents don't knock down his door in a stampede.

so then Levy should pay himself a good salary, bearing in mind that we are a work in progress, and once the stadium is finished and the wonga is rolling in then he can pay himself a kings ransom.... hang on he already pays himself the top salary of all the premiership clubs including those with much higher turnovers. i dont blame him getting his money as i think hes worth it, but "do as i say not as i do" would be the defence of the players agents...

just a thought

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

if only the England team was as imaginative as the Belgian side.

For years they have taken players out of the system they play on weekends and into this completely new, odd, boring system to suit one or two instead of building the team around a core of players from one team. Kane on corners. Rooney in midfield. No surprise if some players feel they have to play one role if that's how the England manager will see them.

tbf I would argue if we really have good players they should be adaptable. Portugal won the Euros playing a 442 with Nani and Ronaldo upfront - neither of those players play in a 442 for their club sides or as classic strikers. So i've never really subscribed to this bullshit cliche of 'playing players in the positions they play for their club sides'.

 

[Danners9]

tbf I would argue if we really have good players they should be adaptable. Portugal won the Euros playing a 442 with Nani and Ronaldo upfront - neither of those players play in a 442 for their club sides or as classic strikers. So i've never really subscribed to this bullshit cliche of 'playing players in the positions they play for their club sides'.

just for clarity, it isn't my cliche. It's the mentality which has held the England squad back and wasted good players over the years. And with that in mind, it isn't a surprise the players feel they have to nail down a position.

 

[danielneeds]

just for clarity, it isn't my cliche. It's the mentality which has held the England squad back and wasted good players over the years. And with that in mind, it isn't a surprise the players feel they have to nail down a position.

Mabbutt was a classic instance of someone regarded as a utility player because he could play CB and DM early in his career and his international career suffered.