European Super League Mega Thread

[Aphex]

Basically Perez confirms what I said about revenue streams...

 

[bubble07]

Because the league is on the verge of kicking the clubs out - and will then blame the clubs for abandoning the league.

These clubs are not asking to leave the league

 

[adamsky]

I just can’t see how the ESL can work alongside domestic leagues. So many of the games will have no tension as there will be nothing to play for. The second half of the season will be full of dead rubbers once the title is decided or down to a two horse race.

I think either we go on as we are or the ESL has to replace the premier league, play a full season home and away. Every game would be big, similar to how it is in the NFL.

I personally prefer this doesn’t happen, especially as the PL is already so good, but it makes more sense than this half and half they are suggesting.

 

['O Zio]

Klopps response has been disappointing. As long as him and his players continue to play and not speak about it they are protecting the owners in all of this.

Harsh to be honest.

Theyre in the unfortunate position of having all this happen on the same day as they be got to play the one and only match and do all the pressers associated with that despite not being really involved in the decision in any way.

I believe them when they say they weren't told about it I'm advance because the super League won't have wanted any of it to be leaked ahead of time.

They presumably don't know the details and repercussions any more than we do but they've had a camera shoves in their face and are being expected to publicly call out the guys who pay their wages. Not a nice position to be in for anyone really.

 

[George94]

Basically Perez confirms what I said about revenue streams...

This is absolutely the worst thing he could have said.

 

[dirtyh]

amazed they managed to keep this under wraps tbh. it's clearly been in the pipeline for months, incredible it didn't leak out.

 

[EssexSH27]

Are Sky not going to get TV rights for the new league? I guess not as this is about clubs running their own TV channels or selling rights individually. Me thinks whatever the ins and out of the ESL Sky have a vested interest in stopping it.

The PL has only been around a few years, football existed before and will after. The CL is a new competition replacing the long standing European Cup. Is the ESL just a new development of this?

Who's to say they won't bid. They lost the CL rights despite bidding 1 billion. Owned by an American giant and have their own streaming device linked in peacock. If Dazn comes in the loser in this might just be the customer who's gotta find another £20 each month for a further subscription. They aren't going anywhere. Huge machine.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Gary Neville needs to go have a lie down

 

[Yiddo100]

amazed they managed to keep this under wraps tbh. it's clearly been in the pipeline for months, incredible it didn't leak out.

2018

 

[mrlilywhite]

Does anyone actually have any suggestions why this is a good idea except for “sticking it to sky” like I keep seeing, because I cannot

It's not a good idea - that much is abundantly clear. The thing I keep coming back to is the 'why?'. I can see the lure of money, but I've heard from some Spanish outlets, that the very existence of the Madrid and Barca are perilous, and I'd assume the same for the Italian clubs too. That also got me thinking about us & how and why we'd want or need it too and I can only come up with the conclusion that if we didn't take the chance, we too could be in a dire situation. I have no reasoning behind my opinion, apart from a huge dead weight of a stadium that needs paying for, as well as the cost of our complete infrastructure. If the PL was diminished with the expulsion of the clubs in the SL and we declined the invite, then the PL would be a much less financial solution. In essence, we, as well as the other clubs simply can't afford not to be in it.

 

[mill]

 

[mr ashley]

Do you not understand that this proposal would kill football as we know it? And regardless of if it goes ahead or doesn’t the fall out and ramifications are going to potentially be massive.

These 6 clubs ours included have utterly fucked what was a perfectly fine sport. Yes money was dominating it too much but this closed shop ESL idea goes against everything football is about, if you can’t see that or don’t care about that then I feel sorry for you genuinely.

90% of fans are against it, the 10% are not proper fans of the game and have no care or understanding.

Well no, quite rationally I’ve put forward my own view that a great deal of what people are saying has “killed football” has already been happening for years. I’ve also explained that it isn’t just the 6 PL clubs who are driving this.
I’ve also repeatedly stated that the no relegation setup is what people are objecting to- and that I agree with that.

I don’t think anyone has tried to argue against the lack of relegation/closed shop ESL setup being wrong. But some posters have tried to point out that this has been edging ever nearer to this kind of tipping point for a while now, and it’s gone under the radar of a lot of people.

But yet again we’ve got another thread full of vitriolic melodramatic waffle (and yours wasn’t the only post full of it btw)
‘Footballs finished’
‘It’s disgraceful’
‘I’m done with football’
‘I’m ashamed to be a spurs fan today’
‘We deserve all the punishment we get’
‘it’s disgusting’
‘ it makes me sick’

And all sorts of other ott comments.

Feel sorry for me all you want. Maybe it will help you calm down. But don’t start suggesting that I’m not a fan of the game because I’m not shouting elaborately at how today is the day football died.

This sport hasn’t been ‘utterly fine’ for a long time. I think as a club we decided ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’ a long time ago.

 

[Ndombers]

I dunno. It's all already been bought and paid for by the Man Citys and Chelseas, what difference does it make? I always thought it would be great if Man City and Chelsea fucked off to a super league and left the rest of us to compete in the EPL without them. Just a bit of a shocker that we're one one of the clubs to form the breakaway

 

[jonnyrotten]

They should fuck the big six off. Premier league is fucked anyway, at least they would have the chance to rebuild around history and fan culture again. As long as the big six are in the ESL and the prem, then it will be forever devalued.

 

[LSUY]

Basically Perez confirms what I said about revenue streams...

Maybe if these clubs weren't seriously considering paying a 20-year-old Norwegian £600,000 a week they wouldn't be in bad financial situations.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It’s fucking pathetic that none of the people behind this thing have come out to face the press, and the managers and players of these clubs have been hung out to dry - kept in the dark until the very last moment and then forced to answer questions about it in live interviews on a match day.

 

[C0YS]

All the indignation from Sky is merely about protecting their investment and profits.

Everyone is at it. Same with UEFA, corrupt as hell, they earn billions from the top 6 clubs and all. The pandemic has made these clubs realise actually their revenue streams are really precarious and they've had enough. They want to be in control of their own commercials.

UEFA are corrupt, but they don't earn billions. Recently they've actually operated on a small loss, some money might be stifled into peoples pockets, but it's not billions. UEFA is just the collection of footballing associations. Who actually runs UEFA. Members of domestic associations. Including David Gill, who used to run man utd. Until the other day, Angelli was on the executive board of UEFA too, to represent clubs. The super league do not represent clubs they represent very few clubs that have been bullying other clubs as well as UEFA itself to its own demands, to detriment of footballing associations and smaller clubs.

UEFA are not a great organisation, but people keep talking about it without a single clue of what UEFA actually is, and the relationship that these clubs actually have with UEFA, which is not, btw, that of powerless agents being oppressed by big corrupt UEFA. That's a crap narrative.

 

[yankspurs]

Maybe if these clubs weren't seriously considering paying a 20-year-old Norwegian £600,000 a week they wouldn't be in bad financial situations.

Exactly. Woe is me! Fuck off Tino

 

[TheRevolution]

Maybe if these clubs weren't seriously considering paying a 20-year-old Norwegian £600,000 a week they wouldn't be in bad financial situations.

Ding ding ding! He's the stupid bollox who got his club in that mess. Also maybe if all of these suits weren't on multi million euro salaries and bonuses. Honestly it's a fucking disgrace how Barcelona and Real Madrid, the 2 biggest money makers in the sport, can be in so much debt, and we want these clowns to run football?

 

[Nerine]

The “Big Clubs” wouldn’t be in this “financial mess” if they were a bit more sensible.

Spurs have been very well run in comparison.

Sounds like a lot of clubs are seeing this as a bit of a get out of jail free card.

Levy is fucked either way really. If it goes ahead you want/need to be involved to remain competitive. If it doesn’t then it’s business as usual.

I would think that Daniel has agreed based on the (potentially unlikely) event that this all happens.

In that situation, you’re looking at years of hard work and investment being for largely nothing if the teams you directly compete against are now so well heeled you don’t stand a chance.

We’ve built the right way. It’s only through negligence that the other clubs haven’t and find themselves being desperate for this sort of cash injection.

That said, clubs go into administration if they are poorly run. Why should that very fundamental rule of business not apply to Barcelona, Real Madrid et al??

We’ve managed ok throughout.