Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

News outlets running stories now of his departure not sure if it’s all stemmed from talksport

where?

 

[Russ1201]

Here is my thinking, maybe just maybe, Levy was like you know what - Poch was right, we needed the rebuild, he was the man for it - I shouldnt have let him go and I regret my decision.

I dont hate Conte, I dont not like Conte, im indifferent. I am a realist and dont think he was ever right for this job nor was Jose and certainly not Nuno. I think Levy was going for the win it now manager, wrongly may I add, and spending half a billion is and never was the way we should go about it.

I agree and he should of backed Poch when we were only a couple players from a great chance to winning something. Or even the last season when it was clear we needed a large rebuild.
The problem is we are a long way from where we were then and can Poch do the same again. Without a peak Kane, Sonny etc.
The team has still a lot of the same players that let him down last time and i'm sure will do again. There is a lot worse choices than Poch but is he the right choice now with this aging team I dont know?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Depends if he even wants to be here. I don’t think he does so if that’s the case, pull the band aid off now

If he didn't want to be here, he would just leave. He's proven he's willing to do that at other clubs if he's unhappy. I dunno what would be stopping him doing it here.

 

[Russ1201]

It's all a bit transparent, innit? Though, my belief is that Conte's staff will stay with the team until the end of the season. With both he and Mason in charge.

Feel a little sorry for the players. But, who knows what their feelings are as far as Conte goes?

Question is whether Stellini and Mason will switch things up. Or just stick to Conte's tactical approach.

Agree with you, I think the players and Levy let Conte down in the end.
Unfortunately I think Conte gave up to due a lot of reasons.beyond anyone control.

 

[H-SF]

Levy, the board and Paratici (if he’s involved) will 100% fuck up the next managerial appointment. And when they do we will be screwed.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Levy, the board and Paratici (if he’s involved) will 100% fuck up the next managerial appointment. And when they do we will be screwed.

Again. We will be screwed again.

 

[G Ron]

I do share your concerns. This squad has spent a good few years playing passive football, it won’t be easy to turn that around quickly

Particularly with us desperately lacking creative midfielders. With Bentancur fit I’d feel more confident, but without him I just don’t see it.

 

[Hotspur33]

Particularly with us desperately lacking creative midfielders. With Bentancur fit I’d feel more confident, but without him I just don’t see it.

Yep agree. We would probably have to rely on Kulu or Kane in the 10 position.

although I would say Poch would probably be very happy with Bentancur and Bissouma tandem

 

[spursfan77]

I think fans like myself are blinded by the most exciting, successful enjoyable period of my lifetime supporting spurs.

This is what I’ve just been thinking. He got espanyol, southampton and us playing great football at different times. It’s not like he’s only done it once, so he can do it again. I didn’t really see his psg team so no idea what they were like.

We are all here to enjoy watching our team win, aren’t we? I can’t remember the last time I was properly excited to go and watch the football over a period of time. I’m not sure it’s even happened that many times in the new stadium (except the first game and the scum game last season) and I’ve been to 90% of the games there since it has opened. That never happened under Jol, redknapp or maybe even under AVB.

None of it was as dull as it’s been over the last 3 years. We know Poch can deliver that bit of feel good excitement. So what if it goes tits up in two years time. By now we are all due a bit of fun and excitement at games. That’s why I pay to go to games.

 

[Mr Pink]

Honestly, If Conte wants out we might as well get some fun back into the football.

We're going to be going round in circles with our 'ambition' while Levy is still in charge anyway.

 

[septicsac]

Here is my thinking, maybe just maybe, Levy was like you know what - Poch was right, we needed the rebuild, he was the man for it - I shouldnt have let him go and I regret my decision.

I dont hate Conte, I dont not like Conte, im indifferent. I am a realist and dont think he was ever right for this job nor was Jose and certainly not Nuno. I think Levy was going for the win it now manager, wrongly may I add, and spending half a billion is and never was the way we should go about it.

Could not be further from the truth imo. What you suggest in the first paragraph is Levy accepting he was actually wrong in a decision, he will never own up to that, the recent response to the Trust clearly shows how removed he is from how people actually feel.
He might own up to money being spent poorly, but even that will be someone else's fault.
He might reappoint Poch, but unless they change their ways at board level, come up with a clear plan and invest where it is needed then nothing changes and 22 yrs show that this is unlikely to happen.
He might appease some fans temporarily but more and more are seeing through his smoke and mirrors.

 

[JCRD]

Could not be further from the truth imo. What you suggest in the first paragraph is Levy accepting he was actually wrong in a decision, he will never own up to that, the recent response to the Trust clearly shows how removed he is from how people actually feel.
He might own up to money being spent poorly, but even that will be someone else's fault.
He might reappoint Poch, but unless they change their ways at board level, come up with a clear plan and invest where it is needed then nothing changes and 22 yrs show that this is unlikely to happen.
He might appease some fans temporarily but more and more are seeing through his smoke and mirrors.

He may not own up to it to us, but interanlly we dont know. Im speculating as we all are. In regards to the response sto the Trust, I dont think there was anything wrong with it, the responses were always expected, its business and is at odds with the fans emotions.

I agree though that they, Poch and Levy and Paratici even, all need to be on the same page. We have all had enough and I cant imagine Levy has not had enough of this too - ultimately it does cost money in transfers and firings.

 

[DiVaio]

We haven’t regressed. We’ve had extremely bad luck with injuries all season. Our full fit 11 have only played a handful of times together.

Last season since he came we were averaging 2 points per week and we were the 3rd best team in the league. This season overall we are 5th with averaging 1,7 points per game. Or 12th with 1,23 points per game since half of October and United game. This is clearly regressing. Last season we also had injuries and worse squad depth. Even with our fully fit 11 we were playing worse than previous season.
Table proves that we have regressed, eye test proves that we have regressed, data proves that we have regressed.

This is such a simplistic argument I hear over and over, do you think Conte chose Perisic over any wing back in the world or he chose Perisic has he had to stay within ENICs spending parameters of wages and higher fee amounts only on players when they are young with sell on?

How many similar signings like him happened at Spurs in last decade or at Juve when Paratici was their director of football? Not a lot. On the other hand, Conte has a history of preffering and signing older and more experienced players instead of younger. So yeah, considering he was also his player at Inter I think he was his first choice.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

How you can say this with such conviction is really baffling. He did some great things for us but also has serious flaws (many of which are levelled at Conte).

- Stubborn
- Takes too long to make subs
- Reluctant to drop / withdraw big players despite form (this was often apparent with Dele and epitomised in the FA Cup semi final where he played Son at LWB and dropped Davies so as not to upset one of the big names)
- Not great tactically
- poor record in identifying and signing players (Sess, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Osvaldo etc)

I seriously believe many supporters are blinded by the Romance of a Poch return and forgetting how it all unravelled last time.

He did more than any ‘elite’ manager we have had since

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I always wanted to give Conte a chance and I still think we can salvage the season.

However some of his decisions are now looking quite bizarre. I could accept not playing Spence as he sees him every day in training, I can understand supporting some of your players during a bad spell, especially experienced ones.

But his continuous use of Son and Peresic is baffling, I could understand it when Richy was injured and we hadn't signed Danjuma. We have options now and not only is he not giving them game time, he seems to be deliberately obstructing certain players from playing.

Porro playing in his first game alongside Tanganga (played 67 minutes of premier league football this season) away to Leicester was either incredibly arrogant or naive.

He rotates Lenglet and Davies all the time but point blank refuses to rotate Son and Kane.

He is Poch level slow at making changes during a match. And let's be frank, some (most) of the football has been putrid.

His formation is not changing at all even though it's not working. He is the most inflexible manager I have ever seen.

When we are playing shit we need to change how we play or the personnel, but he doesn't seem to have done that all season apart from when injury forces it.

He did superbly last season, but this season it just hasn't worked and it seems like he has no answers. He has one play and cannot adapt to the opposition.

Hopefully the manager search and the decision won't be a monumental balls up like last time. He has until the end of the season, but I'd be surprised if he makes it.

 

[piedpiper]

How you can say this with such conviction is really baffling. He did some great things for us but also has serious flaws (many of which are levelled at Conte).

- Stubborn
- Takes too long to make subs
- Reluctant to drop / withdraw big players despite form (this was often apparent with Dele and epitomised in the FA Cup semi final where he played Son at LWB and dropped Davies so as not to upset one of the big names)
- Not great tactically
- poor record in identifying and signing players (Sess, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Osvaldo etc)

I seriously believe many supporters are blinded by the Romance of a Poch return and forgetting how it all unravelled last time.

Geez balance it with the good. Can't disagree with those negatives but hell he got us playing.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

How you can say this with such conviction is really baffling. He did some great things for us but also has serious flaws (many of which are levelled at Conte).

- Stubborn
- Takes too long to make subs
- Reluctant to drop / withdraw big players despite form (this was often apparent with Dele and epitomised in the FA Cup semi final where he played Son at LWB and dropped Davies so as not to upset one of the big names)
- Not great tactically
- poor record in identifying and signing players (Sess, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Osvaldo etc)

I seriously believe many supporters are blinded by the Romance of a Poch return and forgetting how it all unravelled last time.

if you're looking for a perfect manager I've got bad news for you. This is what Levy tried to do after Poch, he went after two of the biggest names in world football for managers. Both have failed. Sometimes you don't know what you've got until it's gone, pochettino was that man

 

[olliec]

if you're looking for a perfect manager I've got bad news for you. This is what Levy tried to do after Poch, he went after two of the biggest names in world football for managers. Both have failed. Sometimes you don't know what you've got until it's gone, pochettino was that man

The CL run papered over the cracks. We were on a big decline that season. Poch also had one of the strongest spurs team I’ve ever witnessed and still didn’t win anything. I don’t know why we are so happy to move backwards. Conte has had a retched year and I don’t think many of us are taking that into consideration. I would love to see him come back after he’s recovered feeling fresh, and ready to take us forward.

 

[C-oops]

The CL run papered over the cracks. We were on a big decline that season. Poch also had one of the strongest spurs team I’ve ever witnessed and still didn’t win anything. I don’t know why we are so happy to move backwards. Conte has had a retched year and I don’t think many of us are taking that into consideration. I would love to see him come back after he’s recovered feeling fresh, and ready to take us forward.

Yeah well ITK has said he's leaving so the point is moot

 

[olliec]

Yeah well ITK has said he's leaving so the point is moot

ITK isn’t always right. Let’s wait and see.