Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[easley91]

How can you question someone's commitment when they had emergency surgery and returned before he should have done?

He has had friends die and a medical situation of his own. He's allowed to be selfish.

 

[neogenisis]

The fact that you question it every day is a reflection on you and your bias against Conte.

He has had serious emergency surgery and attempted to come back to the touch line early (looking like death) and you’re questioning his commitment? GTFOH

No bias at all. If he commits, he is committed and we go again.

 

[Jamturk]

Stellini's remark that he and Mason take responsibility for the team now will have gone down well imo.

So just maybe we'll see some flexibility from the management pair teamwise.

Looking forward to this partnership, maybe the players will feel a freshening effect, a mini new manager bounce.

I'm intrigued.

I'm quite sure that Conte still picks the team.

 

[gavspur]

There me already one made

Yoda?!

 

[Goobers]

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him on the bench at Leicester and think he should take a proper amount of time to recover. That means proper recovery and rest. I don't get how he can believe he will be fighting fit in a fortnight or whatever is being mentioend tonight. It's absurd. I get the man is committed and passionate but this feels a little bit odd and perhaps he needs those around him to make sure he is right to come back when he does. He doesn't strike me as the type of man who could perform "amended duties".

 

[Trotter]

I'm quite sure that Conte still picks the team.

That depends.

If we win and play well some people will say, it was all Conte still, others will say look what happens when Conte is not here.m, we are a lot better.

On the other hand play badly
The people that would have said it was all Conte if we did well, will say it had nothing to do with Conte and on the other hand those that would say it is fuck all to do with Conte when he is not here would say cannot just remove the shit that Conte has inbred into them.

My view, this is no longer Contes team, he will not be there at training, in all likelihood he will not be picking team (he didn’t by his own admission when he missed the Man City game) and the players in all likelihood won’t see this as Contes team. They probably see same as most fans, Conte is gone at end of season, and we may not see again anyway.
I think we will see a much more relaxed, less error prone team in the short term

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Conte was backed. More so than any other manager has been here. Although many will (correctly) argue he wasn’t backed enough, he was backed enough to improve on our performances last season which ended up being a pretty high level. Instead he’s taken us backwards.

I’m not someone who famously cares for negative ratings but It blows my mind that people are seriously disagreeing with this. Everything I’ve said is factually correct. What have I said here that is so disagreeable? Are there honestly some Conte acolytes on this forum who don’t think he’s taken us backwards since last season? What on Earth are you watching?

 

[Dan Stallworthy]

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Pin this to the homepage please

 

[spurs mental]

I’m not someone who famously cares for negative ratings but It blows my mind that people are seriously disagreeing with this. Everything I’ve said is factually correct. What have I said here that is so disagreeable? Are there honestly some Conte acolytes on this forum who don’t think he’s taken us backwards since last season? What on Earth are you watching?

I totally know where you're coming from, and I understand where you're coming from. There isn't anything that I can disagree with.

However, and this has been done to death already in this thread, I can also see why we've gotten worse.

Mounting injuries, unable to rotate properly due to the injuries, lack of game time between our best XI(no more than 10 games all season together, probably a lot less tbh). Losing Ventrone hit the squad hard, hit Conte hard. Players out of form because of a number of things like injuries and not back up to speed eg Kulu. Lloris throwing it into his own net on more than a few occasions, the team not trusting him or the defence as a result leading to us playing deeper and deeper.

We absolutely should be doing better even in those circumstances but there are plenty of reasons why we are doing poorly vs last season too.

 

[piedpiper]

Am I the only person here who thinks the death of 2 colleagues in the football industry by Conte is overplayed by posters. he's painted as this fragile rmotionsl wreck which is just absurd.

 

[only1waddle]

I’m not someone who famously cares for negative ratings but It blows my mind that people are seriously disagreeing with this. Everything I’ve said is factually correct. What have I said here that is so disagreeable? Are there honestly some Conte acolytes on this forum who don’t think he’s taken us backwards since last season? What on Earth are you watching?

I think it's quite a balanced view to be honest.

 

[spurs mental]

Am I the only person here who thinks the death of 2 colleagues in the football industry by Conte is overplayed by posters. he's painted as this fragile rmotionsl wreck which is just absurd.

It's not overplayed. It's a very real reason to feel down and feel removed from things, hard to feel motivated.

I can't speak for anyone else but I lost 2 family members in the last 12 months and I cannot even begin to tell you how challenging getting out of bed in the morning is on a lot of occasions.

 

[Trotter]

I totally know where you're coming from, and I understand where you're coming from. There isn't anything that I can disagree with.

However, and this has been done to death already in this thread, I can also see why we've gotten worse.

Mounting injuries, unable to rotate properly due to the injuries, lack of game time between our best XI(no more than 10 games all season together, probably a lot less tbh). Losing Ventrone hit the squad hard, hit Conte hard. Players out of form because of a number of things like injuries and not back up to speed eg Kulu. Lloris throwing it into his own net on more than a few occasions, the team not trusting him or the defence as a result leading to us playing deeper and deeper.

We absolutely should be doing better even in those circumstances but there are plenty of reasons why we are doing poorly vs last season too.

You do realise minute lost wise we have been one of the luckiest with injuries this season don’t you ?

yes it hurts that at times a player and their understudy have both been out simultaneously l, but every team gets injuries.

to say we can ignore Contes failings this season due to injuries is just stretching things to the extreme and burying your head like an ostrich, just pretending things aren’t haopening

 

[spurs mental]

You do realise minute lost wise we have been one of the luckiest with injuries this season don’t you ?

yes it hurts that at times a player and their understudy have both been out simultaneously l, but every team gets injuries.

to say we can ignore Contes failings this season due to injuries is just stretching things to the extreme and burying your head like an ostrich, just pretending things aren’t haopening

I literally said in the same post and have consistently said throughout this thread, we should be doing better?

I have never said we can ignore things. All I've done is give reasons as to may be why we aren't doing as well as last season. No head burying here.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Pin this to the homepage please

Why? It’s completely irrelevant to Conte’s time here.

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

AC Milan owner wants conte. Where’s conte now?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Why? It’s completely irrelevant to Conte’s time here.

Agree mate. Conte has been backed fairly reasonably tbh, probably more so than any other previous manager.

 

[Dan Stallworthy]

Why? It’s completely irrelevant to Conte’s time here.

I said the home page, not the Conte thread.

Regardless of whether it's Conte or another manager, it's the same process.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Kjaer said 'we all knew what we had to do to stop Tottenham'. That wasn't Kjaer talking about Dier having a brainfart, or like he had some crystal ball with visions of Forster making a howler or Davies making a clumsy challenge, it was because of Conte's predictable tactics and what they'd seen for weeks prior to the game and worked on them against us.

I'd say that attacking a bit more at least it gives us more options than just defend. We've recently seen the players talking up what a dangerous game it is to take on the mighty Leicester toe to toe and how we should be careful, suffer and don't make any mistakes. We practice all week in training to set up that way so we don't concede and stay tight. We work all week on keeping the opposition out and prioritise that over any attacking play. Result is, we look devoid on any attack and concede 4 goals.

Do you think we'd have lost 4-1 had we gone toe to toe with Leicester with exactly the same players? You could argue 'but hindsight!', but Conte also has the benefit of hindsight when he puts the next team out, yet he never uses it!

Different games call for different set-ups and whilst we wouldn't have the tools to go toe to toe with City every week we'd at least see different options and tactics. At the moment it seems we're scared of everyone and no one is at all scared of us.

Probably helped that Kjaer was allowed to get away with 4-5 bookable tackles on Kane, while Dier was booked for his first one too to be honest... ?

 

[bubble07]

Conte says he bases line ups on training so if he isn't present at training how can he pick the team

He needs to give full control to his assistants whilst he recovers