Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[fishhhandaricecake]

Again isn't that what the board are supposed to work out prior to appointing a manager. Like I said we all knew what he'd require, why didn't they? Why has he been asking for another CB for 2 windows and why did we release a statement saying we'd drawn down £150mil to get him these signings and then put £50mil back in the bank? That right there buys us a quality left sided CB, and regardless of whether Conte stays or goes we have needed one since Jan left. Mourinho wanted a CB he got Rodon, Conte wanted a CB he got Lenglet on loan. He wanted a RWB Levy decided it was going to be Spence. He wanted a RWF he got a LWF on loan. That is not backing a manager. You can't just look at the net spend it has to be players that both fit the need and the manager can use.

I'm surprised conte hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram then as he's done so with more backing than this.

 

[iddebu52]

Antonio, Antonio, etc etc etc thousands have sang his name out. Wonder if a few of them are scribbling on here!!!

 

[cjsimba]

Well I'll just repeat again, they made a public statement saying they had made £150mil available through a shares issue, and then put £50mil of that back in the bank without making a big public statement about it. You can all make your own minds up about why but the fact is the money was there for a CB and we just chose not to spend it. It's not even a case that it's because we are waiting for a specific target that is available in the next window so we've kept our powder dry. That money is now gone as far as spending it on players is concerned!

There couldn’t be a clearer sign that Levy has no ambition to have us challenge than this.

It’s not a case of negotiating too much on a deal that we eventually lose out on through penny pinching, or choosing a cheaper player over a manager’s preference. He’s literally chosen to assign a large chunk of available money to non-footballing endeavours (ie. Returning it to the bank) rather than spending it on strengthening the playing staff in a position that is fundamental to taking our team up a level.

Unbelievable.

 

[Trent Crimm]

That's right. We know of several journalists who have accounts on here and it's very very likely there are more. That's not to say SC is their only source, they probably lurk on other forums as well.

But people are going to ignore that and carry on slagging their 'research'

As long as Isabel Oakeshott isn’t one of em eh ?

 

[carpediem991]

There couldn’t be a clearer sign that Levy has no ambition to have us challenge than this.

It’s not a case of negotiating too much on a deal that we eventually lose out on through penny pinching, or choosing a cheaper player over a manager’s preference. He’s literally chosen to assign a large chunk of available money to non-footballing endeavours (ie. Returning it to the bank) rather than spending it on strengthening the playing staff in a position that is fundamental to taking our team up a level.

Unbelievable.

I mean you have nowhere near enough insights to say that? Why are so many losing perspective. If there would be no ambition at all why take out that money in the first place and actually spend 100m of it on new players? Why agree to sign a 60m back up striker? Why agree to spend 40m on a specific RWB in winter?
Maybe the extra 50m were there for a CB, but Paratici and Conte failed to bring up an attainable target?

I don't get why people ignore we made quite a lot money available for transfers while obviously still moving in our limits and budget. Should we be sorry for not doing a Chelsea or City spending?

Why isn't the focus more on HOW the money was spent since Conte and Paratici took over? I believe in actually decent players who Conte fails to get the best out (yet). I guess when Conte and Levy hold taks Conte was made assurances he will be backed (what i think we mainly did, maybe we could have pushed more here and there). But also I fully believe Conte made Levy also assurances he can work with a lot of the squad and didn't tell Levy I'll take Kane and Son and want nine new starters....

 

[bubble07]

Under peak poch didn't he say winning trophies isn't important but finishing top 4 is?

How do we all feel about that?

 

[rossdapep]

What about what Sonny said?

We gonna ignore that?


Forward Son Heung-min said Conte's return will give Spurs an "amazing boost" against Milan.

"I am glad the manager is sitting next to me," Son said.

"When he was not here the staff did a good job, but yesterday we could feel his energy and passion again.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If we're going to back a manager to the extent you are suggesting (How long is a piece of string) because in my opinion Conte has been backed why don't we back a manager that plays football the way most Spurs supporters would like the game played with this indeterminate amount Conte needs?

Because I have to confess when these takeover rumours emerged one of my first thought's was that I wouldn't want Conte in charge with any major investment into the team.

Agree with all of this post but the first bit especially.

The two managers I wish we'd backed to the hilt were Redknapp and Poch.

Now I know Redknapp thought he was nailed for the England job and that messed things up a bit but once it was known he wasn't getting it I think we should've knuckled down and properly backed him, he wasn't perfect but he was building a brilliant team, he recruited sensibly and well and the football we played at times was incredible and the crowd loved it.

Poch as we know was a miracle worker, 3-4 incredible amazing seasons and then he and the squad ran out of steam but if he'd be properly granted the painful re-build he asked for then who knows if that would've given him enough energy to refresh him perhaps.

Backing Jose and Conte (especially Jose) was just wasting time and money IMO throwing money at a manager and style of play the fans aren't going to buy into.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I think Conte is a problem, and I think some of our issues are down to him for sure, there's no disputing that. But, somewhere along the line the outright disdain for Levy (warranted) has somewhat shifted to Conte. You can see it anywhere you look on here, Social Media, etc. "Just get him out of the club" was synonymous with Levy, and still is, but that same comment is now following Conte. Where before it was getting behind Conte at all costs, that's a distant memory. I'm not saying Conte is blameless, he absolutely is. But it's just weird to me that if Conte goes, and the absolutely best-of-the-best manager comes in, nothing will change. At all. We have a much bigger issue than a managerial problem and I think we've lost sight of the forest for the trees, a bit. Levy is the root of our problem. He's a great businessman, but terrible when it comes to running the footballing side of a club. I think it's important to keep it all in perspective, too. Antonio is gone; it could be Thursday, it could be the summer. There's really no sense clambering for his departure - that effort has to be put towards Levy. Seems so dramatic but it really feels like that's our only hope.

 

[Albertbarich]

What about what Sonny said?

We gonna ignore that?


Forward Son Heung-min said Conte's return will give Spurs an "amazing boost" against Milan.

"I am glad the manager is sitting next to me," Son said.

"When he was not here the staff did a good job, but yesterday we could feel his energy and passion again.

I think and want him to go and at the end of the season but I'm relatively confident we can have a good end to this one.

The champions League whilst seems far fetched but we're good enough to give anyone a game if we're on it and if we're knocked out that leaves us in just one competition and that's when he thrives.

 

[carpediem991]

Agree with all of this post but the first bit especially.

The two managers I wish we'd backed to the hilt were Redknapp and Poch.

Now I know Redknapp thought he was nailed for the England job and that messed things up a bit but once it was known he wasn't getting it I think we should've knuckled down and properly backed him, he wasn't perfect but he was building a brilliant team, he recruited sensibly and well and the football we played at times was incredible and the crowd loved it.

Poch as we know was a miracle worker, 3-4 incredible amazing seasons and then he and the squad ran out of steam but if he'd be properly granted the painful re-build he asked for then who knows if that would've given him enough energy to refresh him perhaps.

Backing Jose and Conte (especially Jose) was just wasting time and money IMO throwing money at a manager and style of play the fans aren't going to buy into.

Not going to be tired to say in his painful rebuild he demanded and got the all time greats Lo Celso, Ndombele, Sessegnon and Clarke. And the year before, where we should have started to replace Dembele properly he apparantly refused most names and just wanted de Ligt or de Jong who were not available.

We probably fcked up by haggling around in the Grealish deal and maybe a few others too, but perspective is needed....

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Based on ITKs on this forum, it is not true. They just did not want to pay for him. That is why 50 mil. was not used.

Depends what your agenda is I suppose because I read ITKs saying money was never the issue with Bastoni. More that Inter are c*nts to negotiate with and Bastoni had no intention of leaving because he’s a boyhood Inter fan and wants to captain the club.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Can you fucking believe the cheek, to smile so much knowing he doesn't have to deal with Levy anymore and we do???

Stellini IN!!!!!

 

[YB123]

Based on ITKs on this forum, it is not true. They just did not want to pay for him. That is why 50 mil. was not used.

We've seen that money talks, for pretty much any player. Look at City, Gooners, even West Ham. If you're involved in Europe or on the verge of big things like Newcastle, if you pay the fee and the wages, the players will come.

 

[spursfan77]

What about what Sonny said?

We gonna ignore that?


Forward Son Heung-min said Conte's return will give Spurs an "amazing boost" against Milan.

"I am glad the manager is sitting next to me," Son said.

"When he was not here the staff did a good job, but yesterday we could feel his energy and passion again.

He did sound genuine too, Conte didn't have him in a headlock!

 

[hero]

Depends what your agenda is I suppose because I read ITKs saying money was never the issue with Bastoni. More that Inter are c*nts to negotiate with and Bastoni had no intention of leaving because he’s a boyhood Inter fan and wants to captain the club.

I rely more on our ITK than on pure imagination of the crowd. Who was your ITK that stated that Bastoni was not attainable?

 

[YB123]

Under peak poch didn't he say winning trophies isn't important but finishing top 4 is?

How do we all feel about that?

Its a key part in why we've won nothing in 10 plus years because as I've boringly said many times. Its all about the dollar. The financials of top 4 will always overrule silverware under this regime.

This is why Poch will return.

 

[TheHodFather]

Under peak poch didn't he say winning trophies isn't important but finishing top 4 is?

How do we all feel about that?

I may well be misremembering but I thought it was slightly different to that and more along the lines of the premier league and the champions league being the only trophies that really mattered.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Not going to be tired to say in his painful rebuild he demanded and got the all time greats Lo Celso, Ndombele, Sessegnon and Clarke. And the year before, where we should have started to replace Dembele properly he apparantly refused most names and just wanted de Ligt or de Jong who were not available.

We probably fcked up by haggling around in the Grealish deal and maybe a few others too, but perspective is needed....

Yea hence my post saying both Levy and Poch need to have learned from previous mistakes.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Under peak poch didn't he say winning trophies isn't important but finishing top 4 is?

How do we all feel about that?

"Again we’re going to have the debate whether a trophy will take the club to the next level. I don’t agree with it. It only builds your ego. The most important thing for Tottenham right now is to always be in the top four."

That's music to Levy's ears.