Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[MR_BEN]

Fucking state of this. How is this productive for the players?

Support the players - but give the manager all the shit he deserves.


to be honest - I’d take a loss on Saturday if it meant he was gone by the time the next game comes

if will benefit the players in the longer term by not having this dinosaur chatting shit about them, or making them play this crap football.

 

[spurs mental]

Support the players - but give the manager all the shit he deserves.


to be honest - I’d take a loss on Saturday if it meant he was gone by the time the next game comes

if will benefit the players in the longer term by not having this dinosaur chatting shit about them, or making them play this crap football.

Actively wanting the club to lose is not supporting the players. Losing does no benefit to absolutely anyone.

Genuinely astonishing at how bias is effecting people's minds about this whole scenario now.

 

[C-oops]

I'm not one of the ones who needs a better of style of football to 'feel something' for starters.

Bet your sex life is fucking bland

 

[Dougal]

Not the fault of the managers about how expensive it is though is it?

I'm sure I'm not alone in enjoying the counter attacking football when it's been in full flow.

I enjoy watching Spurs regardless of what im watching as its a couple of hours escape as you say.

Each to their own though

It’s not personal to the manager. If we don’t like the product, we have the right to complain. Watching Spurs quite often makes me miserable. Not sure how you enjoy that, but as you say, each to their own!

 

[spurs mental]

It’s not personal to the manager. If we don’t like the product, we have the right to complain. Watching Spurs quite often makes me miserable. Not sure how you enjoy that, but as you say, each to their own!

No issue with that.

I just don't get miserable over something I have no control over any more. It doesn't do me or anyone around me any favours. I just try to enjoy the couple of hours I have to myself to watch the club I hate to love. And once its done its on to the next one.

 

[spurs mental]

Bet your sex life is fucking bland

Your missus doesn't complain.

 

[McFlash]

Son - worst seaosn was 4 prem goals in 28 games under Poch (he has 5 in 24 this season) so your statement is factually incorrect. He also had his best ever season in the Prem under Conte last year but I am sure you can invent a reason why Conte had nothing to do with that, but Son's bad form is "100%" on Conte.
Kulu - poor at Juventus - great for a calendar year under Conte - has he just hit a poor run of form or is this the player he really is and why he didn't succeed at Juventus?
Richarlison - yep he's struggling playing second fiddle to one of the best strikers the Prem has ever seen.

Son's worst season under Poch was also his first season, no? The season where he really struggled to adapt to the league and country? So much so that he seriously considered leaving?
It feels a bit unfair to use that as any form of comparison for anything really.

 

[Jenko]

He has to go because of damage beyond repair. I'll be sad to see him go because I like him as a person. But I'll be more sad because I don't have any confidence in the world that the next manager's tenure will be any more successful. Conte was supposed to be the line in the sand. He was supposed to be: "Well if Levy screws this one up, there truly is no hope." I do feel that way still. Despite his pedigree, I immediately rejected Mourinho's appointment and refused to be a part of it because I felt his ship of success had sailed, not to mention my perception that he is a complete and total turd of a man. I didn't, and still deep down do not, feel that way about Conte. It is all just predictable dejection and a sickening acknowledgement of the inevitable screw-up that THFC is.

I liked your post but I do disagree. I believe Conte is the most talented manager we ever had, but he doesn't want to be here beyond this season. He has no intention of playing attacking football, even though he would do that well. He has turned off the drive that made the players play for him. His man management and stubbornness has always let him down.

None of that is anyone else's fault and we have good enough players to stay top 4. So, we've a problem to fix and the choice of manager has to be exciting. We probably need a miracle, but that sums up being a spurs fan in my time supporting them from '85.

 

[MR_BEN]

Actively wanting the club to lose is not supporting the players. Losing does no benefit to absolutely anyone.

Genuinely astonishing at how bias is effecting people's minds about this whole scenario now.

If a win prolongs his stay…. Then I’d gladly take a loss.

I don’t want this guy anywhere near our club for another minute, he is an absolute disgrace after Wednesday night.


it’s not bias at all…

I haven’t enjoyed watching the team all season - even when we win it’s turgid shit. So yes - I cannot wait to move on from him.

 

[TOLBINY]

Son has been woeful this season, in terms of actual possession of the football, and movement. Far worse than when he was adjusting to a new league under Poch. If your single metric is ‘goals scored’ then that’s incredibly simplistic.

Ask yourself why he played so well last season, and what’s changed this season. He’s playing deeper, in a role that doesn’t suit him.

Conte made that adjustment and clearly has done nothing to try and change it, as it’s still the same problem. That’s terrible coaching.

Kulu has regressed, Bissouma couldn’t settle before the injury, Richy is being man managed terribly.

Conte is one of the highest paid managers in the world, he doesn’t want to coach the younger players, shunning Spence, Gil, Skipp, Sarr etc until he was FORCED to use some of them.

What exactly are you defending after the performance last night? It was absolutely bereft of any risk. It was BORING. It was SLOW. We had 2 shots on target. At home. 1-0 down. It happens over and over again, I was all about patience. Him talking shit about the club, ‘Milan are a big club etc’, is utter bollocks. They lost 5-0 to Chelsea over 2 matches this season.

The worst thing is, Conte doesn’t want to be here! Why are you defending a man who has no interest in being at our club?

We don't know for a FACT that he has been offered a new contract - but let's put that to one side.

I am questioning why a serial winner on 15M+ per year doesn't want to be at our club, because I doubt it's a salary issue. More fans on here should be asking that question IMHO.

 

[bat-chain]

I think it is worth remembering at this point that we are fourth in the league. We have been worse in the past and we will be worse in the future. We are not quite at a low point some seem to think we are.

That is not to say Conte has been impressive, but equally I don’t think he has missed expectations as much as suggested here. Certainly not to the point where any of the abuse we see is justified.

In Pochettino's last season, we were not on course to get fourth in the league and indeed we did not achieve it under Mourinho either in his first season, or his second.

Only Conte was able to get us back there, whatever his failings this year, we are close to achieving it again. It is very unusual that he calls for time, while at the same time, refusing to commit to any project, but now we have one game a week why not just see where that takes us?

The impact of losing Bentancur,Lloris, Bissouma and Sessegnon Are also mitigating factors that don’t seem to be being taken into account.

Spurs are a profoundly unlucky club.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Fucking state of this. How is this productive for the players?

Playing like we do lately it’s going to happen anyway. Like towards the end of Nuno’s reign we are the prolonging the inevitable, and by the sound of things the players are starting to want conte gone anyway.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Support the players - but give the manager all the shit he deserves.


to be honest - I’d take a loss on Saturday if it meant he was gone by the time the next game comes

if will benefit the players in the longer term by not having this dinosaur chatting shit about them, or making them play this crap football.

Yep we are now in the position of short term pain for long term gain again.

Some will be like “omg how can you possibly say you want the team to lose”, they fail to see the big picture.

The sooner a suitable replacement comes in the longer they will have to build towards next season. It does no one any benefit meandering towards the end of the season like this even if we did scrape 4th the new manager won’t have had any time to get up to speed so will face a very difficult CL campaign anyway.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Actively wanting the club to lose is not supporting the players. Losing does no benefit to absolutely anyone.

Genuinely astonishing at how bias is effecting people's minds about this whole scenario now.

If losing that one game meant we sack conte and bring in a well thought out manager who therefore gets more time than said manager joining at the end of the summer knowing levy and his fucking about then he’s losing that one game would be beneficial longer term.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It’s not personal to the manager. If we don’t like the product, we have the right to complain. Watching Spurs quite often makes me miserable. Not sure how you enjoy that, but as you say, each to their own!

Spot on mate, we all love and support the club come rain or shine but we’ve had 3 years of an absolutely horrible product on the pitch and we are well within our rights to seek change and better more enjoyable times.

 

[TOLBINY]

Son's worst season under Poch was also his first season, no? The season where he really struggled to adapt to the league and country? So much so that he seriously considered leaving?
It feels a bit unfair to use that as any form of comparison for anything really.

I was pointing out the facts (I even used the word 'factually' if you read my post) but as you brought up the subject of first seasons and settling in perhaps you'd care to explain why Kulsevski's first year in the Prem he was great and now his form has dipped - let me guess- Conte's coaching (am I right?).

 

[spurs mental]

If losing that one game meant we sack conte and bring in a well thought out manager who therefore gets more time than said manager joining at the end of the summer knowing levy and his fucking about then he’s losing that one game would be beneficial longer term.

But its not beneficial in the push for 4th. Which is all we have left to play for.

I don't get why anyone would want us to lose a game. Baffling.

 

[spurs mental]

Yep we are now in the position of short term pain for long term gain again.

Some will be like “omg how can you possibly say you want the team to lose”, they fail to see the big picture.

The sooner a suitable replacement comes in the longer they will have to build towards next season. It does no one any benefit meandering towards the end of the season like this even if we did scrape 4th the new manager won’t have had any time to get up to speed so will face a very difficult CL campaign anyway.

I get you don't like Conte and you don't agree with anything i say anyway so this is probably a pointless reply. But a new manager in the summer gets plenty of time to bed in, it's only 12 games to go this season now. It's not a huge difference maker.

There's no bigger picture to see here by wanting us to lose a game so the manager is sacked.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

But its not beneficial in the push for 4th. Which is all we have left to play for.

I don't get why anyone would want us to lose a game. Baffling.

But as the pundits rightly said last night there is no point us even being in the CL if we aren’t going to compete or go for it, if we just make up the numbers and defend and whimper out it serves no purpose other than financial, whereas if we got the new manager in sooner rather than later they’d have more time to build towards a potentially successful season next season.

Top 4 isn’t a trophy, I really couldn’t care less right now if we finish 4th,5th,6th,7th, without a solid plan behind the right new manager it doesn’t matter.

 

[G Ron]

Well that’s disappointing .

Up to the fans at the ground on Saturday then to let it be known load and clear that he is no longer welcome here.

We need the crowd to turn on him - and not relent for the entire game.

Levy yeah? Agreed