Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[glacierSpurs]

Same as when Nuno left.

Just says to me that we hired yet another bad fit manager who bored and frustrated this group of players.

I don’t think this group are bad eggs at all, I just think we’ve subjected a lot of them to have to work for 3 managers in a row all who play equally dull negative anti possession football and all who are themselves either dull (Nuno) toxic (jose) or negative and self-righteous/arrogant (conte).

Give the players a positive manager who plays football they will enjoy playing and who builds up theirs and the club’s confidence and the whole club will look and feel completely different again.

Sorry man, but I have to disagree. Bored and frustrated? How about putting those personally feelings aside and be more professional by playing the best to win first as a true athletes and not limping out of those knock out matches all these years to weaker opponents? 3-4 managers came and gone and players complaint never changed. They won NOTHING to demand or complain. Their issue is as big as anything what's has gone wrong with this club.

 

[chrisd2k]

The only thing we can do is protest and make a statement. Tottenham Hotspur was built by the fans not levy and we are the ones who will be here after he’s gone. He also wants to raise season tickets. United, and pool fan base wouldn’t accept owners like this, so why should we?

There's a Levy thread.

 

[FinnYid]

I don't think Conte will be out of work for long and it will be interesting to see what Stellini does with that in mind. Will he still adhere to Conte's principals now that he's free to choose, or does he stick with it hoping Conte takes him on his next assignment? For our sake, I hope he changes things up while he's still here.

Reckon it's minor tweaking when it comes to formation and playing style, major upheaval is difficult taking account injuries and short time span. But improvement of mood, change in physical training and demolishing micromanagement and giving bit more freedom might be enough.

 

[Styopa]

3-4 managers came and gone and players complaint never changed. They won NOTHING to demand or complain. Their issue is as big as anything what's has gone wrong with this club.

This group of players have won multiple trophies between them, just none with Tottenham. For example, we’ve got players who have won the World Cup, Champions League, Copa America, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga Eredivisie and Ligue 1 in our squad.

 

[RuskyM]

Running 2 kilometers as a warm-up before a match is not much. I expect most prem players in their warm-ups are running close to that.

It’s a lot if you’re then having to run for 90 minutes chasing shadows, particularly in a season as compressed as this one has been.

No wonder the team looks ragged. Fucking hell.

 

[FinnYid]

You're talking about squads on one hand but then on the other only mention Poch's team. Vs Saints last weekend we had 10 or 11 players in the squad who were here and played under Poch. Nearly half the squad. So it's not 5.

Players that were not there under Poch:
Hugo
Skipp (hardly - some 200 mins of PL before sack?)
Sess (hardly - was purchased some months before the sacking, was injured, had 1 minute of PL before Poch got sack)
Tanganga (hardly, got PL debut after departure of Poch))
Sanchez
Dier
Davies
Son
Kane
Moura

Were not:
Höjberg
Richarlison
Foster
Perisic
Danjuma
Romero
Kulusevksi
Porro
Bentancur
Lenglet
Sarr
Bissouma

Can't really say Tanganga being there on Poch era, Hugo and Sess were injured, so more like 6 + 1 (Skipp who was introduced as teen on Poch era and got some minutes) on Saints game, so 5 is more fair say than 10 or 11.

4+1 featured as Sanchez and Moura didn't get a minute.

 

[RuskyM]

Actually 2km isn't a lot wont take more than 10 mins.

However, I bet if they played front foot football they wouldn't have complained about it.

Poch's training was absolutely brutal yet no complaints

Cos Poch was doing it a) with one of the youngest squads in the league as opposed to one of the oldest and b) wasn't being such a dickhead. Our players still talk of Poch with reverence, because he treated them like people, not tools.

Really hope our next manager isn't another "these players are cattle and I will bleed them dry" because it pretty clearly doesn't work anymore and it just fosters a shite atmosphere. Happy to be proven wrong here but you can't have that attitude *and* play good football, because good football requires flair and ingenuity, two things that that demon headmaster approach tries to crush.

 

[RuskyM]

Fifteen million a year well spent.

 

[spurs mental]

Fifteen million a year well spent.

Strange that. He wasn't around at the end of January because he was getting surgery on 1st February.

Not to mention we won our last 2 games in January.

 

[alfie103]

Looks like someone at Spurs has briefed Sami Mokbel

 

[FinnYid]

Strange that. He wasn't around at the end of January because he was getting surgery on 1st February.

Not to mention we won our last 2 games in January.

Towards the end, reckon he was pretty much there as he was on helm at 28th?

 

[spurs mental]

Towards the end, reckon he was pretty much there as he was on helm at 28th?

Yeah, and we won our last 2 games in January. Just seems a strange story.

I remember Kane referencing a meeting about the team and results, I can't remember what game it was after but I do remember him saying everyone was involved in the meeting. I would assume he meant every player and all coaches.

 

[GutBucket]

When a coach leaves often it's because training methods were difficult (Poch, Conte, Tuchel) or because they weren't difficult enough (Mourinho, Ancelotti, Kovač), different methods fit better to different teams. Usually it's not the main reason though. I was more concerned with in-game adjustments (or lack of), poor rotation, subs, using players in wrong positions/roles. And most concerned with Conte showing that he doesn't want to be here anymore. Felix Magath won Bundesliga with him actively trying to torture his players both physically and mentally, anything works as long as team is winning games they are expected to win.

 

[Stamford]

Fifteen million a year well spent.

The timeline doesnt add up though. Nice try everyone

 

[RuskyM]

Strange that. He wasn't around at the end of January because he was getting surgery on 1st February.

Not to mention we won our last 2 games in January.

The timeline doesnt add up though. Nice try everyone

Was literally in charge for two games January 23rd and January 28th.

 

[Yiddo100]

Yeah, and we won our last 2 games in January. Just seems a strange story.

I remember Kane referencing a meeting about the team and results, I can't remember what game it was after but I do remember him saying everyone was involved in the meeting. I would assume he meant every player and all coaches.

Was after Fulham I think

 

[spurs mental]

Was literally in charge for two games January 23rd and January 28th.

And we won both games.

 

[easley91]

Wasn't there word of a meeting around the Fulham game? Either before or after I can't remember. That's probably what it's referring to.

 

[RuskyM]

And we won both games.

Ah everything’s probably fine then, what’s he doing for the game this weekend?

 

[eViL]

Fifteen million a year well spent.

Encouraging subordinates to communicate transparently without management interference is USUALLY an effective approach to team building.

You have to have a spattering of people willing to step-up and get the ball rolling for it to work.

Our lot probably sat there waiting for Hugo or Harry to say something.

This where the great sides have a Keane, Viera, Maldini, Gattuso, to carry it through.