ComfortablyNumb
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Man, they both deserved reds. FFS, they’re the adults who should be in charge of the children. I enjoyed the whole thing, but no fucking excuses, please!
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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fishhhandaricecake
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So not only did the refs make a mistake during the game with the VAR hair pull decision which led us to equalise last minute but they’ve now rightfully rescinded the ban against conte but kept it for Tuchel ? can’t remember the last time decisions like that have actually gone our way.
I remember back to Pedro Medes vs Man.U when he scored from the half way line as Carroll threw the ball about 3 foot into his net, yet we didn’t get that given and lasagne gate when the fa wouldn’t move the kick off of our game.
Either we are now seen as a big club and being respected accordingly or a conte and Paratici are putting horses ? heads in the official and FA’s beds ?, whichever one it is it’s about bloody time.
Great that we will have Antonio in the dugout tomorrow ?? ?
fishhhandaricecake
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Yea it was handbags at best. Slightly elongated antagonistic handshake from Tuchel and a bit of an overreaction from Conte but understandable, red cards seemed a bit OTT though.
I personally enjoyed the spice ?
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Man up
Reece_Spurs
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What a load of rubbish.
Tbh I think the while thing has been blown way out of proportion.
2 managers showing passion in a heated match is something I really like seeing. No fists were thrown no one got hurt just a good old row in a heated moment.
I get they're managers buy come on. I would have even been disappointed to see Tuchel get a second yellow for his run down the touchline.
If we start punishing managers for showing high levels of passion in such an important game then we will end up diluting the game so much it won't be the same.
I'm not condoning violence either, it arms were thrown etc it's a different story but what would we prefer? Conte with his passion or Nuno standing there scratching his beard looking blankly into the distance?
chas vs dave
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Are we now the baddies?
EastUpperDK82
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Tuchel attacked the referee verbally afterwards in the media... very harsh words... I bet that's the 1-game ban.
SonicSarr
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What did Conte do exactly to get you this upset?
Misfit
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The big clubs usually get the decisions. They'll just have to learn to live with that reality.
Trix
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Just a stab in the dark but you haven't played any competitive sport ever, have you?
DarwinSpur
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Tuchel was a disgrace the entire match and his referee comments alone deserve a match ban - but the worst thing is none of the cowards in the press have the guts to point out to him that Bents tackle was perfect and his moaning was utterly wrong and he should apologise to the ref for slurring his name.
Reece_Spurs
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Tuchel got his ban for his comments about the ref for sure, it's been a pretty clear rule forever now if you accuse a ref of bias you're questioning his integrity and will 100% recieve some sort of ban and fine.Tuchel was a disgrace the entire match and his referee comments alone deserve a match ban - but the worst thing is none of the cowards in the press have the guts to point out to him that Bents tackle was perfect and his moaning was utterly wrong and he should apologise to the ref for slurring his name.
I'm still personally not 100% sure on the Bentancur tackle as 1 angle which was likely what the ref saw looks like he gets a toe on the ball so rightly in the refs eyes it's a good fair tackle, the other angle I saw looked like Bentancur slide through the opponents foot and it was the opponents foot that poked the ball.
Regardless whether or not it was a foul, it doesn't actually matter because so much time had passed and touches in play they could never have gone back to it anyway, such a pointless argument.
The only instance it becomes relevant is if directly after the tackle the ball is picked up from us and played straight over the top and a goal is scored, then it needs a serious looking at.
Finchyid
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he got the ball end of
DarwinSpur
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Nah it's clear it Bents who got the ball. Came in from the side so not through the player. Perfect tackle.
Understand the confusion. Even Bents didn't thought he'd committed a foul. But the right replays completely vindicate the ref's decision.
Reece_Spurs
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Fair play, regardless, it should have never affected the outcome anyways.
taidgh
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There's bias and then there's this bollocks. It was a foul. He's obviously caught the player on the way to the ball. And the fact that he got the ball doesn't mean it's not a foul.
It's okay to admit it was a foul and still revel in the outcome and the absolute piss boiling going on over at Stamford Bridge.
I wouldn't say it's bollocks. Even at super slow speed, it's difficult to be totally sure if it's a foul IMHO. From what I can see, his foot is not going through the opponent before his toe hits the ball. There could be an argument that he body tackles him a fraction before hitting the ball, but I think that's quite common going into a tackle.
It might have been a foul, but calling the opposite view bollocks is taking it too far, I think.
Watch this clip (change it to 0.25x speed):
Of course I'm a bit biased, but to me, that's an impressive tackle ?
taidgh
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Good video of it. There is a definite case for it to be seen as a clean tackle from that. Apologies to @Finchyid and @DarwinSpur
What I will say though, is that kind of tackle is almost always given as a foul. It definitely looked as though Bentancur went through Havertz to get the ball. However, as you said, even when slowed down, it it so, so difficult to tell if Bentancur won the ball cleanly (touched the ball before contact with Havertz's leg).
I still think we were very lucky that it wasn't seen as a foul. I think most would admit it was a foul, and I haven't seen a pundit, ex-player or not, say otherwise. If it had been given as a foul, Chelsea would have a set piece opportunity, and even if the ball was played short, would have been more likely to have players in the right defensive positions that would have made it more difficult to progress the ball effectively.
And my other point that we can enjoy Chelsea getting wound up about it all is still valid, of course.
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