Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[T-Bone]

Agreed.

Outs (take whatever we can get at this point): Ndombele, Winks, Lo Celso, Sanchez, Emerson, Reguilon, Moura, Gil
Ins: Skriniar (or similar top quality CB), Porro/Dumfries (whichever Conte prefers), RWF/AM (there's a few out there to chose from)

Realistically on the outs we only have to worry about shifting Sanchez, Emerson, Gil and Moura right now. The first 3 will be easy enough as there will be takers for the right price. Moura might be a tough one but potentially if we release him on a free then he might well find a team in Brazil to take him in given the time of year for them.

On the ins - this can't be debatable, anything less than CB, RWB and RWF/AM in this window and it's a poor one and we'll struggle with top 4 finish. On the flip side we only really need 3 quality players in those positions to sort us out and keep us very competitive.

I'd assume based just on Sanchez, Emerson and Gil that we could raise £15m, £25m and £20m this window, which would give us £60m added to the remaining £50m share option draw down.

Skriniar should be do-able for around £40m, Porro for £40m and then £30m to spend on a RWF/AM - which should be plenty for FP to uncover another Bentancur/Deki type signing.

I get that this isn't FM, but none of the above is outlandish and is certainly very do-able in this window. It would leave us with a much more balanced squad and we'd then have probably another £50m of player sales in the summer from the others above, to add to our CL money (£50m?) from this season (which we haven't touched yet) and whatever our usual summer budget is (£50m?). So realistically £100-150m in the summer to back Conte with again. Then we can resume to more normal spending levels from next Jan window onwards.

Who is going to buy Sanchez, Emerson and Gil for that Money? Maybe you get £20m for Gil but in Jan doubtful, the only people spending big money will be premiership teams.

Why would we spend £40M on Skriniar when he is out of contract in 6 months?

 

[PrettyColors]

I can’t believe this serial fucking winner has been out coached totally this season by Mikel bloody Arteta. Don’t even tell me they have a “better squad”, they don’t have a Kane.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Who is going to buy Sanchez, Emerson and Gil for that Money? Maybe you get £20m for Gil but in Jan doubtful, the only people spending big money will be premiership teams.

Why would we spend £40M on Skriniar when he is out of contract in 6 months?

Exactly. This assertion that’s it’s easy to shift players is ridiculous. Most European teams are still skint after Covid.

 

[brasil_spur]

Who is going to buy Sanchez, Emerson and Gil for that Money? Maybe you get £20m for Gil but in Jan doubtful, the only people spending big money will be premiership teams.

Why would we spend £40M on Skriniar when he is out of contract in 6 months?

£15m for Sanchez is a very decent deal for any team looking for a CB. PSV springs to mind as they are in need of CBs and have a bunch of money coming their way with Gakpo.

£25m for Emerson is probably the hardest one to do, although if Inter sell Dumfries and end up selling Skriniar, De Vrij or even Bastoni as well then they're going to have some cash to spend and will need a RB. I can a deal here where we over pay for Skriniar and they overpay for Emerson.

£20m for Gil is also a tricky one as the clubs in Spain that would take him might not have the cash. That being said we shouldn't sell him at a loss and so £20m is fair, but maybe he goes on a loan with option.

In terms of spending £40m on Skriniar - I think this is what Inter will want to let him go, it's as much about saving face as anything else. If we can wrap up a deal that involves him and Emerson going the other way then it may be doable.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Benta
Kulu
Perisic
Bissouma
Richy
Lenglet
Udogie

in 2 windows is pretty good, he's been backed more than any previous manager and is continuing to be backed

Joking aside. I see it from a different perspective. I agree with the Points you've listed (barring the last 2, loan and not here yet).

But, I ask the question. Was it backing Conte or was it trying to rescue a squad that has been, in my opinion, incompetently managed and permitted to rot from within for an extended period?

They have been signed under conte, but where would this team be without having done so? Regardless of Conte, those signings were essential and have still only managed to paper over cracks.

For me, now we see if conte will be backed or not. With players that will improve the squad (which shouldn't be too difficult defensively).

If anything, conte for me, has backed the board by attracting a higher caliber.

 

[Roberts84]

Getting Özil, Aubameyang, Lacazette, Giroud and so on off the wage bill has made a big difference for Le Arse.

If Conte and Paratici can deliver more transfers like Benta, Kulu, Romero, Richarlison... then we will be fine. Both on fees and wages. And still show ambition.

I know that Conte wants experience as well... like Perisic... that's not a problem as long as we don't have to pay insane amounts of money... it's doable without going bananas.

I can imagine the arse players you mentioned were costing c.£1m a week in wages.
I wonder if the figures stated include players loaned out.

 

[jay2040]

I can’t believe this serial fucking winner has been out coached totally this season by Mikel bloody Arteta. Don’t even tell me they have a “better squad”, they don’t have a Kane.

How can you compare the two when they have different players to work with ? Your statement would only make sense if they were the only 2 variables and all other things constant.
That dipshit is miles below Conte in terms of achievements and I know who I would rather have, though each to their own!

 

[PrettyColors]

How can you compare the two when they have different players to work with ? Your statement would only make sense if they were the only 2 variables and all other things constant.
That dipshit is miles below Conte in terms of achievements and I know who I would rather have, though each to their own!

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

You on a wind up?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 7 points clear at the top

Mate, if Arteta is a better coach than Conte, why the fuck did they finish below Spurs last year?

 

[matthew.absurdum]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

They are also 5 points clear of Man City who have Pep and Haaland.....? If Pep is such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

 

[McFlash]

I remember my first beer. ?

Fuck me, Arteta a better coach than Conte?!

 

[jay2040]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

Short memory- what happened last season!

I agree it is frustrating to see the fuckers do well though we are on our own journey of sorts!

It just does not seem we have got out of 2nd gear yet.
It's not about comparing players, more so who fits in the managers system.
We are only half way through, have faith buddy and if it waivers have a drink or two!
COYS

 

[djhotspur]

I can’t believe this serial fucking winner has been out coached totally this season by Mikel bloody Arteta. Don’t even tell me they have a “better squad”, they don’t have a Kane.

I don’t think arteta would even want Kane. They play a very fast, high press game that would not suit Kane.

 

[djhotspur]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

I mean let’s compare artetas first full season to conte… when arteta finished 8th. Arteta is in his 4th season for gods sake.

 

[scissor_gang]

Benta
Kulu
Perisic
Bissouma
Richy
Lenglet
Udogie

in 2 windows is pretty good, he's been backed more than any previous manager and is continuing to be backed

i'm sure he will be satisfied as long as it continues that way

 

[Clockspur]

I remember my first beer. ?

Fuck me, Arteta a better coach than Conte?!

The guy has a point, so what Conte has won titles with Juve, Chelsea and Inter whilst Arteta has won an FA cup - what really matters when judging how good a coach is, is the first 16 games of this season.

Stay off the crack fellas

 

[longtimespur]

Agreed.

Outs (take whatever we can get at this point): Ndombele, Winks, Lo Celso, Sanchez, Emerson, Reguilon, Moura, Gil
Ins: Skriniar (or similar top quality CB), Porro/Dumfries (whichever Conte prefers), RWF/AM (there's a few out there to chose from)

Realistically on the outs we only have to worry about shifting Sanchez, Emerson, Gil and Moura right now. The first 3 will be easy enough as there will be takers for the right price. Moura might be a tough one but potentially if we release him on a free then he might well find a team in Brazil to take him in given the time of year for them.

On the ins - this can't be debatable, anything less than CB, RWB and RWF/AM in this window and it's a poor one and we'll struggle with top 4 finish. On the flip side we only really need 3 quality players in those positions to sort us out and keep us very competitive.

I'd assume based just on Sanchez, Emerson and Gil that we could raise £15m, £25m and £20m this window, which would give us £60m added to the remaining £50m share option draw down.

Skriniar should be do-able for around £40m, Porro for £40m and then £30m to spend on a RWF/AM - which should be plenty for FP to uncover another Bentancur/Deki type signing.

I get that this isn't FM, but none of the above is outlandish and is certainly very do-able in this window. It would leave us with a much more balanced squad and we'd then have probably another £50m of player sales in the summer from the others above, to add to our CL money (£50m?) from this season (which we haven't touched yet) and whatever our usual summer budget is (£50m?). So realistically £100-150m in the summer to back Conte with again. Then we can resume to more normal spending levels from next Jan window onwards.

Only problem with your very good summary is Mr "I'm the man" DAN

 

[HildoSpur]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

Let's check back on this if Conte is given £300 million to spend on players and 3 years to coach and develop the squad shall we? Otherwise it's a very stupid argument to try and make.

 

[Stamford]

Mate if Conte is a better coach than Arteta why the fuck is he 10 points clear of us at the top, while we go down 0-1 in basically every first half we’ve played the entire season? If he’s such a great manager why isn’t he managing better FFS?

What possible excuses do we have for the guy at this point? Yeah our players aren’t great, but theirs aren’t either, and they haven’t got anyone who’s even close to a Kane level player in their squad

you need to acknowledge the spend level and the fact that he's been there a minute. Loads called for arteta to go not so long ago and the board responded by giving him a long contract