Football & Homosexuality

[hugrr]

So KPB and his team mates are attention whores for walking off the pitch due to racist chanting?

He's left his profession because he felt he would not be accepted due to his sexuality, which is no ones business but his own. Yes people should make a stand against the homophobia in Football, but that's a massive decision for someone to take, and I can see how someone can walk away rather than be that first person.

 

[Mouse!]

It would be interesting if, for example, a high profile bloke at FIFA, the FA, or even a referee came out as gay. They are in a position of responsibility and should be forced to come out as gay, even if they aren't. Then a gay player/ manager wouldn't be too far behind.

Only joking with that middle sentence.

 

[OmarsComing]

 

[Mouse!]

Are there many female footballers who have come out as lesbinims?

 

[OmarsComing]

Are there many female footballers who have come out as lesbinims?

There are 100's of them. Probably more lesbians than hetroexuals

 

[Mouse!]

There are 100's of them. Probably more lesbians than hetroexuals

Yeah, probs. Just wondered if most of them were out or still choking on mothballs.

 

[Danners9]

Interesting subject. A couple of my friends believe the WC shouldn't be held in Qatar because homosexuality is illegal there.

This doesn't in any way mean there are no homosexuals, though. There are plenty of men (in particular) in the Arab world who go through the ceremonial stuff their families and society expect of them as a front. Plenty of men who are married to women but are gay, the men cheat with their real partner and the women also have affairs. The marriage is a convenient front. I am sure the same happens for women and also there are plenty of very unhappy people living a lie.

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John Fashanu is a disgraceful human being. The documentary with his niece about Justin was just awful. You could tell how disgusted she was with him.

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The whole thing needs a really strong character to come out at the peak of his career. Robbie Rogers is a great step forward but he retired and won't have to face any crowds or opposing fans. I'm sure his teammates already knew and he had confided in them and the management but as an individual person can be very smart, a group of people can be very stupid.

Being gay clearly has no impact on the player's talent, but it may do on their confidence and ability to cope with the games. The gay players denying it or being silent does the cause no good at all - but really there shouldn't be a cause to promote. Who gives a shit who or what a player decides to shag, it's a sad indictment of society that personal lives like are considered news.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Yeah, probs. Just wondered if most of them were out or still choking on mothballs.

Well they certainly aren't choking on dick

 

[Spurger King]

It's certainly interesting. I guess there could be a form of 'filtering' process of sorts that starts at an early age, whereby boys and young men that know they have (or sense they are developing) homosexual tendencies may avoid or drop out of a predominantly 'laddish' and 'blokey' environment such as football, and therefore massively reduce the numbers that actually go on to become professional footballers.

Of course there's obviously still going to be plenty of homosexual professional footballers that haven't said anything. Two potential issues I can see is that many countries around the world are still pretty backwards about homosexuality, so there are a lot of leagues where there's a lot of potential for open hostility from players and fans. On the other hand the best leagues in the world tend to be made up of players from all over the place, so there's going to be a wide range of attitudes and preconceptions within most clubs, and not all of it is going to be positive.

 

[3Dnata]

I think he's a bit a self publicist which might distract from the real issue.
He had a few subs appearances at Leeds then a few on loan at Stevenage, the loan was cut short, he didn't really have much of a career to throw away.

 

[seanwhite1961]

These articles annoy me a bit. Obviously being heterosexual means I may not have the best understanding and the non existent number of openly gay footballers speaks for itself but should this be an issue these days? I've got gay mates and worked with gay people and there's plenty around us in all walks of life (radio tv etc). It really doesn't bother me one bit, just as it doesn't matter what colour skin they have etc. But why is this so taboo in football? Why are players afraid to come out... well I know why they are afraid it just amazes me that not one will even try it and work with their manager/club and fellow players to see how it works out.

A radio presenter can drop hints and over time (Scott Mills, Nick Grimshaw) it becomes known and quite obvious. I liked them before it was obvious, and I liked them after, it really makes no difference to me.

Is it the fear of abuse? Or being naked / close with someone who is gay? Footballers should be thick-skinned, we all have a laugh and a joke (sometimes in the showers themselves) and I assume many would laugh and joke with an openly gay mate and some even 'play flirt' with them.

So why is this an issue? Should the non gay fans be encouraging for more players to be open? Or should we just let it improve on its own accord? Or does it not matter either way???

I'm amazed that you're amazed that no one is willing to risk losing their whole career by doing it.

Much more surprising is that I'm not aware of any major ex-players in the English League from the past 50 years identifying themselves as homosexual after their careers are long over.

 

[Nocando]

I'm amazed that you're amazed that no one is willing to risk losing their whole career by doing it.

Much more surprising is that I'm not aware of any major ex-players in the English League from the past 50 years identifying themselves as homosexual after their careers are long over.

No you're probably right. Initially I just felt it seems strange no one has come out when were talking about there being thousands upon thousands of players in the game. However when I think about it, it does seem that there is a lot to risk and probably not much to gain (or at least that's how it may be viewed).

If it is seen as a risk then you have to ask who's to blame for this....

...It seems that ultimately it's the fans. Do you think that's fair?

And is there anything we can do about it (other than not singing songs which may inflame the situation - myself included)?

 

[CosmicHotspur]

It would be interesting if, for example, a high profile bloke at FIFA, the FA, or even a referee came out as gay. They are in a position of responsibility and should be forced to come out as gay, even if they aren't. Then a gay player/ manager wouldn't be too far behind.

Only joking with that middle sentence.

You've not seen this then...