Free the Keane 1

[mattstev2000]

I think that's unfair

They're Harry's favourites cause they're (IMO) quite clearly our most effective all round strikers

Personally I don't think there's really anything between our strikers. None of them score enough, none of them are really that intelligent or commanding and none of them are consistently good.

They're all rather average at the moment and there should be more rotation based on who is or isn't scoring. That doesn't happen at the moment because Crouch and Defoe are Harry's go to guys.

 

[Mornstar]

Wow yes, a neutral person who has just suggested that the way forward might be replace Keane with a 17 year old who I've only seen live a handful of times, but then reminded people of a time, pre Berbatov, when he had an unbelievable season (the second half of that season being the first half of his 2006 top league scorer in the premier league achievment, by the way). I must be Robbie Keane in disguise. Well done, you're so smart and perceptive. I want to build a statue of you and stroke it's bollocks for good luck every morning, you inspire me just that much.

chill dum ass, my comment was aimed at TheBigMatch's initial post at the start of the thread :duh:

 

[The Apprentice]

Time for Robbie to be turned into glue I think.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

First of all, Defoe's been injured for over a month anyway, and last I saw he was scoring a hatrick for England and coming into some great form.

As for Crouch being a go to guy, right now he is linking up better with Rafael Van der Vaart than either Keane or Pavlyuchenko, and this has been shown since they linked up for our goal away at West Brom. Given that Van der Vaart may well be our best player, getting the best out of him seems like a pretty good idea to me.

Pavlyuchenko has actually been pretty involved this season, started a couple of games and scored a few goals. If he gets the chance and takes it, he'll be elevated above Crouch, so long as Crouch isn't himself performing. I prefer Pav, but right now Crouch has been doing alright, and Van der Vaarts instant impact has a lot to do with him.

Keane, if he gets in and takes his chance well, will stay in. Harry's first concern is for the team to do well, because the better the team do, the better he does. If that involves Keane being in, then Keane will be in. Right now there is no basis to change the VDV off Crouch situation because neither Keane, nor Pav, have done as well with VDV as Crouch has, and our main goalscorer is still injured for the foreseeable future.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Apologies mornstar, it was directly after my post standing up for Keane so I assumed incorrectly, and we all know that assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

 

[ricardomcd]

I totally agree with Timboyid.

As far as I am concerned Keane was a quality player for us in his time that cannot be disputed. He, like every squad member, has to earn his place in the first 11. He has opportunities since his return to grab the shirt with both hands and make it his own but hasn't managed to perform to the best of his ability. I simply think that the passage of time has caught up with Keane. I know he is only thirty but players bodies cope differently. He was a first team player from a young age and has played at the top level for a long time. He was never renowned for his pace but it strikes me his legs are gone because he not only has lost the ability to move the ball quickly at his feet but also has lost that bit of speed.

Sadly he hasn’t shown me enough in the game time he has had to be the focus of our attack. I have the utmost respect for his record as a player but I think its time Spurs and Keane permanently part company.

 

[ShelfSide18]

Fixed it for you.

That argument has, time and time again, been completely and utterly destroyed every time someone is lazy enough to trawl it up.

It's just completely wrong, simplistic and without any foundation whatsoever.

 

[Pinto]

I agree with Richardomcd on this one. While I love and will always love Keane for what he has done for this club it is time to move on, Keane is past his best and nowhere near good enough to keep us in the top 4 at the present time.

He is on huge wages and that money could be better spent on a replacement or just upping the best players we have now. I know I would rather lose Keane and just up Bale, Modric, and VDV's wages then keep Keane around.

Anyway, I love Robbie but he just isn't the same player as he was 4-6 years ago. I wish him nothing but the best and want to move on now so we can all stop bashing a legend and get behind this team.

 

[TheBigMatch]

chill dum ass, my comment was aimed at TheBigMatch's initial post at the start of the thread :duh:

Eek You're not dissing me surely.

No, I'm not Keane in disguise, those Tallaght lads wouldn't be arsed posting on Spurscommunity especially the Pool supporters :wink:.

He's not doing Spurs or Ireland (mind you that was a great dive for his Russian penalty) as much good as he should at the moment rusting away on the bench.

That's one thing you would think, with all the sophistication in sport these days, that they would know how to keep strikers sharp and confident without playing every match.... how did ole gunnar solskjaer do it.

Any chance of Berbatov coming back to team up with Keane again...those were the days those were the days.... even better with VdV powering in behind.

Ideally Keane goes on one of his scoring sprees that takes him through the season to bag his usual hatful to take him above 200 career goals, a top 5 legendary Spurs goalscorer (surely there would be no legend argument if he made it into the top 5), and added another trophy to show for his years at Spurs... . and all it would take is a normal scoring season in a better team...but he'd want to start taking his chances very soon to do that.

 

[DoublePivot]

Why the hell would you lot want Robbie to go anywhere....or Jenas.

You'd have no life if you didn't have the opportunity to whinge and moan and hate....mostly hate. And sure, you'd eventually find another reason to do so. But allowing stupid people to come up with their own ideas is cruel.....like giving a blind man a girlie magazine. So keep Keane and Jenas and save a queen's subject from a migraine I say.

 

[DJS]

Fixed it for you.

:sleepy:

That argument has, time and time again, been completely and utterly destroyed every time someone is lazy enough to trawl it up.

It's just completely wrong, simplistic and without any foundation whatsoever.

This.

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Having watched Ireland dominate but struggle to finish with a draw away to Slovakia following a Keane failure to connect enough with a great cross, having a penalty saved (well placed but no power), failing to control a clearance (which would have lead to a goal chance had it been controlled, but from which Slovakia broke got a corner and a goal - bloody Whelan the useless git who also let his Russian man in), and again failure to adequately control a cross (which should have led to a slot it home goal to win the game), it is obvious that Keane is not getting enough game time and without it is not up to doing the job for Spurs or Ireland.

Keane has been a great servent of Spurs.

We have quickly forgotten the days when he was one of the few saving us from relegation.

We forget how many man of the match performances he gave.

We forget his player of the seasons.

We forget that we were League Cup Champions when he left for Liverpool.

We forget that we were in the relegation zone before he returned from Liverpool and in the top four when he went to Celtic.

We forget he has cost us nothing NOTHING in transfer fees.

We forget all those goals that have put him within a few goals of being a top 5 all time Spurs goals scorers.

Unfortunately so has he............:violin:

 

[sloth]

Unfortunately so has he............:violin:

:-D Best post today!

 

[Pinto]

Why the hell would you lot want Robbie to go anywhere....or Jenas.

You'd have no life if you didn't have the opportunity to whinge and moan and hate....mostly hate. And sure, you'd eventually find another reason to do so. But allowing stupid people to come up with their own ideas is cruel.....like giving a blind man a girlie magazine. So keep Keane and Jenas and save a queen's subject from a migraine I say.

Why would you want to keep Keane is more appropriate if you ask me? He has been given chances over the past 2 seasons and not taken them. How many points should Spurs drop so that Keane can find this form he used to have 3 or 4 years ago??

If you want to keep him for the bench I would suggest not paying him the highest wages at the club. It is just bad business to do that because at the very least we could use those wages to pay another striker or just bump up the wages of our better players like Bale, Modric, and VDV.

Jenas is altogher different. He has done a pretty darn good job when given a run of games. He has taken his chance and deserves his place. Besides if we are starting to move to a 4-5-1/4-3-3 we will need more central midfielders not less of them while would might could do with only 3 strikers and since we have Defoe/Crouch/Pav I don't see this huge need to waste space on our bench for our highest wage earner to play the occasional 10 minutes here or there. That is what you let your youngsters do. Look at the top 3. Daniel Sturridge comes on for Chelski late on, Macheda for Manue, Vela for Arsenal yet we are supposed to keep around Keane to do that on huge wages?

Besides Keane would get games at another smaller club so do him the favor of letting him go to play some minutes before he retires and can't get on the pitch anymore.

Anyway, I can totally understand your sticking up for Keane and Jenas and think it is a nice gesture but Spurs need points to stay in the top 4 and Keane can't deliver those points anymore. Jenas has done a good enough job when called upon and should be kept around for at least another year to bridge the gap until Sandro can do the job full time. (not that they do the same things on the pitch but attacking wise I think we are set with VDV and Modric in the middle and Wilson and Sandro for the defensive side of things and Hudd just does what he does and passes much much better than Jenas) Even when Sandro can do the job full time I wouldn't be opposed to Jenas sticking around and filling in when needed.

 

[defoe18]

On form, no

If he gets a chance and hits form, hell yes!

 

[woodward]

Harry isn't going to give him a chance because he's not Crouch or Defoe so he needs to move on. It's a waste of a good striker for him to be wasting his last few seasons on our bench.

Pav should move on as well because until we get a real top quality striker no-one is going to dislodge Harry's favourites.

They are favoured above others who are not performing. Harry, for whatever reason, does not want Keane. If Keane moves, Villa will be his best option. Other destinations will be lower down the ladder.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Again I arrive to a thread late and thus I suspect all of what I'm about to say has already been said but....

1) Keane was a vital part of everything that Spurs have done in the last 8 years. He's scored fuck loads of goals, set up fuck loads of goals, captained the side and generally been an absolute legend.

2) He's now not playing well and hasn't been playing well for us for a while.

There's no reason that those two things can't go together. Keane should move on because he's no longer good enough (based on his form over the last year or so) but that doesn't mean he deserves the ridicule/venom that he gets from some on here and at WHL.

Personally I think he could go somewhere and be a great success because he's still a good player but for various reasons I don't think he'll find his best form again at Spurs. We can't be sentimental and keep him because he's a Spurs legend, but at the same time we shouldn't shout vitriol at him in the meantime.

 

[RickyVilla]

Again I arrive to a thread late and thus I suspect all of what I'm about to say has already been said but....

1) Keane was a vital part of everything that Spurs have done in the last 8 years. He's scored fuck loads of goals, set up fuck loads of goals, captained the side and generally been an absolute legend.

2) He's now not playing well and hasn't been playing well for us for a while.

There's no reason that those two things can't go together. Keane should move on because he's no longer good enough (based on his form over the last year or so) but that doesn't mean he deserves the ridicule/venom that he gets from some on here and at WHL.

Personally I think he could go somewhere and be a great success because he's still a good player but for various reasons I don't think he'll find his best form again at Spurs. We can't be sentimental and keep him because he's a Spurs legend, but at the same time we shouldn't shout vitriol at him in the meantime.

Well said :up:

 

[HodisGawd]

We've got to be ruthless if we want to be a top team, and that means regularly separating the wheat from the chaff. Keane has done nothing this season to justify being picked. Until he does, there's no reason to keep him.

Sorry Robbie, you've been a great player for us but we want to move on a level. Thanks and goodbye.

 

[Mr Gamgee]

Having watched Ireland dominate but struggle to finish with a draw away to Slovakia following a Keane failure to connect enough with a great cross, having a penalty saved (well placed but no power), failing to control a clearance (which would have lead to a goal chance had it been controlled, but from which Slovakia broke got a corner and a goal - bloody Whelan the useless git who also let his Russian man in), and again failure to adequately control a cross (which should have led to a slot it home goal to win the game), it is obvious that Keane is not getting enough game time and without it is not up to doing the job for Spurs or Ireland.

Keane has been a great servent of Spurs.

We have quickly forgotten the days when he was one of the few saving us from relegation.

We forget how many man of the match performances he gave.

We forget his player of the seasons.

We forget that we were League Cup Champions when he left for Liverpool.

We forget that we were in the relegation zone before he returned from Liverpool and in the top four when he went to Celtic.

We forget he has cost us nothing NOTHING in transfer fees.

We forget all those goals that have put him within a few goals of being a top 5 all time Spurs goals scorers.

We just remember his latest ...should have could have scored chance.

Without confidence he is only half the player he can and has been.

Reluctantly unless Redknapp believes in him and gives him the main striker job, he needs to be set free from Spurs on loan or transfer. God knows Liverpool could do with him now....... and no more of that ignorant he deserted us bull.

Free the Keane 1

All in the past though mate. You can play someone just becuase they used to be good. Robbie is getting some game time off the bench but he needs to take those oppotunities if hes gonna make it into the team.