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Freidel.... does the problem partly lie with him?

riversmonkey

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I think you've got to factor in the recent injury disruption in front of him. The injuries varying in severity to Dawson, King, Gallas and Kaboul over the last few games, coupled with poor defending at set pieces, which again might stem from key team changes.

Friedel and Cudicini in the cups have both made some outstanding saves, showing great awareness and agility, however a young keeper does need to be purchased in the summer because inevitably age will catch up on our veteran keepers.
 

wooderz

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May 18, 2006
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Me too! But Friedel is far from the problem methinks! Our lack of goal scoring right now is our main problem
 

Jack2

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Well, IMO most of the goals we've conceded recently are more a result of bad defending than bad goalkeeping. I was against of signing Friedel, but have to say that he has been excellent.
 

Mr Pink

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Even if you think Friedel is good enough or an improvement - which some of us don't - he is at best only going to last until May. He is not the future, so we really do need to think about what happens then and what type of keeper.

Personally I want one that is way more proactive and agile.

Yeah I was meaning how he's been to date, obviously he's not the future.
 

Jay The Yid

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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.
 

Kingstheman

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Mar 13, 2006
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

Yeah! And when our team's syndicate won the Euro-lottery, Gomes dropped the ticket down the drain.
 

JJetset

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Oct 4, 2004
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

I'm sure he would be impressed with your loyal support Jay.
 

Kingellesar

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May 2, 2005
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Well, IMO most of the goals we've conceded recently are more a result of bad defending than bad goalkeeping. I was against of signing Friedel, but have to say that he has been excellent.

Indeed, which is worrying because our back four have been consistent nearly all season but recently they seem to have forgotten how to defend.
 

Pedro

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Jan 4, 2005
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Problem with Freidel is that he never saves shots which you wouldn't expect him to, so is hard to blame in that respect. Now compare to Gomes, who pulled off loads of unbelievable saves that you wouldn't expect. He also seems very static.

The reason I feel he has kept his place over a superior Gomes is for his organisation of the defence, his experience and general calm safe hands giving those in front of him more confidence - resulting in a defence performing better. Unfortunately for Gomes, as good as he is/was (where the fuck is he??) you could never be sure what he was going to do. He could run around like a mad thing, or drop the ball in his own net, which I think lead to a more nervous defence - even though these events where pretty rare (despite what the media will lead you to believe).

Personally I am a big Gomes fan despite his flaws, IMO his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. Feel really sorry for the guy, and feel we should have stated the season with Gomes rather than Friedel taking over automatically. Now we have no choice, Gomes is finished, career at spurs well and truely killed off by Harry, so unless we stick Cuddo in, who isn't really superior to Friedel these days then we have to stick as we are.
 

ItsBoris

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Jan 18, 2011
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He's decent but not great as I've been saying all season. At first I was annoyed with his god-awful distribution, but he also doesn't command the area and rarely makes saves that you wouldn't expect.
 

mano-obe

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Mar 2, 2005
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

Rant of the year candidate :bowdown:
 

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

yep, there are now a lot of issues for Daniel to fix,... but Friedel is not the reason for this collapse. Spurs never would've been 3rd at any point this season without Friedel in goal. Gomes would have a couple good games and a couple highlight saves,... but would've single handedly gaffed a number of losses before Spurs ever had a sniff at 3rd IMHO. Friedel is not the problem at Spurs
 

Gbspurs

Gatekeeper for debates, King of the plonkers
Jan 27, 2011
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.And still better than what we had before
Our centre backs are all crippled. True, but man Utd were playing Carrick and Evra at CB in October so just one of those things
Modric looks no where near a £50m player like the rest of our team he is having a bad run but it took more than 4 good games to make him great
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game. I think alto of this is down to Sandro being injured nearly constantly, I think he will play today though for what it's worth
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend Agreed, but he is still young and what a player he is already so I'm not too worried, rather have him than not
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence. Also agreed, probably the biggest issue
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.they are our 3rd and 4th striker respectively, how good are arsenals 3rd/4th choice strikers?
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.Again down to injuries, can't do much about that
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.I think the "mercenary" think is irrelevant but he certainly is inconsistent. Still has decent stats and played a huge part in our success this season
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.like you say they are good enough but they don't get the chance
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.this is an odd one but 100% true, strangest thing for me is how poor the king/Kaboul combo looks despite the fact they are our best strikers.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.what about 09/10?
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.To be fair I think he has earned an element of respect, take a moment to think of our seasons before he arrived

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4. We won't get stuffed

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

That kept me busy! Good rant.
 

Dare!

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Jan 20, 2011
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.
You're rivaling TheGreenLilly for Moron Of The Year.
 

JimmyG2

SC Supporter
Dec 7, 2006
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.
Make a good T shirt but the print would be a bit small.
At the bottom shoiuld say:
'But we still almost nearly but not quite got top four.'

You can't blame Friedel fo being old. Some of my best friends are old.
 

theaman

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Jan 3, 2005
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You can't blame Friedel fo being old. Some of my best friends are old.

:)

Brilliant - and very true.

In answer to the OP's original question - no. He is a great influence on the team, commanding in the box, excellent at decision-making and has made countless top saves this season.

Maybe a one or two season stop gap but very happy to see his name on the team sheet each week.
 

tototoner

Staying Alert
Mar 21, 2004
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I think he is a bit scared of the ball and the main reason that he doesn't make silly gaffs like Gomes is because he never goes for the ball.

Many examples yesterday during Chelsea crosses, corners and the Mata FK
 

Spurs_Bear

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Jan 7, 2009
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Loads of problems!

Friedel is old.
Our centre backs are all crippled
Modric looks no where near a £50m player
Parker for some reason is a shoe in and Sandro can't get a game.
Bale is a bit of a woman and can't defend
Lennon is always injured and because of Harry's lack of foresight we lack balance in his absence.
Defoe is a bit shit really and Saha is crap.
VDV out one player who can do something a bit special is in and out of the side.
The one decent striker we have is a mercenary and really couldn't give a rats arse about the club and is far too inconsistent.
Our fringe players aren't good enough but to be fair hardly get a chance so it's tough for them.
We are crap at corners and set pieces and we can't defend.
We are tottenham and we never have the bollocks for a fight.
Out manager is a bit of a stubborn prick and can never take criticism when quite frankly it's warranted.

Think that's about it. Oh and by the way we will get stuffed tomorrow and have blown our chance of finishing in the top 4.

Only Spurs can let you down like this and blow a 13 point lead in a month.

Harry can quite frankly fuck off. Prick.

Your Chelsea lot were shite yesterday. You've got real problems Chelseaboy.
 
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