Galatasaray to hold talks with Tottenham in London over Soldado transfer

[mawspurs]

Galatasaray representatives will travel to London to hold talks with Tottenham over the transfer of Roberto Soldado.

Read the full article at Turkish Football

 

[Shea]

Would be sensational to get him off the books

In my eyes he's our worst ever signing, I like him as a guy and I even think he's a very talented player but he's been terrible for us and was a huge waste of money and represents a massive wasted opportunity

The sooner we can get him out the club the better - for him as much as us

 

[garryparkerschest]

Would be sensational to get him off the books

In my eyes he's our worst ever signing, I like him as a guy and I even think he's a very talented player but he's been terrible for us and was a huge waste of money and represents a massive wasted opportunity

The sooner we can get him out the club the better - for him as much as us

I understand what your saying and totally agree but he's one of those characters that you hoped would succeed.

I knew it wouldn't happen from day one and it's sad that my hunch came into fruition.

 

[yiddo23]

Ya I love bobby, was just brought into a system that doesn't fit with him. Its been hard to watch as you can see the man has exceptional character. I would still love for him to workout somehow but it won't, better for him to go somewhere he can be the number 1 and get going again.

 

[Shea]

I understand what your saying and totally agree but he's one of those characters that you hoped would succeed.

I knew it wouldn't happen from day one and it's sad that my hunch came into fruition.

Yea I always hoped it would happen for him

I hoped once avb left he would no longer be an isolated figure up front and we as a team would have our shackles removed and become creative so that the goals would start flowing for him

This happened to be fair - we became more creative and soldado got loads of chances and indeed the goals started to flow......for Ade

Bobby had and missed so many chances under Tim it became too obvious to deny he was never going to be a success for us

We just need to cut out losses on him and he needs to revive his career elsewhere - him being with us is no good for him or us so I'm the best interest of all parties I hope this story has legs and I hope he bangs the goals in I'm Turkey

 

[Hoops]

If they took Soldado and Kabul Id be very happy

 

[Mullers]

How pissed off are their fans going to be if they replace Yilmaz with Soldado? That is Tottenhamesq. He must have been getting tips from Levy.

 

[Database]

Never wanted him 'cause I knew he's going to be a total failure. 2012-2013 we didn't get any penalties, we scored most of our goals from outside the box and our midfield didn't create any chances.

But it's never nice to see players struggling like he has. I really hope he moves and starts scoring again.

 

[Phantom]

Would be sensational to get him off the books

In my eyes he's our worst ever signing, I like him as a guy and I even think he's a very talented player but he's been terrible for us and was a huge waste of money and represents a massive wasted opportunity

The sooner we can get him out the club the better - for him as much as us

Need I remind you of a Brazilian left back? Or Khumalo...Cost a fraction obviously but lets not say things we don't mean eh?

 

[Shea]

Need I remind you of a Brazilian left back? Or Khumalo...Cost a fraction obviously but lets not say things we don't mean eh?

I think Soldado is a far worse signing than either of those

I'm not saying he's the worst player we've brought in

To me he's the worst signing ever because of how much he cost compared to how much he produced in relation to expectation and what we needed him to produce

He was brought in for huge money as an established international goal machine to be one of our star players and be the goal scorer we had so long required

Khulmbo was of course an inferior player to Soldado but that doesn't make him a worse signing in the context I mean when I call Soldado our worst ever signing

Khulmbo wasn't brought In to be a first team player,he wasn't brought in for big money and he wasn't expected to be out star or make a huge impact with us right away

Indeed his coming and time here went largely unnoticed because expectation was not high and the money was not significant (relatively speaking of course)

Don't misunderstand my statement to mean Soldado is the worst player we've ever signed - he's not Gary dougerthy, rasiak or booth level when it comes to worst strikers even.

But to me there is more to consider when talking about worst signing

I don't like doing this because it always comes across like I'm badmouthing him or have an agenda against him when I really don't - I've always liked him, always wanted him to succeed and I feel as bad for him as I feel frustrated by his inability to produce

I hope he leaves and I hope he's successful

 

[slartibartfast]

Soldado is a perfect example of what can happen when there's no joined up thinking between a Dof and a Coach imo.
As has been mentioned, he scores in the 6 yd box and thrives on balls into the goal area. So why the fk would you go buy a striker like that when you don't play that way? Fkin daft.
Yes he had opportunities after AVB but it was too late. The damage had been done, his confidence was shot to shit.
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that we, THFC, a) paid 28m for a player b) paid 28m for a player totally unsuitable for the way we were playing.
Then paid 30m for a prospect.
I still think Baldini must have slipped Levy some Rohypnol.


Just to get him to sign players....


Nothing else... probably

 

[Shea]

Soldado is a perfect example of what can happen when there's no joined up thinking between a Dof and a Coach imo.
As has been mentioned, he scores in the 6 yd box and thrives on balls into the goal area. So why the fk would you go buy a striker like that when you don't play that way? Fkin daft.
Yes he had opportunities after AVB but it was too late. The damage had been done, his confidence was shot to shit.
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that we, THFC, a) paid 28m for a player b) paid 28m for a player totally unsuitable for the way we were playing.
Then paid 30m for a prospect.
I still think Baldini must have slipped Levy some Rohypnol.


Just to get him to sign players....


Nothing else... probably

I remember reports suggesting AVB insisted on Soldado ahead of Benteke

As for his confidence - I agree, but then you'd expect a man of his age and experience to have the mental strength to shake off such issues of confidence

To be honest it's something of a mystery how a talented player can all but turn to shit - I am sure a lot of it is mental or circumstantial....how did the Torress at Liverpool (one of the best and most complete strikers in the world) turn in to the Torres at Chelsea? mental pressure after his £50m transfer? Manager/system didn't suit him?

Or do these players just lose it?

I dunno what happened to Soldado, I don't know why he was unable to shake it off after AVB had left, maybe he put to much pressure on himself and had no confidence left and simply couldn't handle the stress. It's a real shame but best for everyone to end it and all move on

 

[slartibartfast]

I remember reports suggesting AVB insisted on Soldado ahead of Benteke

As for his confidence - I agree, but then you'd expect a man of his age and experience to have the mental strength to shake off such issues of confidence

To be honest it's something of a mystery how a talented player can all but turn to shit - I am sure a lot of it is mental or circumstantial....how did the Torress at Liverpool (one of the best and most complete strikers in the world) turn in to the Torres at Chelsea? mental pressure after his £50m transfer? Manager/system didn't suit him?

Or do these players just lose it?

I dunno what happened to Soldado, I don't know why he was unable to shake it off after AVB had left, maybe he put to much pressure on himself and had no confidence left and simply couldn't handle the stress. It's a real shame but best for everyone to end it and all move on

Maybe I should have said this is a good example of what can happen when there's no joined up thinking between the Dof and a fkin idiot lol.

 

[N17paradise]

Soldado is a perfect example of what can happen when there's no joined up thinking between a Dof and a Coach imo.
As has been mentioned, he scores in the 6 yd box and thrives on balls into the goal area. So why the fk would you go buy a striker like that when you don't play that way? Fkin daft.
Yes he had opportunities after AVB but it was too late. The damage had been done, his confidence was shot to shit.
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that we, THFC, a) paid 28m for a player b) paid 28m for a player totally unsuitable for the way we were playing.
Then paid 30m for a prospect.
I still think Baldini must have slipped Levy some Rohypnol.


Just to get him to sign players....


Nothing else... probably

I don't think it was a straight forward £28m that included add ons which he obviously didn't meet.

 

[Shea]

I don't think it was a straight forward £28m that included add ons which he obviously didn't meet.

That we will never know, as far as I know anyway.

I don't remember there every being anything official or even credible that outlined what clauses we had in in place, for how much or even if there were clauses to trigger rather than the total number just being payable

All I have ever seen is a webpage or newspaper article spouting conjecture suggesting £13m was payable and further payments would be pending triggering of clauses (with no real mention of what those were)

I think there's a good chance we will have had some seeing as Levy is in the equation and I'd certainly like to think so

But he was still given game time which could have potentially triggered performance or goal targets (ok not the goal one as I'm sure he would have been very far away and never even looked like scoring) Or I guess they could have been related to us winning silverware or reaching the CL

 

[CheeseGromit]

How many times have heard of Turkish clubs coming to London to sign a player. Most time they don't come and then only a very few ever go

 

[newbie]

How many times have heard of Turkish clubs coming to London to sign a player. Most time they don't come and then only a very few ever go

its proberly all good till they see the wages then they fly home

 

[lis spur]

Looks like Bobby will be getting another Easyjet flight

 

[Chris_D]

Would be sensational to get him off the books

In my eyes he's our worst ever signing, I like him as a guy and I even think he's a very talented player but he's been terrible for us and was a huge waste of money and represents a massive wasted opportunity

The sooner we can get him out the club the better - for him as much as us

Worst ever? That's harsh mate, we've had some bad ones. At times he's looked ok but he's never had a run in the team and I think he wants wingers going wide making crosses whereas ours tend to keep cutting in. If we can get something for him and bring in a replacement we'll be ok. Wish him well in Turkey IF it happens. I'll say one thing for him, he's never complained.

 

[Shea]

Worst ever? That's harsh mate, we've had some bad ones. At times he's looked ok but he's never had a run in the team and I think he wants wingers going wide making crosses whereas ours tend to keep cutting in. If we can get something for him and bring in a replacement we'll be ok. Wish him well in Turkey IF it happens. I'll say one thing for him, he's never complained.

If you read the other comments I have made in this thread since you can see I clarified what I mean and the context in which I consider him to be out worst ever signing

I can't really see many who even come close - bentley maybe? Rebfov perhaps

Not the worst player we've ever signed - many less talented than him and even quite a few who have performed far worse

But in terms of money spent, what he's produced in comparison to what was expected and in terms of what we needed him to produce and how we missed a huge opportunity to progress by signing him instead of someone who could have been productive - I think he's th3 worst signing mistake we've ever made

The only saving grace is that his complete failure paved the way for harry kane ' s fast tracked progression

I like bobby - I wish him all th3 luck in the world and I hope he regains his form and has a great end to his career but it's never going to happen with us and his time with us has been a complete disaster

It's arguably more important for him and his career to move on and put this nightmare behind him than it is for us to get shot of him and bring in a striker who can actually score for us (and it's a pretty big deal for us too)

I've seen people saying we should keep him for the europa - yea he'd probably score goals against pub teams in the group stages but so could another of our youngsters and at least that could lead to them getting and taking a chance in the first team where as we all know even if bobby does get goals in the europa he's incapable of reproducing that for us in the prem and I think it's just a waste of his career keeping him at the club