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Hes guaranteed to do some serious damage to himself in the first few games, and spend the rest of the season out. It'd be another good excuse to laugh at man utd.
A near 30 year old, with injury troubles on £300k a week is never gonna happen. Allison and VVD are mid-twenties, potentially giving their peak years at Liverpool.
We'll throw big money in the positions we're not strong in - a CM like Ndombele who again, fits the club's profile. You're deluded if you think the stadium and the final run will now allow us to sign a Bale or Griezmann.
Lucas and Son have carried us to the top game in world football - surely they've got to be considered as world class in their own right.
Osvaldo was considered a coup for Southampton at the time and the biggest player they'd signed. Poch didn't like his ego and dropped him - a bit like Kaboul & co when he first arrived at Spurs.
Haha did you just compare Osvaldo to Bale?Could Poch manage a 'Superstar' like Bale? It didn't work when he signed Osvaldo for Southampton. It also moves Son or Lucas down the pecking order, which would be unfair after the season they've given us. He'll be at PSG, United or Real again. Our project requires young, hungry players with potential sell-on value.
I agree with just about everything you say here.I'd love to know what Harry Kane would think. I'd imagine he'd want to play alongside the best players possible to achieve his goals. I doubt he'd be more concerned about what Real Madrid are paying him than that.
If Bale is on loan then there 100% is nuance. I'd only advocate getting Bale in on loan on similar contrubution to Harry at most. I think that could be justified to any players asking for handouts. There's a hierarchy at each club and I think Bale and Kane at the top would be accepted by the vast majority of players.
The Toby dispute happened because of what Liverpool are paying Van Dijk, it doesn't matter what we pay, greedy agents will find a way if that's their goal. Our whole squad pretty much knows they could get more elsewhere and yet here we are in the top 4 again and looking forward to CL final. By your argument they should all be sulking that they are underpaid compared to peers at other top 6 clubs.
Call me naive but the whole point of this stadium is to be more competitive than before, mainly through increased turnover to support increased wages. We are entering a new reality, maybe we need to change how we think about these things (paying higher fees and wages in general rather than this unique situation). We need to start thinking like a club that has a revenue in the top 10 in Europe, not the finanically concious club building a new stadium. It's pretty much what Poch is asking for!
I'm certainly being optimistic but you are also guilty of oversimplification too IMHO.
I think Griezmann is possibly the most overrated player in world football.Barca just bought Griezmann for 125M. They are fucking mad. I can really see Madrid sweating over the purchases Barcelona are doing in De Jong/Griez/De Ligt, they might actually try to offload Bale at any cost possible just to match Barcelona in some sort of galactico signing. Would be typical Perez. Cannot be outdone to this degree by Bartomeu. I think Mbappe or Neymar to Madrid will drag on a lot this summer.
I agree with just about everything you say here.
The only discrepancy I see is paying him what Kane makes. If that were the case I’d absolutely be all for it. The problem I see is that Real aren’t trying to get rid of Bale like he’s a bad influence - they’re trying to get rid of Bale to free up money. Despite the fact that their brand is chucking loads of money everywhere many connected to the situation have said Real don’t have as much money to spend without moving players like Bale and his wages on. I can’t see them being fine with eating 2/3 of his salary because that simply doesn’t accomplish what they’re aiming to do.
To me whoever takes on Bale is taking on the majority of his salary. That’s why I think it’s very likely he’ll be off to United.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-snub-potential-tottenham-15835015
Gareth Bale will snub potential Tottenham transfer as Welshman sits tight at Real Madrid
I don't think this transfer will happen, but I think that last sentence is now outdated. Pochettino has said in the last week that the project is different now. A chapter is closed, and we have to move into a new one where we're not only a big club who'd regularly in the CL, with the best stadium in the world, but we actually act like it as well.Could Poch manage a 'Superstar' like Bale? It didn't work when he signed Osvaldo for Southampton. It also moves Son or Lucas down the pecking order, which would be unfair after the season they've given us. He'll be at PSG, United or Real again. Our project requires young, hungry players with potential sell-on value.
You honestly think Levy is going to pay £300k a week with a £10m loan fee for a very injury prone 29 year old?
Never gonna happen...
Things like “shirt sales” is a long dead and tired revenue idea.I'm sure you're right. But I wonder how the bean-counters do the math on an investment like this...? For example, let's say we pay the equivalent of approx. $20M for one season for Bale. How much money would the club make in return from him being in the team... shirt sales, etc, etc, etc. Does his presence alone pay for the cost of having him? Is it less? More? Lord knows with all the data scientists involved in sports these days, they must have profit/loss forecasts projected for all of these types of deals. Like, at what point do they break even? When does it become a diminishing return? Is it actually a smoking deal, that ends up with us making more than the overall outlet?
I'm dyslexic... so I have a snowballs chance in hell of being able to answer a question like that!!! Just genuinely curious.
Well allow me to relieve you irksomeness, by reminding you to reread what i said... Shirt sales followed by a lot of etc etc etc. The etcs being all the other potential sources of financial remediation that could come out of a deal such as this.Things like “shirt sales” is a long dead and tired revenue idea.
We don’t make money off extra shirt sales as we’ve already made the money. That’s how the shirt contracts work. Nike have already pre-paid us the money and they essentially earn whatever goes over that amount - not us.
And I’m not having a go at you it just really gets on my nut. It was essentially born out of a quote from Real Madrid on how they could continually make their finances work with these huge transfer fees and wages and so “shirt sales” was the claim which everyone ate up and continue to parrot to this day. When in actuality they were siphoning money off of the Spanish government and its people. Which no one ever seems to want to address and still continue to parrot the clear falsehood instead.
Football fwiends.Well allow me to relieve you irksomeness, by reminding you to reread what i said... Shirt sales followed by a lot of etc etc etc. The etcs being all the other potential sources of financial remediation that could come out of a deal such as this.
That said, my apologies for propagating a fallacy. Twas not my intent. Buddies? ?