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SpurSince57
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But his performances for Spurs have been less than convincing, to put it mildly; he's looked good against lower-league sides in cups, had a couple of decent cameos against better opposition, but that's pretty much it. We've all seen Bentley do great stuff in the EPL for Blackburn, so why aren't some of us rooting for him?
The Bale thing isn't an exact comparison, and don't forget that Bale had been getting pretty widely slammed on here, in the usual SC Hero-to-Zero way.
I don't think anyone denies dos Santos is a pretty talented player, but what he does for Mexico and did for Racing means bugger all in the context of the EPL.
brett.spurs
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That's quite a good return for a kid settling into a new country whose been given 20 minutes here and there. Throwing him into a mish mash lineup against a strong Arsenal side and expecting him to have a big impact is completely unrealistic, yet when it inevitably doesn't work out all we hear is well Gio had his chance and blew it, off with his head. Jermaine Jenas was afforded 6 years and still a lot of fans claimed he hadn't had a fair chance, Gio's probably had 6 games(minutes combined) and he's written off, ludicrous. Any player with bundles of natural footballing ability is worth persevering with in my book.
StockSpur
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im usually a hero to zero type but i dont think gios been given a run, bale has and he needs to up his game.
with gds i draw a comparison to fabio at man utd, he's got an atttitude which is slowly been rubbed away by red nose, man management i think its called.
with gds i draw a comparison to fabio at man utd, he's got an atttitude which is slowly been rubbed away by red nose, man management i think its called.
100% agree. Let me know when GDS shows that he has this (preferably against a decent opponent not Murcia on the last game of the season, against Haiti in the Gold Cup or in the Championship for Ipswich.
brett.spurs
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So much for you ignoring me, how long did that last? Not even a week?
brett.spurs
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Sorry but you're the one following me into a thread(again) with the sole intent of antagonising me. Pop me back on ignore :up:
chrissivad
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Pringle's post was on topic.
And its all good for you to tell him to put you on ignore, but why dont you do the same?
brett.spurs
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On topic with the intent to get a rise out of me. He thinks Gio's a bag of shit, I think he's not been given a fair chance, we're not going to agree so why bother? I'm not putting anyone on ignore as frankly I can't be bothered to find out how and find it all rather petty.
chrissivad
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Thats your problem, but don't tell others to use it if your not willing to.
If your not willing to ignore each others posts either on your own or by the ignore function then action will be taken as im sure im not the only one sick of you two having a go at each other.
Like Kranjcar last season?
chrissivad
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that was attitude/fitness problems?
Seems to be getting his head down now and hope we see him alot more this season.
Scored two match winning goals in a row. Didn't seem like he had an attitude or fitness problem then. Even after those two match winning goals, he didn't get a look in for the rest of the season.
Yet Modric has a problem with his attitude, but he started against Man City.
Gio is never going to have a proper chance in the first team as long as Harry is here. Last pre-season, Gio was probably our stand out player. Scored goals, got assists and linked play really well. Then he has a poor game away to Young Boys on an artificial pitch. A game where almost everybody had an awful game. But that was seemingly Gio's only chance in the team.
Then he gets thrown into an incredibly inexperienced side against Arsenal in the Carling Cup and again has a poor game. Again, along with everybody else. Being expected to put in a good performance when you're playing in a team full of debutants and fringe players who've never played together and clearly had no idea what system they were supposed to play is a ridiculous expectation. Especially against a strong, well organised Arsenal team.
It's also worth noted that both of those games, Gio was played out of position. He's not a right winger. He's never been a right winger. Having a poor game in a position you aren't suited to shouldn't be held against you. Kranjcar, Modric and Van der Vaart have all had very poor games when deployed on the right wing, but we don't write them off as players because that is not the position they play.
We now have the players to play a 4-2-3-1 system effectively, which is what we should do. Giovani is well suited for any of the positions in the attacking 3. And with Lennon and Van der Vaart injured as well as Modric being a dick, now should be an ideal time to give Gio a few games in his favoured position.
It won't happen though, we'll predictably revert to 4-4-2 with an unimaginative midfield and at least one player not playing in their strongest role.
I'm on a massive Spurs downer at the moment. ._.
Spurs1960
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He's not good enough either.
SpurSince57
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To which one can only respond, "So what?" Pre-season games are about as good an indicator of how a player will perform in real life as they are of how the team as a whole will. Dos Santos looked good in pre-season in 2008. Then the season began and he didn't look so good, even in European games. Remember Wisla at home, when he was simply appalling, got taken off and was then comprehensively outshone by Fraizer Campbell?
It's pointless saying, "He's good for Mexico," and "He was good for Ipswich." What relevance does this have to the EPL? Having a decent spell with Racing tells us more, but that has to be set against a pretty crap one with Gala in a far weaker league.
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The Gala experience doesn't nullify Santander though because Santander was also more recent.
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The simple fact of the matter is that the only true gauge of his worth in the EPL is to play him in it and see how he fares, play him in an effective position that is.
As Legacy stated, he's not a Right Winger so we've never truly seen him perform in a role he is comfortable with in an EPL match.
And we probably never will.
Like everyone else here, I have no idea how he trains, if he's late, if he bothers to apply himself 100%, if he's surly, cocky or a plethora of other things that are holding him back. If such is the case then he certainly doesn't deserve a shot.
But I really hope he does apply himself as I'd like to see him in the floating role behind the striker. I honestly believe that would be his most effective position, whether it would be effective enough we may never know.
As Legacy stated, he's not a Right Winger so we've never truly seen him perform in a role he is comfortable with in an EPL match.
And we probably never will.
Like everyone else here, I have no idea how he trains, if he's late, if he bothers to apply himself 100%, if he's surly, cocky or a plethora of other things that are holding him back. If such is the case then he certainly doesn't deserve a shot.
But I really hope he does apply himself as I'd like to see him in the floating role behind the striker. I honestly believe that would be his most effective position, whether it would be effective enough we may never know.
