General/Non-Spurs Transfers

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Morata scored 20 goals last season, and he's not even the first choice striker. I know he gets awesome service with the likes of Modric and bale, but if I was a united fan, I know who id prefer for the money.

At least Morata likes to create his own chances. Having said that, I think out all the strikers gained by prem teams this season, Arsenal have got the best deal with Lacazette for 50m.

For an extra 15m I'd take Lukaku's PL experience and scoring record, but either way they're both way overpriced

 

[Syn_13]

£60m for Morata makes Lukaku's price seem cheap

After seeing Morata for a couple of seasons at Juve I can certainly say that he has a higher ceiling than Lukaku. Lukaku is a better fit right now with his experience, but Morata is certainly a better all round player and will definitely get better. Lukaku is possibly at his peak already.

Both are very good strikers. The money for them is insanse but that's the market now. Conte has worked with Morata before and knows exactly how to get the best out of him.

 

[DCSPUR]

After seeing Morata for a couple of seasons at Juve I can certainly say that he has a higher ceiling than Lukaku. Lukaku is a better fit right now with his experience, but Morata is certainly a better all round player and will definitely get better. Lukaku is possibly at his peak already.

Both are very good strikers. The money for them is insanse but that's the market now. Conte has worked with Morata before and knows exactly how to get the best out of him.

Morata price will end up close to 70-75, Lukaku will end up close to 90.....eye watering

 

[DCSPUR]

do you think Kyle Walker is thrilled with the prospect of rotating with Danilo?

 

[RichieS]

do you think Kyle Walker is thrilled with the prospect of rotating with Danilo?

Is Danilo better than him?

 

[werty]

Danilo is pretty poor. Decent going forward but a liability defensively in the game I've seen him.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Danilo is pretty poor. Decent going forward but a liability defensively in the game I've seen him.

Sounds more like a Pep full back then

 

[Krule]

Neymar bid from PSG

This story doesn't seem to go away...the figures being discussed are astronomical....
£596k a week salary after tax for 5 years....that's the mortgage sorted then...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/19/psg-talks-deal-neymar-barcelona
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ready-seal-world-record-196m-deal-Neymar.html

 

[Disconosebleed]

do you think Kyle Walker is thrilled with the prospect of rotating with Danilo?

We should put in a bid for Walker now the situation has changed. £20m.

 

[luptic]

Maybe

Danilo is pretty poor. Decent going forward but a liability defensively in the game I've seen him.

So in essence City have bought two players with the same ability?

 

[Shadydan]

Maybe

So in essence City have bought two players with the same ability?

How?

Walker is far better defensively then he is going forward, they've got two polar opposites which is a good move...allows them to switch up their game according to opposition.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Further enhances my opinion that Pep is a Bang average manager who's won Trophies because he's been at clubs that aren't in competitive leagues and inherited the best players in the world. He comes to the PL and struggles. Fraud of a manager if you ask me.

If his teams played insipid or simple bus park football you could begin to argue that, but they don't. They have so far all played (or messily attempted to play in City's case) a pro-active and very definable style which needs to be coached and tactically applied. Look at how Barca have played since his departure or Bayern for that matter.

Whatever you think of his philosophy, he clearly has one and he is a ferociously dedicated coach who, according to everything you read, does nothing but eat, sleep and breath football, can't eat before games, spends hours honing the tiniest of tactical detail on the training ground etc. That is not "fraud", fraud is turning up in a Range Rover driven by Kevin Bond, spending 3 hours reading the Racing Post whilst Joe Jordon teaches Rafael Van Der Vart how to eye gauge a full back, then claiming Luka Modric "couldn't get a game before I arrived" and that you "made Gareth Bale" despite not playing him for a year and trying to sell him because you were scared he was a jinx.

Even last season an ageing hap hazard City side finished ahead of a Utd that had spent billions and Arsenal with their 20 years of settled methodology etc.

You could argue misguided, too single minded, hardly fraudulent.

 

[hellava_tough]

Neymar bid from PSG

This story doesn't seem to go away...the figures being discussed are astronomical....
£596k a week salary after tax for 5 years....that's the mortgage sorted then...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/19/psg-talks-deal-neymar-barcelona
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ready-seal-world-record-196m-deal-Neymar.html

Putting it into perspective...

Can you imagine if you bought a 600k house every other week, for five years, in a place like London?

Staggering amount of cash and invested wisely, will reap you a crazy profit.

You still have to pay tax though

 

[werty]

Maybe

So in essence City have bought two players with the same ability?

Walker is much better defensively then him. Probably slightly better going forward too. I don't think he (Danilo) is a good player at all so I'm surprised City are buying him.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Walker is much better defensively then him. Probably slightly better going forward too. I don't think he (Danilo) is a good player at all so I'm surprised City are buying him.

He is with two fabulous CB's next to him, two good DM's ahead of him and a front four that defend from the front. Not so sure he's going to get that every week at City...

 

[werty]

He is with two fabulous CB's next to him, two good DM's ahead of him and a front four that defend from the front. Not so sure he's going to get that every week at City...

Didn't get that every week at Spurs for the first 5-6 years he was with us either but still did pretty good.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Didn't get that every week at Spurs for the first 5-6 years he was with us either but still did pretty good.

Did he, really ? Because my recollection is that until Poch's second season and became apparent he could teach a whole team how to play as one unit, everyone here had just about had enough of the fucking buffoon and were quite happy to see him offloaded.

I think Pep is a good coach too, and I think there's every chance Walker will continue for a couple of years to deliver much of the same he did under Poch, but if they don't get their defensive shit together his deficiencies will continue show, defensively and offensively.

 

[werty]

Did he, really ? Because my recollection is that until Poch's second season and became apparent he could teach a whole team how to play as one unit, everyone here had just about had enough of the fucking buffoon and were quite happy to see him offloaded.

I think Pep is a good coach too, and I think there's every chance Walker will continue for a couple of years to deliver much of the same he did under Poch, but if they don't get their defensive shit together his deficiencies will continue show, defensively and offensively.

I don't remember the first bit you mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just about everyone that hasn't been signed in the last year or two was probably deemed not good enough by the majority of people on here on some stage. Most people here also thought Sissoko would be a good signing...

Despite his flaws defensively, and most of them had little to do with how good the players around him were, he's still a lot better defensively than Danilo.

 

[nightgoat]

Obviously as well as talent one thing the players that get sold for huge money nowadays have is age on their side, so they retain some sort of resale value after they've played at the club for five years or so, so it's unlikely to be any firmly established player...but barring the bottom falling out of the market (which isn't particularly unlikely, with people gradually turning their back on the crazy prices demanded for live TV access) it seems very likely that the first £200m player is already playing professionally. Personally I reckon it's going to be Phoenix Patterson.

Chilwell.

 

[ljinko888]

Morata will be a good signing for them as he's versatile and technically good to dovetail nicely with Hazard, Pedro, Willian. For that price however you'd expect someone who can do all that and be a superstar in his own right. I'm not sure he is good enough to be that main man - or even to channel the mentality which Drogba had which more than made up for a fairly modest goal return.