Giovani Dos Santos

[sunnydelight786]

What exactly is his contract situation with us. Has he only got a year remaining or a year + a option of another one?

 

[Misfit]

I thought he signed a 5 yr + 2 yr option type thingy. No idea why I have those figure stuck in my noggin.

 

[Berbatonghen]

if avb's gone and given the likes of bentley,jenas and bassong (them names i despair) a chance during pre season then i dont see why the hell not with GDS (who i rate no matter what people say)

 

[only1waddle]

There is no question over this guys talent, potential talent at all, what is in question is his application..

 

[Ron Burgundy]

There is no question over this guys talent, potential talent at all, what is in question is his application..

Not sure I agree with all of this. I agree that he doesn't apply himself properly, but I don't think he's all that talented personally. Is, for example, his final ball nearly good enough? Is his dribbling good enough? They're both quite good, and he's got a nice (if inconsistent) shot on him, but I don't think his all round game is that strong.

I guess my main issue with him though is that while he's pretty good technically, he just doesn't understand how to actually play football in a mature manner.

He'll never be a very intelligent footballer IMO, which in of itself isn't a show stopper, but I don't think he's talented enough not to be.

 

[only1waddle]

Not sure I agree with all of this. I agree that he doesn't apply himself properly, but I don't think he's all that talented personally. Is, for example, his final ball nearly good enough? Is his dribbling good enough? They're both quite good, and he's got a nice (if inconsistent) shot on him, but I don't think his all round game is that strong.

I guess my main issue with him though is that while he's pretty good technically, he just doesn't understand how to actually play football in a mature manner.

He'll never be a very intelligent footballer IMO, which in of itself isn't a show stopper, but I don't think he's talented enough not to be.

I agree that he will never be a world beater and not much of a football brain, should be much better than he currently is though, whether that is due to lack of guidance, lack of intellect on his part and lack of discipline we just don't know.
Interesting that the Mexico coach was worried about his fitness before the first Olympic game against Gabon, quoting the fact that he was the last player to turn up at the camp for training.. gets me thinking his attitude is holding him back..

 

[degoose]

in all honesty i think he will be given a chance this season, he can play as a striker and on either wing and that it is pretty valuable when as back up for bale and lennon we only have townsend, who i also think will get a lot more game time.

 

[sim0n]

There is no question over this guys talent, potential talent at all, what is in question is his application..

he didn't seem to play for mexiko in the semi-final win last night - only watched the second half myself...

 

[only1waddle]

he didn't seem to play for mexiko in the semi-final win last night - only watched the second half myself...

Yeah he played until about half time, muscle strain i think was quoted as to why he was subbed.

 

[AUSpur]

Yeah he played until about half time, muscle strain i think was quoted as to why he was subbed.

He took the corner that they scored from in the first half. Re injury:


LONDON -- Not everything is good news for Mexico following its historic semifinal win over Japan, as striker Giovani dos Santos could miss the gold medal match against Brazil due to an injury.

"Unfortunately, he has a muscle injury," said Luis Fernando Tena to the assembled media after the win. "[We] don't know the magnitude of the injury yet, we have to wait and run some tests."

Dos Santos surprisingly came off at the start of the second half, being replaced by Raul Jimenez, fueling speculation that something was wrong with the Tottenham player.

Pressed for a prognosis, Tena said that the extent of the injury has not been sufficiently identified.

"I don't know, he's doubtful at this point. We have to find out," the Mexico U-23 manager said.

Although not having Dos Santos for the Olympic final would certainly be a talking point, Tena instead focused on the rest of his team, highlighting the players' ability to overcome adversity thus far.

"The players have a new mentality, they want to play abroad now, they have no complexes and they want to succeed."

Finally, Tena revealed that Mexico's unprecedented run has already yielded a call from the country's president, Felipe Calderon.

"I'm happy that we've been able to provoke such euphoria in such a soccer-mad country as ours," finished Tena.

 

[Davious]

Best time to utilise or best time to sell? Personally I'd like to keep him and see him used more often this season

 

[fortworthspur]

with one other striker on the roster I dont see how we can sell him. he's not going anywhere.

 

[AJW]

His agent has confirmed he may be part of a deal for Julio Cesar. Anyone got any good suggestions of a replacement right winger? I'm struggling to think of any!

 

[PrettyColors]

His agent has confirmed he may be part of a deal for Julio Cesar. Anyone got any good suggestions of a replacement right winger? I'm struggling to think of any!

may be.

Just like Walker, Lennon, and Gomes are.

 

[AJW]

His agent also said 50 percent chance of Italy and 50 per cent Spain. Can't copy and paste as on phone

 

[dannythomas]

Well, you've assembled a great many facts about dos Santos before he joined Spurs, but very few about what happened subsequently. 'None of us knows what happened,' you say. Quite.

You've rather misrepresented what happened with Boateng. It was Ramos who froze him out completely and didn't even give him a squad number for 08-09; his relationship with the club was probably fractured beyond repair when Harry took over. (He was also getting almost universally rubbished in Spurs Chat, remember.) Campbell was actually a more effective player than dos Santos in the 08-09 season, starting with Ramos' bringing him on in dos Santos' place against Wisla. Given that the best one could say of Campbell was that he always showed plenty of enthusiasm and ran around a lot, that's not a huge recommendation for GdS. And again, looking at dos Santos' first-class career, internationals excluded, it's not been spectacular.

Yes but why say internationls excluded ? They should be very much included because that is where he has been selected regularly and where he has delivered the goods. In contrast to his time with us where he is barely selected let alone regularly. In a 4-3-3 we need our wide players to score and i think he is more likely to score than Lennon given an extended run. Lennon is always injured for part of the season and when that happens i don't see anyone in our squad who is more capable than GDS. What would you do ? Put VDV there ? That doesnt work because he contributes little from there . Townend ? Jenas ? Livermore ? Plus if I'm not mistaken GDS can play as back up to VDV behind the striker ( assuming we have one ) in a 4-4-1-1 or alongside someone like Ade in a 4-4-2. I just dont see any need to sell him.

 

[Kendall]

Yes but why say internationls excluded ? They should be very much included because that is where he has been selected regularly and where he has delivered the goods. In contrast to his time with us where he is barely selected let alone regularly. In a 4-3-3 we need our wide players to score and i think he is more likely to score than Lennon given an extended run. Lennon is always injured for part of the season and when that happens i don't see anyone in our squad who is more capable than GDS. What would you do ? Put VDV there ? That doesnt work because he contributes little from there . Townend ? Jenas ? Livermore ? Plus if I'm not mistaken GDS can play as back up to VDV behind the striker ( assuming we have one ) in a 4-4-1-1 or alongside someone like Ade in a 4-4-2. I just dont see any need to sell him.

You find that on the whole, Mexico play poor opposition - particularly in qualifiers. He has had the odd decent game against good opposition, but we have yet to see a real stirring performance in a Spurs shirt. Even against such titans as PAOK and Shamrock.

People will say he's not been given a run, but at our level you need to earn a run. You need to come in and show a decent level of performance that warrants another. Like Bale did when he broke through.

That said, I don't think playing as a winger in a 4-4-2 really benefits him at all. He has a decent cross on him, but he's no winger. a 4-3-3 system will benefit him, but it's up to him to earn a shot ahead of Lennon or VDV on the right of the 3.

 

[chinaman]

Yes but why say internationls excluded ? They should be very much included because that is where he has been selected regularly and where he has delivered the goods. In contrast to his time with us where he is barely selected let alone regularly. In a 4-3-3 we need our wide players to score and i think he is more likely to score than Lennon given an extended run. Lennon is always injured for part of the season and when that happens i don't see anyone in our squad who is more capable than GDS. What would you do ? Put VDV there ? That doesnt work because he contributes little from there . Townend ? Jenas ? Livermore ? Plus if I'm not mistaken GDS can play as back up to VDV behind the striker ( assuming we have one ) in a 4-4-1-1 or alongside someone like Ade in a 4-4-2. I just dont see any need to sell him.

Well, there's always the old, reliable fallback guy Bentley.

 

[gilzeantheking]

A bit from the Spanish version of Marca

The future of two of the stars of the Premier League Mexican uncertain walks and playing in the next few days on the island where Mexico won its Olympic gold. El Chicharito Hernandez is also complicated by competition from strikers at Manchester United. For Giovani dos Santos , Olympic champion, the reality is that finally leave behind its phase at Tottenham, turned into a nightmare last season.
Javier Hernandez , after a bad year, both personally and collectively (the Manchester United lifted the Community Shield over) just got in the locker room a striker, Robin Van Persie, who has high competition and it is safe which to pair with Wayne Rooney in attack of the 'Red Devils'.
A Giovani little time left on the island or at least with the Spurs, but his jump to the continent seems assured after the negotiations are taking place with several clubs, with Sevilla Spanish and Italian Inter as interested suitors. His contract ends next year and renewal is unthinkable. Or Tottehnham sold before 31 August or end up losing a handful of millions of pounds.

 

[mattylad77]

SSN say he's off to Mallorca on a 4 year deal.