GK for next season.

[Spurs_Q8]

Hello mates ..

I just want to talk about our GK situation for next season.

there are news we were trying to get Amelia (Livorno) in winter transfer window, recent news Kameni (Espanol) .. and other in shortlist likes Nuer (Schalke) James, (Potsmouth), Stekelenburg (Ajax) Loe Franco (A.Madrid) and may be other too.

while there are still talk about the future of both Robinson and Cerny, I'm still sure about Ramos is going to sign New GK whatever Robbo agreed to sit as bencher or leave for another club. And that's what we should do as trohies and best teams always come with good goalkeeping.

When I was discussing football with some people around me in last two or three seasons, some of them were tipping Cech (Chelsea) as the best goalkeeper in the world alongside Buffon, they saw him as new Peter Schmeichel after some good records with Chelsea but i was still unimpressed to say that as there are nothing simlar things between the two and still no one is looked as Peter since his retirement.

But now, I'm in position to say that Schalke goalkeeper Nuer is one to watch in the future and he can be the new Schmeichel if he developed and trained by better team and goalkeeper coach in better league league. This man played very good game against Porto today and kept them until penalties, anyone who saw that world class one by his leg in 2nd half ? then made two saves in penalties ( one of them was suberb ! ) .. I really hope Comolli watched the game and is trying to get him ASAP before other big clubs likes Bayren, Barcelona, Inter, Man Utd, Arsenal etc.. His body and physical look looked as the same as Schmeichel, his jump, reaction to the ball and one-on-ones also good and better than Robbo.

I know also Paul Robinson did World Class save against Birmingham and did well under Ramos, but he is still too far of being EPL No.1, let alone in Europe, his jump level and command of Area is very poor. We really need to look for the best for the club without courtesy to our players. There are no goalkeepers without good or world class saves, even Kuszczak made one with West Brom. We should look to someone can be good for us. I'm still not conviced by Kameni & James as options. As I didn't watched about Stekelenburg & Leo Franco. I listen to some people and they told me they are decent options not anymore ( looks like not 100% imporvement on Robbo ) , Amelia looks good option alongside Nuer. But The Italian style of play couldn't grantee me Amelia, so I think Nuer is the best option for me until now.

You thoughts ?

thanks for your read.

best regards.

 

[guy]

One thing is certain we need at least 2 possibly 3 new keepers in the summer. I liked the look of Kasper Schmeical earlier in the season, he could be a good backup if Robbo wants to leave.

I have no idea on a number 1 though, I'll leave that to Ramos/Gus. Im sure it'd be worth a go to get Cudicini from the blue scum tho. Prem experience & lives in London already

 

[C0YS]

You cant have "other options" or "goat" there has to be a "goat" option and "other" option, but........ I'll let you off this time!

 

[mrboombarrakoomba]

Nuer is the man!

 

[Joycer]

Carson ????

 

[DoublePivot]

Just because Neuer had a great game today, doesn't make him ready for now. I made a comment on the UEFA site, that everyone would be linked with this kid after the game. He has had enough howlers this year to make Robbo feel confident. Being that he is so young and has so much upside it's forgiven.

But he is 2-3 years from being the completed article.

Meanwhile, Rene Adler who is his age is already the complete goallie. He's confident, he conducts a much less talented back line, he is bold coming out, he's big and agile and he is a formidable shot stopper (distribution needs work)....and he's the reason BL are competing for UCL next year. Without Adler Bayer are midtable. He has made one or two gaffs this year, but they were what you would expect. I can say this, both will eventually be great and push for the #1 in Germany.

Adler is world class now, where Neuer will be world class in 3 years. Adler is more confident but Neuer is a better Penalty keeper. Had Adler had the game Neuer had today....he would be a 15 million Euro goalkeeper without a doubt.


The one other thing I should add. I wanted Neuer back in August and September. But I have come to discover that Adler is the effing bomb and have changed my mind.

 

[SpurSince57]

I've watched two or three SO4 games and most of the Bundesliga highlights this season, and Neuer has looked very good indeed. I didn't see tonight's game, but his performance certainly wasn't a one-off. But, as far as I know, we haven't been linked with him (not that this means anything); that said, I'd prefer him to both Kameni and Stekelenburg. I haven't seen Amelia at all.

Robbo pulled off two world-class saves against Birmingham, and in amongst the cock-ups has pulled off several others—I'd single out the one against Scholes at OT, and the single-handed one from Young against Villa at the Lane, just before the sky fell in. I'm not sure what you mean by 'jump level', Q8; my problem with Robbo is his uncertainty in the six-yard box and his weakness on crosses. Sort that out and you have a keeper equal to all but the very best.

At a rough count we have been connected with about 25 keepers. For me, it's the most difficult position of all for us armchair managers to judge, and, as I've posted many times, even the professionals can get it very badly wrong.

Edit: DD, yes, Adler is another, and I'd say both he and Neuer have the edge on Wiese. Nikolov's performance against Bayern is the best I've seen in the Bundesliga (and anywhere else) this season, but I think that probably was a one-off. Pröll had a cracker against Dortmund, I think.

Choices, choices…

 

[theShiznit]

I Just don't trust African Keepers....(Keeping and Swimming :doh: ) and i didn't believe that film about the bobsleigh team either :grin:

they just seem so rash, hopefully I'm wrong if we sign Kameni, but what i saw of him in ACN was :shrug: at best.

maybe playing at the ACN just brings out the poor side in players, as players like The Toure bro's, Eto'o and our very own Zokora seemed to forgo their technique for a couple of weeks

 

[C0YS]

I on the other hand was impressed by Kameni ACN preformence, I noted him, even before we were linked with him, thought he was quality, but Amelia is better!!

 

[Legend10]

Tonight neuer was both sublime and ridiculous!

He waved at some crosses that if Robbo had done people on here would want him shot, I mean coming and getting nowhere near them at all. He also got away with a very poor save in the 1st half where he pushed the ball straight back into the centreof the goal when it was easier to either gather or push wide (he got away with it).

Then there was the save with his leg, a fantastic save but hardly othordox, I really have no idea what he was trying to do but somehow he come up with a huge save. 1 of the penalty saves was truly magnificent, in short for me Neuer will be a fantastic keeper but at this moment in time he will also be a liability, he will both win and lose you games. I would say, not yet.

 

[General Levy]

Spurs_Q8,

Did you get the personal message I sent you?

Love,

General Levy

 

[Davo99]

I like Jussi Jaaskeleinan and with him out of contract in the summer, I'd say he'd be a very shrewd signing.

 

[SpurSince57]

One thing is certain we need at least 2 possibly 3 new keepers in the summer. I liked the look of Kasper Schmeical earlier in the season, he could be a good backup if Robbo wants to leave.

I have no idea on a number 1 though, I'll leave that to Ramos/Gus. Im sure it'd be worth a go to get Cudicini from the blue scum tho. Prem experience & lives in London already

Yet Sven loaned him out to Cardiff. Speaking of Man City keepers, a couple of people posted not long ago suggesting that Isaksson would be a good signing; I can state categorically that the vast majority of City fans would volunteer to drive him to London. And, although Hart has looked pretty impressive on MOTD, he's not rated that highly either. This possibly explains why Sven is interested in Robbo.

Minefield, eh?

 

[Legend10]

From what I've seen Alnwick is better than Schmiechel.

Everybody seems to be forgetting about young Alnwick, although injured at the weekend he has done very well at Leicester and made a save of the season contender against Plymouth.

He has only let in 6 goals (1 a penalty) in open play for a team in real relegation trouble.

I expect Alnwick to be our number 2 keeper next season.

 

[General Levy]

I Just don't trust African Keepers....(Keeping and Swimming :doh: ) and i didn't believe that film about the bobsleigh team either :grin:

they just seem so rash, hopefully I'm wrong if we sign Kameni, but what i saw of him in ACN was :shrug: at best.

maybe playing at the ACN just brings out the poor side in players, as players like The Toure bro's, Eto'o and our very own Zokora seemed to forgo their technique for a couple of weeks

That film was about Jamaicans, not Africans. :bang:

 

[SpurSince57]

Again, this is the hardest position of all to judge, and one where the professionals have got it horribly wrong in the past—whatever was going through Keith Burkinshaw's mind when he decided we could safely offload Pat to the Scum because he was past it and Barry Daines was the Shape of Things to Come is a question that can never be answered.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

\Meanwhile, Rene Adler who is his age is already the complete goallie. He's confident, he conducts a much less talented back line, he is bold coming out, he's big and agile and he is a formidable shot stopper (distribution needs work)....and he's the reason BL are competing for UCL next year. Without Adler Bayer are midtable. He has made one or two gaffs this year, but they were what you would expect. I can say this, both will eventually be great and push for the #1 in Germany.

to be honest, i don't know about Adler, i hope to see him in the future and being in good position to respone this one.

btw, are you really mean he is 'World Class' one now ? if this ture, I hope to get him.

Robbo pulled off two world-class saves against Birmingham, and in amongst the cock-ups has pulled off several others—I'd single out the one against Scholes at OT, and the single-handed one from Young against Villa at the Lane, just before the sky fell in. I'm not sure what you mean by 'jump level', Q8; my problem with Robbo is his uncertainty in the six-yard box and his weakness on crosses. Sort that out and you have a keeper equal to all but the very best

what i meant about 'jump level' is he can't jump too high as the best goalkeepers. Don't take it as one of Robinson hater, I like Robbo and I was conviced that Robbo is the best English GK even when he was bencher during the most time of this year, His reaction is very good if not excellent. That's helped him to make World Class saves against West Ham, Man City in CC, Birmingham and may be other too i can't remember now. Let alone cammanding his area as you said, But what i'm talking about his jump isn't good enough and can't help him to save some balls like Adebayor header earlier this season ( Robinson diving ) and we saw it again in CC final ( Lampard shot in 1st half ) .. there are other too last year and most of them were range balls. These goals we can't blame him everytime as the Def. or Mid. are reasonable as well. But some of them weren't impossible to save for better GK if he was with better jump level likes the goals: ( Noble & Tevez, Baines, Nani, Larsson1-4 etc ) . These goals could be prevented and cut the goals against. Look at how Kahn saved Beckham FK in CL last year, how Hidebrand (Valencia) saved one of these range balls against Barcelona 1-1 and there are other examples of good saves by high level of jump too.

Robinson type of saves were about using his reaction, even his World class one against Birmingham (Forssell shoot), it was good jump but it was about his excellent reaction rather than using his jump, the proximity between him and the shooter made it diffecult to save and it may ended in the roof of the net but it wasn't in the highest possible way for the target as it saw seen in his face angle or not in the top corner when he saved it. If his jump is that good, i think he was able to save Larsson shoot. Still saying it wasn't his fault but these goals could be prevented by better Goalkeeper sometimes. ( But i can reveal not even Buffon or Kahn can make like his save against Birmingham )

Edit: Nuer 2nd save in penalties today, was about good jumping and using arms when jumping in one time ( Which could be also one of his strengths ) , not just anticipation in Penalties as some people could say about some specialist GKs in Penalties.

thanks for all

 

[guy]

Yet Sven loaned him out to Cardiff. Speaking of Man City keepers, a couple of people posted not long ago suggesting that Isaksson would be a good signing; I can state categorically that the vast majority of City fans would volunteer to drive him to London. And, although Hart has looked pretty impressive on MOTD, he's not rated that highly either. This possibly explains why Sven is interested in Robbo.

Minefield, eh?

The same sven that took wallnut to the WC? :razz:

Ben Foster is the only english keeper i would be happy with. maybe shay given would leave newcastle now that theyre even worse than normal? Or did he just sign a new contract?

 

[nightgoat]

Quite frankly, I haven't a clue... The only one of that lot I've seen (bar James) is Kameni, and he looks a total fruitcake...

I guess a goat could be decent in goal... :shrug:

 

[CaptainCat]

Neuer was amazing tonight, but that was the first time I've ever seen him play. He was great even before penalties (totally psyched Queresma out on the 1 on 1), but that second penalty save was one of the best you'll ever see in a shoutout. If it's true about him being poor at coming for crosses, like Legend10 says, then he's a lot like Casillas in his attributes. And I would probably prefer to have an oustanding shot-stopper than a keeper that's great at coming for balls. Because at least that can be taught.