Glasgow Rangers player factory

[striebs]

We've already bought one excellent player for the Gers and are being linked to a number of others .

I heard Enic have a stake in Rangers and my first instinct was that was the reason we were using them as a preferred supplier .

Now it seems they are just a much better functioning club than we have been for many years .

Who are the key people responsible for the Gers success in spotting and developing all this talent ?

 

[nicdic]

I think Spurs would clean up in the SPL as well

 

[haxman]

Now it seems they are just a much better functioning club than we have been for many years .

They're a big fish in a small pond, like Celtic. Because of their big stadium and big fanbase they'll always be miles ahead of the smaller sides in the league. I still think that both sides would be no better than mid-table if they were ever to join the Premiership though.

 

[jimmy_the_yid]

I love this debate, just waiting for a scottish/sensible person to say: maybe with our current squad we wouldnt do that well (although rangers have done better than any english team in the UEFA cup) BUT just imagine with our clubs reputation + lure of the EPL + added vast resources from TV rights = very success premiership team.

 

[striebs]

Of course they are a big fish in a small pond but that is beside the point .

Their record of purchasing the right players for the right price and developing them does seem rather good .

My question is who are the people responsible for this good work ?

 

[striebs]

I love this debate, just waiting for a scottish/sensible person to say: maybe with our current squad we wouldnt do that well (although rangers have done better than any english team in the UEFA cup) BUT just imagine with our clubs reputation + lure of the EPL + added vast resources from TV rights = very success premiership team.

I don't believe that it's just that they are playing in a poorer league and that therefore lesser players stand out .

If Spurs are trying to pay large sums of money for highly rated players it suggests that they are more like Arsenal than Spurs when it comes to buying the right players at the right price and developing them .

Who is the brains behind this ?

 

[knilly]

rangers have bought some very good players at reasonable prices.

they made 8m on boumsong.

cuellar for less than 3m and we're reported to pay 10m!

 

[nightgoat]

I think as far as Rangers transfer spending goes, it's not so much nouse, or 'paying the right price', it's what they can afford... If they then go on to be a success and an English team comes knocking, obviously their price will skyrocket...

Remember McFadden, the hero of Scottish football, went to Birmingham because either Celtic or Rangers (I forget which it was) were priced out of bidding... And that was only £5m...

 

[Clydey]

I think as far as Rangers transfer spending goes, it's not so much nouse, or 'paying the right price', it's what they can afford... If they then go on to be a success and an English team comes knocking, obviously their price will skyrocket...

Remember McFadden, the hero of Scottish football, went to Birmingham because either Celtic or Rangers (I forget which it was) were priced out of bidding... And that was only £5m...

It's all to do with tv money. People who think Rangers and Celtic would be middle of the road Prem clubs are kidding themselves. After a few years of getting tv money, they would both be challenging for CL places.

That's why they were priced out of going for McFadden. It's all down to tv money.

 

[si_yidarmy]

scotish football sucks. They are only just about surving somehow in the uefa cup. Terrible displays abroard.

 

[chrissivad]

It's all to do with tv money. People who think Rangers and Celtic would be middle of the road Prem clubs are kidding themselves. After a few years of getting tv money, they would both be challenging for CL places.

That's why they were priced out of going for McFadden. It's all down to tv money.

But they also wouldn't be the biggest teams in the league.

For me, it does seem that some players move over to Celtic and Rangers because they know they will get in Europe, win leagues and cups.

Take this away and they might not be as attactive to some players as before.

I think Rangers and Celtic would do well in the Permier league, challenging UEFA cup spots.

I just hope we never see it though..

 

[SpurOfGlory]

I heard Enic have a stake in Rangers and my first instinct was that was the reason we were using them as a preferred supplier .




They sold that ages ago,only spurs and a very small percentage of Slavia is what ENIC now owns,all their other other shares in sides were sold a long time ago like Rangers,Venezia,AEK Athens etc.

 

[nightgoat]

But they also wouldn't be the biggest teams in the league.

For me, it does seem that some players move over to Celtic and Rangers because they know they will get in Europe, win leagues and cups.

Take this away and they might not be as attactive to some players as before.

But in the EPL they wouldn't be playing against the likes of Falkirk and St Mirren every week...

 

[Defsta]

We've already bought one excellent player for the Gers and are being linked to a number of others .

I heard Enic had a stake in Rangers and my first instinct was that was the reason we were using them as a preferred supplier .

Now it seems they are just a much better functioning club than we have been for many years .

Who are the key people responsible for the Gers success in spotting and developing all this talent ?

fixed :up:

 

[Clydey]

But they also wouldn't be the biggest teams in the league.

For me, it does seem that some players move over to Celtic and Rangers because they know they will get in Europe, win leagues and cups.

Take this away and they might not be as attactive to some players as before.

I think Rangers and Celtic would do well in the Permier league, challenging UEFA cup spots.

I just hope we never see it though..

It depends on how you define "biggest". If you mean financially, I agree they wouldn't immediately be among the biggest. In a few years they would, however. I recall seeing the forbes club rich list being posted. Celtic and Rangers were just behind Tottenham, if I recall. Maybe it was just Celtic. That is amazing when you consider the difference in television money.

If you define it in terms of fan base size, Celtic would only be behind Man U globally, possibly just ahead of Liverpool or on a par. Rangers would probably be equivalent to Arsenal in terms of fan base, I'd estimate. There is also the issue of money generated from home games. Celtic get 60,000 at home and Rangers get around 47,000-50,000.

There's no doubt Celtic and Rangers get their players due to the certainty of European football. It's possibly the only benefit of the SPL. That is one thing they do have over most EPL clubs. Still, the money from Europe doesn't come close to making up for the lack of tv money, particularly for top half Prem clubs.

Celtic and Rangers will never get in, though. It's of no benefit to the relegation battlers. They would never vote for their admission.

 

[chrissivad]

It depends on how you define "biggest". If you mean financially, I agree they wouldn't immediately be among the biggest. In a few years they would, however. I recall seeing the forbes club rich list being posted. Celtic and Rangers were just behind Tottenham, if I recall. Maybe it was just Celtic. That is amazing when you consider the difference in television money.

And Champions league/uefa cup money each season.

Dont you get a lot just for getting into the Champions league?

 

[Clydey]

And Champions league/uefa cup money each season.

Dont you get a lot just for getting into the Champions league?

You do. Like I said, though, even money from Europe doesn't make up for the lack of tv money. And when you consider the top EPL teams are getting huge amounts of tv money on top of money from Europe, Celtic and Rangers are trying to ice skate uphill. The only way to compete financially is to be in the EPL.

 

[mkkid]

If you define it in terms of fan base size, Celtic would only be behind Man U globally, possibly just ahead of Liverpool or on a par. Rangers would probably be equivalent to Arsenal in terms of fan base, I'd estimate. There is also the issue of money generated from home games. Celtic get 60,000 at home and Rangers get around 47,000-50,000.


Now, you know thats not true about about Celtic globally,you been reading the Celtic view again,28 thousand against Aberdeen in the Scottish cup.Lawell stated you had 10 million fans world wide(spurs have 4.5 million apparently),thats simply not true!
Ibrox and Celtic park are only really full on european games or old firms games or title deciders.Many fans buy their season book to guarentee there old firm tickets.Thousands dont turn up for the rubbish games
As for the old firm in the Spl,give them five years and one of them would win it!

 

[Yid-ol]

We've already bought one excellent player for the Gers and are being linked to a number of others .

I heard Enic have a stake in Rangers and my first instinct was that was the reason we were using them as a preferred supplier .

Now it seems they are just a much better functioning club than we have been for many years .

Who are the key people responsible for the Gers success in spotting and developing all this talent ?

they steal all good prospects from other clubs and kill most of them off, Celtic used to do this as much as well, but Rangers still do it worse

for every good youth they buy in they have about another 4 or 5 that were playing out of there skins for a club never to be seen again for rangers (ok maybe a slight over the top answer, but it cant be far off :lol

 

[Clydey]

If you define it in terms of fan base size, Celtic would only be behind Man U globally, possibly just ahead of Liverpool or on a par. Rangers would probably be equivalent to Arsenal in terms of fan base, I'd estimate. There is also the issue of money generated from home games. Celtic get 60,000 at home and Rangers get around 47,000-50,000.


Now, you know thats not true about about Celtic globally,you been reading the Celtic view again,28 thousand against Aberdeen in the Scottish cup.Lawell stated you had 10 million fans world wide(spurs have 4.5 million apparently),thats simply not true!
Ibrox and Celtic park are only really full on european games or old firms games or title deciders.Many fans buy their season book to guarentee there old firm tickets.Thousands dont turn up for the rubbish games
As for the old firm in the Spl,give them five years and one of them would win it!

Celtic Park rarely has under 50,000 attendance.

Simply asserting "thats simply not true" does not make it so. You seem unwilling to accept that Celtic and Rangers have extremely large fan bases. That is just the way it is.