Good chance to try 4-5-1 in USA

[DC_Boy]

with Crouch and Defoe presumably playing no part in the USA tour, seems a good chance to try Pav as the lone striker

it worked well yesterday it seems

obviously can't play pav every minute - but at least there should be plenty of game time to try it against decent opposition

 

[Hrvatska Heroes]

yes, and if we are buying more midfield players, it might be useful to see how we can fit them all in!

 

[DC_Boy]

yes, and if we are buying more midfield players, it might be useful to see how we can fit them all in!

certainly buying cole or bellamy let alone both would push us towards 4-5-1 even more - in that if you play bellamy up front you could call it a 4-4-2 but effectively for me it would be 4-5-1 or some variant using a lone main striker with bellamy 'not really' a striker

on tour we won't have townsend it seems

but hopfully kranjcar will be available along wth corluka - givinng more options

oh and i just thought hudd didn't play yesterday did he - so more mid options there presumably in USA

 

[mil1lion]

The 4-5-1 changing to 4-3-3 in attack is certainly worth trying in pre-season. We can also try Modric and Kranjcar in the numder 10 role to see who it works better for.

 

[brett.spurs]

Kranjcar most definitely. Luka is far better as a deep-lying playmaker who can dictate games from the centre of the park.

 

[Pringle]

with everyone fit i dont see Kranjcar making the starting line up - so if we are to try a 4-5-1 i wouldnt play Kranjcar there.

 

[brett.spurs]

I'm referring to pre-season.

Even if meant for the future, with our current squad who would be best off playing the #10 role in your opinion? I can only really see Kranjcar or Giovani.

 

[Banny]

I like the idea of us playing 4-5-1 to 4-3-3. Thats what pre season is all about i guess. trying new things out.

Out of our strikers who do you think could do that job up top on their own??

 

[Pringle]

I'm referring to pre-season.

Even if meant for the future, with our current squad who would be best off playing the #10 role in your opinion? I can only really see Kranjcar or Giovani.

of our current squad it would be Kranjcar i agree. Gio would be the perfect 1 and i think he would be even better but IMO there is no smoke without fire and there is clearly something missing with that guy which is a shame as i think he is a real talent. That said if we were to start the season with our current squad then I wouldnt go with 4-5-1 as dont think we have a good enough striker to play that system. If we are to play 4-5-1 we need a strong (not necessarily big as people say) hard working striker who can hold up the ball, has a good first touch and play with his back to goal. At the moment we do not have anyone who fits the bill. IMO we are buying Cole to play the 4-5-1 system and will also be looking to buy a striker who can fit that system.

 

[brett.spurs]

None of them would be great, possibly Pav the best of a bad bunch.

 

[Pringle]

None of them would be great, possibly Pav the best of a bad bunch.

Agreed. Pav is a good finisher, but his touch is awful and he is far to weak to play that role. Anyone know of a striker available that would be suitable? I like Forlan but am not 100% sure its him. In the WC he has dropped deep a lot more with others in a more advanced position (Suarez) and for his club he plays in the box a lot more

 

[DC_Boy]

the thread referred specifically to the pre-season USA tour

after they return, presumably crouch and defoe will be available, making 4-4-2 more likely i guess

i don't think any of our players can make 4-5-1 work, but pav is most likely - hence it's a good time to try it

i certainly think we need a new striker tho ATM and doubt pre-season will change that

 

[THOWIG]

Kranjcar behind a loan striker for me. It's by far his best position.

 

[Pringle]

the thread referred specifically to the pre-season USA tour

after they return, presumably crouch and defoe will be available, making 4-4-2 more likely i guess

i don't think any of our players can make 4-5-1 work, but pav is most likely - hence it's a good time to try it

i certainly think we need a new striker tho ATM and doubt pre-season will change that

I know that but what is the point in trying a tactic when the players who will play in it are not even signed yet? We should play a tactic that suits the players we have and at the moment that is 4-4-2

 

[DC_Boy]

I know that but what is the point in trying a tactic when the players who will play in it are not even signed yet? We should play a tactic that suits the players we have and at the moment that is 4-4-2

disagree- harry keeps banging on about 4-5-1 - the USA tour seems a good time to try it

of course it won't be conclusive one way or the other - but why not try out things in friendlies

the CL is coming soon - harry has said more than once he's like to have the 4-5-1 option in that tournament

shouldn't we practise it a bit then?

 

[Pringle]

if we start the season with the squad we have now will we play 4-5-1? no. So why try it with these players? I fully expect us to buy players soon that will allow us to play 4-5-1 and once we have done that i expect us to play that way in friendlies. However, once the season starts, will we stay with a 4-5-1 if the new players got injured? Of course we wouldnt. You play the tactic which best suits your players - simple as that and atm the best tactic for our players is not 4-5-1.

There will be games next season where we play 4-4-2 and games where we play 4-5-1 but as things stand its 4-4-2. HR said last year about 4-5-1 but never played it then either as we didnt have the players and personnel wise nothing has changed. I hope we buy the players soon to use this system as i believe it is the way forward.

 

[DC_Boy]

well we massively disagree - let's see what happens

 

[brett.spurs]

Only time I think we'll see us playing 4-5-1 is away to the top sides in the league and away in the CL - if we qualify. Other than that I'd wager that we'll still primarily be a 4-4-2 side.

 

[DC_Boy]

Only time I think we'll see us playing 4-5-1 is away to the top sides in the league and away in the CL - if we qualify. Other than that I'd wager that we'll still primarily be a 4-4-2 side.

that's the kind of stuff harry's been saying - he's never said we'll ditch 4-4-2 but as I mentioned above he has talked about 4-5-1 for certain games such as CL

so given the CL is fairly soon upon us, i reckon practising it might be a good idea

 

[Hrvatska Heroes]

with everyone fit i dont see Kranjcar making the starting line up - so if we are to try a 4-5-1 i wouldnt play Kranjcar there.

Pringle, I have to disagree here. For me Kranjcar should be starting as many games as poss. I know a lot of people here had mixed feelings when he signed and think other midfielders are better, but for me, I think he is nearly on par with Modric. You should always have those two in your midfield. They have such a good understanding of each others games and both can change games in an instant. For me Harry has to fit his team around these two. He's even said himself that he does that for Modric!