Harry, England & Tottenham, Can it be done?

[fazza]

I wanted to put this out there and judge other peoples thoughts on the idea. Basically, Could Harry actually manage England and Tottenham at the same time, I think he could be the only manager that could pull it off and obviously I don't want to see the guy go now, Admittedly I've had doubts in the past about him but now as I'm sure many, I am now 100% convinced and behind him so to lose him now would be a disaster.

So, That said, Could Levy do a deal with the FA where we keep the man as manager but when he is off on England duty we get someone like Sherwood to step in and take training along with Bond and Jordan, We saw recently while Harry was recuperating from his Heart op that Bond and Jordan did a good enough job, Once the team is settled which it now looks to be the case, Would losing Harry for a week now and again be that much of a major deal especially with most of the team off on international duty anyway.

I'd love to see Harry as England manager but don't want it at the expense of losing him from Tottenham, so could it be done? I personally think he could pull it off, The man lives for Football and is always out watching other games when he has the chance, so he could pull both jobs together.

Thoughts?

 

[Chinaspur]

I don't see why he couldn't, maybe Levy could make sure that he has to drop all the media stuff. We'd probably have more of his time then!

 

[StockSpur]

on the back of aheart attack and bypass surgery, sure his wife would love this

 

[tommo84]

No. The England role is a full-time job as the manager needs to watch plenty of football in order to identify the best players (probably more than Capello currently does).

And having someone else intermittently stepping in to do the Spurs job would disrupt the team.

I am certain that this will not be considered an option by any party.

 

[AngerManagement]

that would never happen

 

[hepta]

With the media in this country it would be nightmare. It England lose a game it would be because he was preoccupied with spurs....spurs have a bad run and we start questioning his commitment to us. Plus I can just see it now....pointless friendly, close to some important league games and Harry rests our England players but gives 90 mins to our competitors players. Just would never work

 

[JerryGarcia]

Are there any recent examples of this working for another manager/club? I can't remember if Hiddink was Russia and Chelsea manager at the same time.


I think it would be asking a lot of Harry to take on two jobs, he'd also get slated by the fans even more than he does now.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Lawrie Sanchez did it for a short period with NI and Fulham.

It was a disaster.

 

[AngerManagement]

I just don't think for a second the FA would allow it if they offered Harry the job it would be considered full time and I don't believe for a second they would let him also manage us

 

[fazza]

So we gotta hope he's found guilty in January then or we lose him next season, Cos right now I can't see any other manager getting the position.

Hypothetically, Say we win the League, tough call for Harry then....

 

[AngerManagement]

So we gotta hope he's found guilty in January then or we lose him next season, Cos right now I can't see any other manager getting the position.

Hypothetically, Say we win the League, tough call for Harry then....

tough in what way?

it would be a perfect way to bow out of your club management career and he could try his hand at the england job.

To be honest I think his recent health scare might just have made his mind up (if he had any doubts) that he would perhaps prefer the less day to day hands on job of the England managerial position (although it would no doubt come with more stress, I think he'd fancy himself to get the rub of the green with the press like Venables enjoyed)

 

[fazza]

tough in what way?

it would be a perfect way to bow out of your club management career and he could try his hand at the england job.

To be honest I think his recent health scare might just have made his mind up (if he had any doubts) that he would perhaps prefer the less day to day hands on job of the England managerial position (although it would no doubt come with more stress, I think he'd fancy himself to get the rub of the green with the press like Venables enjoyed)

Your probably right, Unfortunately. As soon as we get a good thing going on theres always something that ruins it, This will be just that :-|

 

[AngerManagement]

Your probably right, Unfortunately. As soon as we get a good thing going on theres always something that ruins it, This will be just that :-|

I kinda hope Newcastle maintain their form and the FA stupidly offer Pardew the job instead

 

[YiddoJames]

England doesn't need to be full time.

I've thought for a long while, if it means keeping Harry and it's the only option then let him manage England and carry on with us.

Look at the group England have for the World Cup qualifiers. Hardly an exciting or difficult looking prospect is it?

I thought it was interesting how he made a point of saying he loves the day to day side of being with players ina recent interview. Suggestion he might not want to give it up?

I hope so. I fear the team may break up and fall apart if he leaves. Certain players could easily become unhappy if they didn't like the new manager and all the great work and cohesion within the team that has been built will be ruined.

 

[Khilari]

I seem to recall HR saying he wouldn't do it. I'll see if I can find the links but I recall him saying it'd be too much.

 

[fazza]

England doesn't need to be full time.

I've thought for a long while, if it means keeping Harry and it's the only option then let him manage England and carry on with us.

Look at the group England have for the World Cup qualifiers. Hardly an exciting or difficult looking prospect is it?

I thought it was interesting how he made a point of saying he loves the day to day side of being with players ina recent interview. Suggestion he might not want to give it up?

I hope so. I fear the team may break up and fall apart if he leaves. Certain players could easily become unhappy if they didn't like the new manager and all the great work and cohesion within the team that has been built will be ruined.

That's a fear I also have and can see materializing if Harry goes, Unless of course we end up with Mourinho or Ancelotti if Harry were to leave for the National job.

 

[lilywhitecurtis]

Hypothetically, What if Capello gets England to the final of the Euro's? Would he still leave? Imagine if he won it? I know this is very unlikely but is Capello nailed on to resign?

 

[tototoner]

Why would Harry take a poisoned chalice job like England manager, he is not that stupid

Cannot see the suits at the FA wanting him anyway

 

[AngerManagement]

Why would Harry take a poisoned chalice job like England manager, he is not that stupid

Cannot see the suits at the FA wanting him anyway

erm because he may have a long standing and deep routed ambition to manager his country?

Because he is an old skool football person who comes from an era where representing england (be it as player or manager) was the pinnacle of your career

Football has evolved into a game now where arguably club football is more important than international football but Harry is from a time where that was not the case.

Also perhaps he has the self belief that he could do a good job?

Are you seriously asking why a man like Harry, knowing everything you know about him, would want to take the England job? (how many times has he expresses how hard he would find it to turn that job down)

In my opinion the only chance we have of keeping Harry is if he is not offered the England job.

 

[Spurs1960]

No it can't be done managing England and a club as their are no other candidates Harry is nailed on to be offered it.

The only possible chance of him not being offered the job is if he is done for tax evasion and England decide they don't want the bad PR.

Bring back Glen Hoddle, he was the best manager England have had since Terry Venables.