Harry Kane

[Stamford]

Should he be dropped today?

 

[yojambo]

How did we get to the CL final then? Luck? Did Kane not come out of OUR academy? Did we not buy one of the best GKs in the world, have the best CB pairing in the prem, Kyle Walker, Luka Modric, Gareth Bale, Christian Eriksen, Mossa Demeble? Poch?

How is that not providing an environemnt to win things?

There is always one more signing, there is always someone else we can bring in but to say he did not create the environment for us to get to many semi finals and finals is just untrue and biased. No one else created that environment.

Still not enough though is it? All those players have moved on and won titles at different clubs whilst we are over 20 years without even a league cup. Lots of promise, but ultimately over 20 years of failure.

 

[GMI]

Body language experts.....do your work..?

Harry Kane on his end-of-season awards

"I'm extremely thankful to everyone who voted." ?️ Harry Kane on his end-of-season awards and today's game against Leicester.

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[rossdapep]

The previous times we sold our 'star player' (Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale)...

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The Berbatov example has a caveat; the summer transfer spend was around the 'Net £0' mark, but had to be boosted in January because Levy had severely cocked things up and we were in danger of relegation.

Anyway, overall, I think there are historic examples of how Levy deals in the transfer window after a major sale.

The summer we sold Modric was one of our best.

Dembele, Lloris and Verronghen. If we follow that we'll be alright.

 

[N17NBL]

I can’t blame ANY player leaving ANY club if that club are not successful and not showing ambition. We all know that loyalty has been long dead in the game. I would imagine that we have received lots of enquiries/offers from clubs for HK over the last few years and he didn’t go anywhere. Don’t get me wrong-I don’t think Kane “deserves” a move away but he may well have been loyal to us as he was expecting us to show ambition and actually win stuff. I am positive he would have wanted this at Spurs rather than anywhere else. The recruitment in the team has been poor in my opinion and he is probably thinking exactly the same that the fans are. Most of us are really pissed of with the board and owners and I don’t see why he would feel any differently. How pissed off would you be playing in a team that contains players that don’t (seem) to give a shit? And yet they are still lining up beside you each week? Loyalty means nothing-I would bloody leave as well.

 

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I searched 30 pages to find this so you don’t have too for those asking what the hysteria is about.

 

[Zippy1980]

Should he be dropped today?

He won’t be

 

[yankspurs]

Differences in mentality, that's why Bale scored goals in many CL finals. Kane is more of a Pippen than Jordan mentality-wise, wants to get carried by De Bruyne and others. Bale didn't even respect his idol Ronaldo and did his own thing. Kane is still a better player overall though and impossible to replace.

Better player maybe but that means nothing. Kane might have better stats but Bale is a winner. Kane is not.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Could see Sterling being offered to us in exchange.

I personally believe we need to go balls deep for a creative attacking midfielder if he goes, that's our most important area of improvement.

We could get Ings quite cheaply but add someone like Toney too. I don't believe these strikers will hit Kane numbers but we need to replace his creativity.

If we just signed two strikers thinking between them they can match his goals i feel we will be in for it because kane isnt just about goals.

It has been since we let Eriksen goes. It has always been wether people agree or not. You don’t replace the 2nd best creative player in the PL with some attacking 8th in GLC Orr Ndombele or think Dilly Dally is the answer when he was dependent on Eriksen. Especially when you insist on playing 4231 and your wingers isn’t playmaking good enough.

 

[dtxspurs]

Instead, he’d rather destroy the end of our season by selling himself in interviews and turn his back on us at the first sign of trouble and do a deal with the devil just for a trophy that would have very little significance for him personally. City are winning trophies with or without Harry Kane.

The guy doesn’t know what loyalty means. Fuck him.

Lol, yeah its that interview for sure... not everything else.

What a stupid comment.

 

[sidford]

Kane is irreplaceable but we will see today against Leicester how one player doesn't define a team. We will play a properly coached team with some really good players who will show us what the future could be like if Levy finally makes a good decisions re manager and recruitment.

Course I'm gutted Kane is going but we badly need a rebuild and all of summers this window is a buyer's one so we could get 4 very good young players in this window (look at Leicester getting soumare for 25m as proof).

The way I see it is only way Levy can come out of this with any shred of hope to get fans back onside is to actually back the new manager even more than he did with Jose combined with actually selling the deadwood. If we finish the summer with winks, sissoko, dier etc then he's failed

 

[Karol]

Better player maybe but that means nothing. Kane might have better stats but Bale is a winner. Kane is not.

I suspect Kane will also be a winner once he's left us

Same as Bale

 

[rossdapep]

It has been since we let Eriksen goes. It has always been wether people agree or not. You don’t replace the 2nd best creative player in the PL with some attacking 8th in GLC Orr Ndombele or think Dilly Dally is the answer when he was dependent on Eriksen. Especially when you insist on playing 4231 and your wingers isn’t playmaking good enough.

True.

We haven't replaced that creativity in the area required.

It may be one reason why the club could be willing to sell. We let Eriksen run his contract down and only received 18m for his level of output. Thats an absurdly low amount for a player of that calibre.

I imagine that the club would have liked to have sold him for 70-80 and brought in Bruno to replace.

If we let Kane run his contract down he'll either go for less next year or he's happy to run down his contract. Now we can get maximum for him.

This is why I think JJ is thinking its over. He knows the club won't want to take financial hits, especially in this climate.

 

[GMI]

Should he be dropped today?

Yes. Irrespective of whether he leaves this summer he should not be in the squad today at all. I understand, and share, his frustration but doing that interview prior to the end of the season was wrong and that should be recognised.
In reality I’m sure, unfortunately, he’ll start though..

 

[Amo]

When Kane leaves I hope he will have a big interview where he say he decided to leave because we keep playing Winks even he is worthless
And ofc also blame Levy and Enic

Would be fun if Mason put Kane on the bench today just to show that 1 players isn't bigger than the club

I'm just worried he'll come out and say he's doing it for Spurs and that we'll thank him in five years for the generous sacrifice of forcing a move to earn Spurs the cash needed for progression.

All the other fuckeries have been fucked by now from giving the club financial advice to lamenting the dearth in toxic masculinity.

This would be the cherry.

When Bale went all passive aggressive for his move he called up staff at the club to apologise for his behaviour and how his social anxiety/awkwardness meant he resorted to taking the piss instead of talking to the club like an adult. Less calculated politician and more immature child.

Tbh I've kinda been getting wary of Kane's growing political clout inside the club over recent seasons. Felt a bit like Messi syndrome. But I didn't think it was the result of actually practising politics and amassing power. These few weeks fucked all that away, innit. He's a Chick-King Machiavelli, the little shit.

Rooney threatened it in his last contract negotiation with United.

The ruling is a right held by the player - and if Kane is negotiating an exit with Levy, then it would be malpractice not to use that leverage.

That will force Levy to negotiate in good faith - and not be able to hold out for the exorbitant fees everyone wants.

So, Kane threatens Webster rule, Levy can call his bluff and risk losing Kane for £50-60m, or Levy can agree to a reasonable fee with Man City for a transfer that is less than what Levy (and everyone here) wants.

If Levy calls Kane's bluff - then it will be down to how much Kane wants to leave, and what his relationship with Levy is - if it is beyond repair (i.e. Kane thinks he has a gentleman's agreement that Levy is balking on), Kane could be willing to do the unthinkable, and leave Spurs, and really damage the club in the process.

If the nominal fee would be £50-60m then I don't see how just over double that is anywhere near meeting anyone subjective standard for "bad faith."

And even if Kane did go nuclear with that, would any club want to touch it and set this precedent?

Lol, yeah its that interview for sure... not everything else.

What a stupid comment.

Well he's very lucky the interview didn't leak right after the Leeds game, innit.

The outcome isn't really what's on trial here. It's the action and intent that most have issue with. As you say, we're shit enough that the eague outcome didn't change that much in the end (though it still may be the difference between no Europe at all, ECL and EL) Doesn't mean it couldn't have.

Body language experts.....do your work..?

Harry Kane on his end-of-season awards

"I'm extremely thankful to everyone who voted." ?️ Harry Kane on his end-of-season awards and today's game against Leicester.

fb.watch

I wouldn't call myself a body-language expert..

But from the shape of his head and the inflection on his second "yeah", his body and language betray the fact he's a bell-end.

 

[JayB]

Lol, yeah its that interview for sure... not everything else.

What a stupid comment.

Mourinho’s tactics and the utterly bizarre appointment of Mason, who is shockingly out of his depth, were obviously major contributors but I don’t see how Kane’s actions can just be hand-waived away. Surely our talisman throwing in the towel and openly denigrating the club contributed to the pathetic effort last week.

It’s every bit as disrespectful as anything Danny Rose ever did, far worse actually because it was at the business end of the season with European qualification on the line, and will define Kane for the rest of his life in my eyes.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

Could see Sterling being offered to us in exchange.

I personally believe we need to go balls deep for a creative attacking midfielder if he goes, that's our most important area of improvement.

We could get Ings quite cheaply but add someone like Toney too. I don't believe these strikers will hit Kane numbers but we need to replace his creativity.

If we just signed two strikers thinking between them they can match his goals i feel we will be in for it because kane isnt just about goals.

I know for a fact we have watched DCL and toney

 

[Spartanspurs]

Neville is an absolute cretin, a shill for his former and current paymasters. An odious toad.

Carragher is 20x the pundit.

 

[jurgen]

I can’t blame ANY player leaving ANY club if that club are not successful and not showing ambition. We all know that loyalty has been long dead in the game. I would imagine that we have received lots of enquiries/offers from clubs for HK over the last few years and he didn’t go anywhere. Don’t get me wrong-I don’t think Kane “deserves” a move away but he may well have been loyal to us as he was expecting us to show ambition and actually win stuff. I am positive he would have wanted this at Spurs rather than anywhere else. The recruitment in the team has been poor in my opinion and he is probably thinking exactly the same that the fans are. Most of us are really pissed of with the board and owners and I don’t see why he would feel any differently. How pissed off would you be playing in a team that contains players that don’t (seem) to give a shit? And yet they are still lining up beside you each week? Loyalty means nothing-I would bloody leave as well.

Exactly, Kane is putting up amazing numbers this year, having his best season for yonks and yet now there's moronic comments (as expected) from people saying they want him to break a leg... and from posters that hate ENIC, who are the architects of this situation rather than Kane. The only tiny positive to draw from this is that they've been truly called out by our most significant player of the last 30+ years, which might be the stimulus for a proper rethink of how they run the football club. Not optimistic about that though.

Of course Kane has had chances to win trophies with us, but it is still always a team game and that's the point. For example, he's played a CL final where Sissoko lost it for us in the first minute waving his arms around like a tit, and a League Cup final where thanks to a chairman trying to save money as usual we were managed by a 29 year old novice who just picks his mates... in contrast the opponents we faced were excellently organised teams and full of very good and hard working players. So it wasn't exactly a level playing field in those big matches.

 

[TheAmerican]

He won’t have come out with that opinion based on a simple hunch. He’s the best informed of any of us. It’s not a foregone conclusion but it seems that if City or whoever pay up, then he’s gone. The big question is what’s our price? My suspicion is that it’s something between £120m and £150m (and that is a pure hunch!)

There better be massive performance clauses in whatever deal is made.