Harry Kane

[Archibald&Crooks]

Some of you are so toxic about the club, you would rather slander it instead of the guy basically going on strike to engineer a cheap move to a domestic rival.

Bah, that's not right at all.

Lets get this right. Levy has masterminded a fall of epic proportions. That's one thing. Kane is acting the ****. that's another. These are separate yet very much linked. How Kane is acting is very much down to him. Why the situation has even occurred in the first place is down to Levy. Two separate things. So if sticking the boot into Kane for how he's acting is your thing, that's fine. If rewinding and saying Levy is the architect, surely that's also fine. Doing that isn't ignoring what Kane is doing.

I honestly believe that Kane, a player who has never once rocked the boat and has, up until now shown nothing but the greatest respect and loyalty to the club is acting so against type that there's more to it than being badly advised by his yokel brother. There's something else, fuck knows what but I honestly think there's a lot more to this than we know. There usually is.

Personally I think the progress/ambition/eye off the ball thing, a combination of it all is a large part of it, so yeah, i'll have a pop at Willow about that if that's OK with you all

 

[kd2000]

Why is he not handing in a transfer request?
Do you not get a signing on fee or something?

Loyalty (yep loyalty) bonus innit

 

[Blackcanary]

Imagine City nope out of this situation and publicly state they didn't expect it to go down this way and are therefore pulling out of any potential move.

What level of dumbfuck would Kane be at, then?

Given that i'm now running on pure spite over the whole situation, that would be delicious.

 

[hughy]

Imagine City nope out of this situation and publicly state they didn't expect it to go down this way and are therefore pulling out of any potential move.

What level of dumbfuck would Kane be at, then?

They wouldn't do this as they have little to no integrity themselves.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

If we fine him for every week for the remainder of his contract do we become the first team to post a positive net wage spend? Every cloud for Daniel and all that...

 

[Albertbarich]

I've seen some spectacular own goals these last few days, but this is one of the finest. Man who makes living from fans' opinions tells fans to not have opinions. (Also, the lack of self-awareness in this tweet is of legendary levels.)

He's a prick, always has been.

 

[Wadec]

Penny for the thoughts of Hugo, Sonny etc right now.

I know proffesional footballers look at things differently to fans, I do wonder how they feel with him right now though.

As for how we handle it, if at all possible I'd love us to fine him two weeks wages for every day he fails to show up. I would also love us to publicly announce a figure and a timeline. Completely put the ball in City's court.

Honestly Kane should never be allowed to wear our shirt again. We haven't turned down an acceptable bid against his wishes. He is basically telling us to take a 60/70mil hit to get his own way. His actions are detestable and the man is a snake of the highest order.

 

[mattstev2000]

Don't really understand anyone trying to drag Levy into this at the moment.

No one is really talking about whether Kane should want to leave or not or the obvious regression we've experienced over the last couple of seasons which can be laid to some extent at Levy's door, what we are talking about is the fact that a player, supposedly 'one of our own', recently signed to a massive six year contract and supposedly a professional is acting like a spoilt little pissant and seemingly breaching his contractual obligations to the club he supposedly loves.

Levy's problems need dealing with (and to some extent they are starting to be addressed with the hiring of Paratici) but this is all about Kane treating the club like dirt.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the fact it cuts off our nose to spite our face id happily see him stuck in the reserves next season and lose his place at the world cup.

 

[bigpalacios]

How far can this kid go?

Will he be a decent premier league striker or is he a little more special than that?

He will end up being a twat

 

[hellava_tough]

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Kane has already been sold and both himself and Man City have been told to keep quiet while we work on a replacement?

This to me sounds much more plausable than Kane tring to force a move knowing the backlash he would get.

And in the process Kane is told to look like the bad guy?

He's stupid, but I don't think he's that stupid.

 

[14/04/91]

Two points for all those blaming Enic.

1. He's outgrown us - yes we briefly challenged for the league and made a CL final but that's not our place in the world in reality.
Ok we didn't strengthen the summer after we came 2nd but there is a lot of talk that was Poch's stubbornness, not Levy.

Kane always said he'd stay 'as long as we're competing' but I bet you he'd have been looking to move if we were around 4th every year, which is our level, but not his.

2. There is a football foodchain. We've been the victim of it and we've benefited from it. Face it.

But despite this, we will only sell at the right price. We did it with Berbatov, Bale, Keane, Modric and we'll continue to do it, certainly with him. And he should knuckle down until City sell a bit more oil and pay up.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Levy has his faults. It's another discussion.

Kane can leave. It's another discussion.

Kane doing that Neville interviews, leaking to Sun and other disrespectful acts etc. It's another discussion.

But Kane going AWOL is what driving us fans mad. Utterly unprofessional, breaching of contract, and undermining the new coaching staff, especially when Nuno explicitly said in his presser he will have a good chat when Kane is back. And he didn't turn when he's supposed to.

Why is it so hard to understand for some?

 

[Snuzzy]

The guy is showing his true colours. Act like a professional, put in a transfer request if you want to go and wait for City to put in a decent bid. Kane is a classless twat clearly.

Reminder that part of the playbook here will be (from agents/advisers)

"It'll be easier for the club to sell you (and to sell you for a more palatable price for the buyer) if you turn the fans against you. At that point they'll be like 'sell the that quickly and reinvest' and we can turn that into more pressure on the club management to sell you quickly to reduce the emotional toxicity"

Certainly what I'd probably say if I was advising a player and employed by him to facilitate his wishes, and had no reason to look out for the club.

Ideally, we should be no keener to sell him than previously, but as previously willing to sell him for a fair fee (IMO, £150m, I know people disagree which is fine, but that puts him 3rd all time when the top 2 were significantly younger, at a time when money can go a bit further than in recent years due to a cashflow-poor market)

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

His wages don't just fall out of the sky into the club's coffers.

They come from us. Whether in tickets, or extortionate TV Subscriptions.

The absolute minimum of respect and gratitude you must show as a player is to turn up and earn them.

All of his millions earned from THFC over the years have come from US, the fans.

Whatever his gripes with Levy - we do not deserve to be disrespected in this way.

 

[Simon_G]

And in the process Kane is told to look like the bad guy?

He's stupid, but I don't think he's that stupid.

Give it two weeks at City and no-one will care how Kane looked in the whole thing, and on 400K a week, neither will Kane I'm guessing

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Levy has his faults. It's another discussion.

Kane can leave. It's another discussion.

Kane doing that Neville interviews, leaking to Sun and other disrespectful acts etc. It's another discussion.

But Kane going AWOL is what driving us fans mad. Utterly unprofessional, breaching of contract, and undermining the new coaching staff, especially when Nuno explicitly said in his presser he will have a good chat when Kane is back. And he didn't turn when he's supposed to.

Why is it so hard to understand for some?

because some here looks more like supporters of ENICOUT FC instead of THFC

 

[freeeki]

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Kane has already been sold and both himself and Man City have been told to keep quiet while we work on a replacement?

This to me sounds much more plausable than Kane tring to force a move knowing the backlash he would get.

No. I don’t think anyone would willingly trash their carefully crafted reputation as “the ultimate professional” for no reason.

 

[spursfan77]

How does this work if no one offers close to his actual value?

If the clubs biggest fault is not showing ambition how can we let our best player go for well under his true value? What ambition is that.

It is probably a good time to look at the definitions of price, value and worth because they are instrumental in this whole situation.

Price - is the actual observable exchange amount in an open market - we don't know that yet.

Value - is an estimate of the price that would be achieved if the asset were to be sold in the market - This is the actual value that Kane is in the market compared to other players and the previous prices paid for them.

Now this is the most important one here - Worth - a specific investor’s perception of the capital sum which he would be prepared to pay (or accept) for the asset. - Our perception of Harry Kane's worth to us is higher than the market value of the player. This is why it is such a hard price for Man City to get to. Their perception of worth of Kane is a lot less than ours. It underpins the whole difficulty of the situation for Man City. Levy, is a lot of things but one thing he understands is the worth of a player to the club.

Now lots of people might say it is the same for every transfer. But it isn't, this is quite a unique one because of Kane and who he is to us.

 

[littlewilly]

The club, and by some extension ENIC, gave Kane the best stadium in Europe to ply his trade in, the best training facilities in the world to hone his craft, made him our highest paid player ever by some margin. It tried to hire Mourinho to deliver trophies, making him the third highest paid manager in the world. They signed Ndombele, Sanchez, Lo Celso, and other expensive players like Bergwijn, Lucas, Aurier, Reguilon, Sessegnon and Son - trying to build a team that could compete, and for a few years we did. It fell apart somewhat last few seasons, but I don't believe the club haven't tried to meet Harry's ambitions.

We got to the biggest final in club football and he forced his way onto the pitch half-fit and hampered our only chance of ever winning it - the club/Poch gave him that chance, even though we got to the final without him. We got to the league cup final and he touched the ball about three times - other semi finals he never ever turned up, he is never there when it comes to crunch time. Zagreb - anonymous. He's had numerous chances to win trophies with us, and as our talisman and striker - he personally has faltered just as much as the club.

Some of you are so toxic about the club, you would rather slander it instead of the guy basically going on strike to engineer a cheap move to a domestic rival. Not Real Madrid like Bale, he wants to force a move to a financially doped artificial club - massively weakening us in the process and happy to ensure we're not fairly compensated for the massive amount of resources we've piled into his development and maintenance.

Well said. Great post.

 

[bigpalacios]

Loyalty (yep loyalty) bonus innit

Is that 10% of the fee?