Harry Kane

[spids]

I just do not see how Levy can consider selling him now for multiple reasons:

1. If we cave in as soon as a player 'plays up' it will happen again in the future. Every time a rival wants one of our players they will just say - miss training and they'll cave in. Levy needs to take a tough stance on this, especially as ....
2. He has three more years under contract, and his market value will still be high next summer - especially if European clubs sort out their finances.
3. Levy's tough stance with Modric worked to Spurs advantage. Levy also saw that a world class player - once the window has closed - will still perform at a high level until the following summer.
4. He is too hard to replace now - the season starts in a week's time.
5. We are rebuilding our defence - this is the priority, and if we keep Kane and Son up top - they are both world class and the best forward partnership in the league - then we have a good shot at qualifying for the CL.

The only reasons to sell him are:

If we need the money (ITK says we do not)
We get a crazy offer that lands in the 'everyone has their price' zone (ITK suggests City are reluctant to go above 50% of what that would be).
We think Kane will destabilise the team - if he stays - surely once the window closes Kane will realise it is a world cup year and he just has to get on with it.

I still think the best way forward is to offer Kane a new contract. 5 years. Pay increase (heavily incentivised) and importantly (or he would not consider it) a release clause that decreases over time (as he gets older) and is only valid in the month of July (to give us time to get a replacement:

1st July - 31st July 2022 = £120M (PL clubs, exc. Chelsea or Arsenal), £100M (foreign clubs).
1st July - 31st July 2023 = £100M (PL clubs, exc. Chelsea or Arsenal), £80M (foreign clubs).
1st July - 31st July 2024 = £80M (PL clubs, exc. Chelsea or Arsenal), £60M (foreign clubs)

Worst case is he leave for £120M on 1st July next summer to Man City, which would be great business for a 29 year old).

Thinking more about this, Levy has a great chance to have a 1:1 chat with Kane whilst he is staying at Spurs Lodge. He can say "Look Harry, there is no way you are leaving this summer for anything less than a world record fee. We think you are the best player in the world, England captain, and you have 3 years left on your contract. To move to a domestic rival will take a record fee."

He can then say - "Look, there is a way forward for both of us. Sign a new contract and we'll include a release clause that activates next July."

Kane will naturally ask how much the release clause will be.

Levy then says - "Look Harry, Man City just paid £100M for Jack Grealish, how much do you think you are worth in comparison?"

It would not take long from there to get to £120M for next summer as there is no way Harry can think he is not worth more than Grealish.

Levy adds .. "Look Harry, this will also ensure you maintain a good relationship with the fans. You can say you are committed to winning something with us, looking forward to working with the new manager, you really like the quality of players we are signing this summer. We can say it was a mix up over the dates for your return due to the quarantining aspect. And if we do not qualify for the CL next season the fans will totally understand if you still want to leave to compete for the biggest prizes, and if you activate the release clause we'll say you go with our blessing."

 

[dontcallme]

Selling him now would be so irresponsible that I don't even think Levy would do it. If we would have gone out and signed a striker or two like a month ago and had them working with the team the entire pre-season, that would have been one thing. But selling Kane now and only then bring in a new striker a week before the season starts, shouldn't even be considered. Hopefully it isn't.

Although he plays very differently Son has done very well when playing as a striker when Kane is out.

I wonder if our reported purchases are connected to Kane's imminent sale.

 

[Tractorspur]

Thinking more about this, Levy has a great chance to have a 1:1 chat with Kane whilst he is staying at Spurs Lodge. He can say "Look Harry, there is no way you are leaving this summer for anything less than a world record fee. We think you are the best player in the world, England captain, and you have 3 years left on your contract. To move to a domestic rival will take a record fee."

He can then say - "Look, there is a way forward for both of us. Sign a new contract and we'll include a release clause that activates next July."

Kane will naturally ask how much the release clause will be.

Levy then says - "Look Harry, Man City just paid £100M for Jack Grealish, how much do you think you are worth in comparison?"

It would not take long from there to get to £120M for next summer as there is no way Harry can think he is not worth more than Grealish.

Levy adds .. "Look Harry, this will also ensure you maintain a good relationship with the fans. You can say you are committed to winning something with us, looking forward to working with the new manager, you really like the quality of players we are signing this summer. We can say it was a mix up over the dates for your return due to the quarantining aspect. And if we do not qualify for the CL next season the fans will totally understand if you still want to leave to compete for the biggest prizes, and if you activate the release clause we'll say you go with our blessing."

And then he uncrosses his fingers

 

[ilikeost]

Although he plays very differently Son has done very well when playing as a striker when Kane is out.

I wonder if our reported purchases are connected to Kane's imminent sale.

I hate that idea so much. You are taking one of the best wide forwards around and sticking him in a position that isn't his best, just to plug a hole.

 

[spurs mental]

Thinking more about this, Levy has a great chance to have a 1:1 chat with Kane whilst he is staying at Spurs Lodge. He can say "Look Harry, there is no way you are leaving this summer for anything less than a world record fee. We think you are the best player in the world, England captain, and you have 3 years left on your contract. To move to a domestic rival will take a record fee."

He can then say - "Look, there is a way forward for both of us. Sign a new contract and we'll include a release clause that activates next July."

Kane will naturally ask how much the release clause will be.

Levy then says - "Look Harry, Man City just paid £100M for Jack Grealish, how much do you think you are worth in comparison?"

It would not take long from there to get to £120M for next summer as there is no way Harry can think he is not worth more than Grealish.

Levy adds .. "Look Harry, this will also ensure you maintain a good relationship with the fans. You can say you are committed to winning something with us, looking forward to working with the new manager, you really like the quality of players we are signing this summer. We can say it was a mix up over the dates for your return due to the quarantining aspect. And if we do not qualify for the CL next season the fans will totally understand if you still want to leave to compete for the biggest prizes, and if you activate the release clause we'll say you go with our blessing."

Doesn't sound like a conversation that would happen without Kane saying yeah no obviously.

 

[bigpalacios]

Pep said yesterday there’s 4 players who want to move on. I’d love it to happen but I really can’t see Silva apparently wanting to move to La Liga to change his mind and move to us.

He said nothing about them saying he was going to Spurs but just about him leaving?‍

She is involved with the players travels with them but like I said she isnt a football fan so I dont think she listens intently.

This info is by no means solid but thought Id pass on anyway?

 

[sausage]

Based on our history I can’t wait to see the next Andy Carroll.

Surely that's still Andy Carroll

 

[yawa]

Surely that's still Andy Carroll

HG + free agent. Hello!

 

[dontcallme]

Rooney, Saha, Bellamy, Yorke, Andy Cole, Mane…

Rooney: teenager when leaving so hardly a fair comparison.
Saha scored 53 in 117 for Fulham then 28 in 86 for Utd so congrats on pointing out a completely incorrect one.
Bellamy didn't score more for City and Liverpool than his other clubs so again incorrect.
Dwight Yorke's last 3 seasons at Villa matches his record at Utd.
Cole's record at Newcastle was considerably better than at Utd so another completely incorrect one.
Mane isn;t a number 9 which is what I was talking about.

Thanks for your list mostly proving my point.

Edit: impressive that you got 2 winner ratings for saying something incorrect.
Double edit: 5 winner ratings. Very impressive.

 

[dontcallme]

I hate that idea so much. You are taking one of the best wide forwards around and sticking him in a position that isn't his best, just to plug a hole.

I'm not sure. Son has done a very good job as a striker. We can't replace Kane so will likely need to setup differently and buy better quality elsewhere.

Nothing we do will be ideal.

 

[thorntonspurs]

Id take Silva plus £100-£120m - thats a £140 - £150m deal... Its not the best deal ever cash wise but it would improve our forward creativity plus gives us cash to bring in pretty much any striker with the exception of a Haaland

Would rather Laporte in any deal. City will not pay the asking price of 160 million Sterling said no so silva offered. IMHO from what ive been told we should stick to our guns last day 160 million or as i said laporte to partner Romero

 

[Graham Minshall]

Completely. Fuck City. They want him, they pay what’s right for him. If not, they can fuck off for a year or two

I agree with you and trim, but, I’d go one further I’d start him and then drag him off after 5 minute, show Kane, his brother the media and city who has the power in this situation.
I know this could be detrimental to us in this game, but, at the minute he not going to play anyway, so why not say FUCK YOU to the lot of them?

 

[gio747]

The difference there is Kane is better than all of those players and would be signing for a team stacked with creative players and arguably better than all of those teams mentioned too. Kane scored 21 goals in one of the least creative teams in the league last season.

Yeah but they’re also stacked with goal scoring players all over the pitch. Another thing to keep in mind is Pep’s relationships with strikers and how he uses them. Apart from Lewandowski Its always been a bit ify

 

[yido_number1]

I love how the fans have gone from don't sell him to accepting th spin and wanting to get rid at any price. 200m or he stays. Preferably he stays

 

[TPdYID]

Rooney: teenager when leaving so hardly a fair comparison.
Saha scored 53 in 117 for Fulham then 28 in 86 for Utd so congrats on pointing out a completely incorrect one.
Bellamy didn't score more for City and Liverpool than his other clubs so again incorrect.
Dwight Yorke's last 3 seasons at Villa matches his record at Utd.
Cole's record at Newcastle was considerably better than at Utd so another completely incorrect one.
Mane isn;t a number 9 which is what I was talking about.

Thanks for your list mostly proving my point.

LOL - disqualifying Rooney due to it not fitting your narrative?

Not all strikers wear number 9. Squad numbers don’t correlate to positions. Ergo, Mane is closer to a striker then a midfielder.

 

[spurs mental]

Yeah but they’re also stacked with goal scoring players all over the pitch. Another thing to keep in mind is Pep’s relationships with strikers and how he uses them. Apart from Lewandowski Its always been a bit ify

Lewandowski, like Kane, is probably the best goalscoring striker with more to his game than just goals that Pep will have had at his disposal though.

 

[Harrier]

It would be worth giving Shitty the finger just to piss off that smug twat Pep!

 

[Nebby]

When Kane goes, I hope we replace him with an out-and-out target man. Can’t help thinking that someone like Llorente would fit well with what we’ve already got. I think he was very under appreciated at Spurs. Might bring the best out of Dele?

 

[TPdYID]

Rooney: teenager when leaving so hardly a fair comparison.
Saha scored 53 in 117 for Fulham then 28 in 86 for Utd so congrats on pointing out a completely incorrect one.
Bellamy didn't score more for City and Liverpool than his other clubs so again incorrect.
Dwight Yorke's last 3 seasons at Villa matches his record at Utd.
Cole's record at Newcastle was considerably better than at Utd so another completely incorrect one.
Mane isn;t a number 9 which is what I was talking about.

Thanks for your list mostly proving my point.

Edit: impressive that you got 2 winner ratings for saying something incorrect.

But you’ll be a poster who “doesn’t care about ratings”.

Snooze Button!!

 

[dontcallme]

LOL - disqualifying Rooney due to it not fitting your narrative?

Not all strikers wear number 9. Squad numbers don’t correlate to positions. Ergo, Mane is closer to a striker then a midfielder.

Rooney was 18 when he left Everton.

Statistically players in their 20s score considerably more than when they're teenagers. If it makes you happy I will give you Rooney.

Mane is closer to a striker than an inside forward, I've never said otherwise. But there is a difference in the level of service required for Kane, Defoe, etc than a C Ronaldo, Messi etc.

As I was talking about number 9's I haven't included the likes of Salah and Mane in my list.

But as every other player you mentioned proved the opposite I am happy that statistically what I am saying is mostly true.