Harry Kane

[Col_M]

FFS stop throwing random numbers in to broker imaginary transfer deals.

Don’t come crying to me when you @ me and I didn’t see it cos I’ve blocked you!!

 

[Spurslove]

They will be guaranteed 25 prem goals with Kane as long as he stays injury free.
Hardest thing in football is finding a goal scorer esp for the Prem league.

sets us back massively. We may get lucky and find a striker who takes to the prem and we may not. We’re miles off top 4 now if we sell him back to competing for 6-10th and a europa league place

It's very tempting to agree with you, but I think it all depends on how cleverly we recruit new players with the money we get for him, and how they're deployed by Nuno and the other players. Yes, we'd lose the world's best striker, but there must be a Plan 'B' which, although we won't be able to replace him like for like, there may be other options which deliver similar results to those we enjoyed while Kane was here.

Otherwise we might all just as well give up, and that's never going to happen.

 

[Spurslove]

It's probably not going to be 25 additional goals though, they already score loads, it means goals which were shared around might be concentrated more on strikers.

I was going to suggest he may pop up with an important goal in a final etc. but watching his performances for us and England in finals the evidence suggests otherwise.

Let's not forget of course, he's had no pre-season and no training, so God only knows what kind of season he's going to have anyways, with us or whoever.
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[Yiddo1982]

I can’t see City pushing ahead with a package worth in excess of £140m. I don’t think we’d get more than that. If we did convince Silva, you might get £90-100m on top. That’s probably the best outcome possible.

 

[Moonie]

Anyone else keep changing from sell him to keep him?
Part of me wants the slippery little snake gone, I don’t want his poison infecting other players and causing unrest in the camp.
At the same time I want to keep him, if City get him, Kane wins, I don’t want that either. Not to mention Pep and the city fans will be all smug.

I’ve not been this torn since I last went in dry!

 

[DangerMouse]

I've been scrolling through the comments on this thread for a while now (seems like decades!) and of course Harry is awesome and prolific. I am now, however, very much of the opinion that, should the offer come in, he needs to be off. Nothing earth shattering about this comment, I know. I think I have been quite naive in not realising how much influence he had/has behind the scenes...the comments about practically picking himself for finals when not fit etc.
Now I don't know football in anywhere near enough detail to do anything other than assume but, if I were a team mate, it would irk me considerably to see this. Many players must have egos that need managing and so I can't see this influence as being great for team cohesion. Last season I felt that lack of solidarity and cohesion impacted on performance (obviously the Mourinho issue played a part). I think, compounded with Kane's actions these last few days, it will be a blessing in disguise. We can rebuild with players eager to bleed for the badge.
So, for me, if a trophy in a cabinet is more a legacy for you than a statue outside The Lane; it's been fun Harry but ta-ta.

 

[Dean]

Why is discussing a point seen as aggressive. Do you really get so upset at people pointing out when they think you're wrong?

I haven't called anybody names, seems you're the one getting aggressive.

Aggressive? No.

I'd describe you more as pedantic, argumentative and someone who has to have the last word.

 

[Cream]

I'd like twelvty million and Foden please.

Levy hasn't handled this situation well at all. Standard from the idiot I guess. We should cash in on Kane and let him leave on decent terms. We need to rebuild and there are bargains to be had in Europe this season. Huge bargains. Should have wrapped this up 3 weeks ago but levy got to levy and we are weaker from this fools incompetence.

 

[Guernman]

This is where Fabio will really earn his money. The ramifications of Kane leaving are serious but not insurmountable and the emphasis must be on re-investing wisely. Whilst sorry to lose such a talent I would also be relieved that this saga is settled and we can draw a line under it and move on.
Such experiences as this must be learnt from and future contracts for our major signings need to include release clause valuations and conditions mutually agreed upon by player and club to avoid any repeat of this.
I'm sure Paratici will do everything he can to maximise the financial benefit to the club whilst minimising the potential striker crisis with astute and impressive signings.
It's a shame that such an illustrious career will forever be tainted in the memories of Spurs supporters because of Harry's extremely ill advised way of handling this.

I'm not sure I agree that the club should look to always include release clauses in our contracts Romario. If I was a player I would always want one included, but I am not convinced it is always going to be in the club's best interest.

For example, how much would you recommend Romero's release clause should be? His deal keeps him at the club until 2027, but how can we begin to forecast what he is likely to be worth to us and as a player objectively in the summer of 2024 for example? We are hoping he is going to be one of the top CBs around but could we really expect his team to accept a £150 million or £200 million release clause right now? He could very well feel trapped at a club he hasn't even experienced yet. In any case, it's another element for club and player to disagree over when we are desperate to get a deal done.

Historically Levy has always got the very best deal possible when we have been forced into this type of situation, and I honestly believe that Bale, Modric and Berbatov all went for prices far in excess of what we would have expected or potentially put on a release clause when we signed them.

Levy has made plenty of mistakes over the years, but when it comes to selling key players he has generally done well. Let's see how this one pans out of course, but I don't really see how the club has put a foot wrong with Harry. We smashed our wage cap to accomodate him but managed to get him on a contract that his representatives should be ashamed of, and which has put the club firmly in control of this situation.

 

[Spurslove]

Bold statement that bearing in mind how fickle supporters are. IF he plays again fans will sing it I’ll wager some money on it !

The thought just occurred to me, it might be the City fans singing that to him before any of us do. How sick would that be? ?
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[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I'd like twelvty million and Foden please.

Levy hasn't handled this situation well at all. Standard from the idiot I guess. We should cash in on Kane and let him leave on decent terms. We need to rebuild and there are bargains to be had in Europe this season. Huge bargains. Should have wrapped this up 3 weeks ago but levy got to levy and we are weaker from this fools incompetence.

what the actual fuck

 

[dontcallme]

Aggressive? No.

I'd describe you more as pedantic, argumentative and someone who has to have the last word.

I am certainly pedantic. I enjoy discussing points. Someone posted that Kane would hit 30+ goals if he signed for City.

I looked into goals scored by number 9's in the last 10 years from lower Prem clubs to top 6 clubs. My findings were that there is little evidence within this to suggest a number 9 scores more. The vast majority of the players I could find who had done the same actually scored less.

I found this interesting and thought I would share.

The responses have been one poster comparing goals scored by a player for Liverpool and Barcelona, which is irrelevant to my point and a poster who listed 7 players, 5 of whom scored more or the same for a smaller Prem club than a top side.

My interest in discussing points does seem to wind some people up but I find it more interesting than not looking into things.

Believe it or not, I am not trying to argue and I often seem to be guilty of Cuba Gooding Jr's quote in Jerry Maguire "you think we're arguing, I think we're talking."

I've never thought just because I am discussing a point and disagreeing with someone that I am having an argument. If someone says something valid then I accept it. But if we're talking about stats and you point out something and you are statistically wrong then I'm going to counter it.

I have been called names but haven't responded in kind.

But yes, I am definitely guilty of wanting to have the last word.

 

[talbot64]

Been thinking about this and realise ultimately we hold all the cards.

We can keep him, he has 3 years on his contract, his value will not decrease and if he wants the england captaincy, goal records and everything else for himself he has to perform.

He didn’t ask permission for another week off work, it’s disrespectful, however 2 weeks wages fine, some work with the Spurs foundation and a period on the bench will reestablish the hierarchy of club, manager, player.

I think we should have more respect for ourselves as a club and utilise one of our few world class players.

 

[spids]

I am certainly pedantic. I enjoy discussing points. Someone posted that Kane would hit 30+ goals if he signed for City.

I looked into goals scored by number 9's in the last 10 years from lower Prem clubs to top 6 clubs. My findings were that there is little evidence within this to suggest a number 9 scores more. The vast majority of the players I could find who had done the same actually scored less.

I found this interesting and thought I would share.

The responses have been one poster comparing goals scored by a player for Liverpool and Barcelona, which is irrelevant to my point and a poster who listed 7 players, 5 of whom scored more or the same for a smaller Prem club than a top side.

My interest in discussing points does seem to wind some people up but I find it more interesting than not looking into things.

Believe it or not, I am not trying to argue and I often seem to be guilty of Cuba Gooding Jr's quote in Jerry Maguire "you think we're arguing, I think we're talking."

I've never thought just because I am discussing a point and disagreeing with someone that I am having an argument. If someone says something valid then I accept it. But if we're talking about stats and you point out something and you are statistically wrong then I'm going to counter it.

I have been called names but haven't responded in kind.

But yes, I am definitely guilty of wanting to have the last word.

I think that top CFs at smaller clubs tend to score a larger % of that teams goals (as the rest of the team are not of the same quality and / or are more focused on defensive aspects. Also, when they move to a bigger club, they tend to be playing with 1 or 2 other forwards of similar quality, so the goals are shared around more. Additionally the players tend to pass to better placed team mates more once playing in better teams. Lastly, there is also the chance that players who took penalties at smaller clubs do not get to take them at the bigger clubs. Although given City's bad form with penalties, it is probably one reason they really want Kane!

Andrew Cole is a great example. At Newcastle they played an attacking 4-5-1 with him the focal point. He scored 55 goal in 70 games, the first 12 (in 12 games) of which were scored in the Championship. When he moved to Man U, he was then competing with 3 other CFs - Yorke, Sheringham and OGS. He still scored 93 in 185 games, but that is a much lower rate than at Newcastle where the team was totally geared up around him. He was also substituted a lot more than he was at Newcastle, giving him less actual minutes to score in.

 

[Dean]

I am certainly pedantic. I enjoy discussing points. Someone posted that Kane would hit 30+ goals if he signed for City.

I looked into goals scored by number 9's in the last 10 years from lower Prem clubs to top 6 clubs. My findings were that there is little evidence within this to suggest a number 9 scores more. The vast majority of the players I could find who had done the same actually scored less.

I found this interesting and thought I would share.

The responses have been one poster comparing goals scored by a player for Liverpool and Barcelona, which is irrelevant to my point and a poster who listed 7 players, 5 of whom scored more or the same for a smaller Prem club than a top side.

My interest in discussing points does seem to wind some people up but I find it more interesting than not looking into things.

Believe it or not, I am not trying to argue and I often seem to be guilty of Cuba Gooding Jr's quote in Jerry Maguire "you think we're arguing, I think we're talking."

I've never thought just because I am discussing a point and disagreeing with someone that I am having an argument. If someone says something valid then I accept it. But if we're talking about stats and you point out something and you are statistically wrong then I'm going to counter it.

I have been called names but haven't responded in kind.

But yes, I am definitely guilty of wanting to have the last word.

Well, I never said any of those things were bad. And I like statistics too.

But I see this place as an informative forum, where it's sometimes fun to discuss things with people I have something in common with - not necessarily to debate constantly.

You may see things differently, which is your perogative, but maybe be a little more chill from time to time.

 

[Dean]

Man City 'willing to offer Spurs £130m plus Arsenal target' for Kane

Manchester City are not giving up on Harry Kane just yet...

www.express.co.uk

Would people accept this deal? (If true).

 

[jonnyp]

Don't understand why City isn't going for Haaland. Same price but they'll have a world class striker for the next decade+. He's taken every step up in level in his stride and just looked better. He is exactly what they need.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

Some journo called McGarry claiming that 'personal terms have been agreed' between Kane and Citeh (surely not allowed, but no one seems to care about rules anymore) and all that remains is for 'Daniel Levy to agree the fee'. What fucking fee is he supposed to be agreeing to?
The thought of levy rushing to agree to Citeh's miserable £100m bid made me giggle over my Olympic porridge.

 

[Spursberg]

Man City 'willing to offer Spurs £130m plus Arsenal target' for Kane

Manchester City are not giving up on Harry Kane just yet...

www.express.co.uk

Would people accept this deal? (If true).

if true and Silva wants it. Drive him to City fast!

 

[WhiteStripe]

Man City 'willing to offer Spurs £130m plus Arsenal target' for Kane

Manchester City are not giving up on Harry Kane just yet...

www.express.co.uk

Would people accept this deal? (If true).

Obviously!