Harry Kane

[Tucker]

Charlie won’t give a monkeys as it won’t land him the large payday he was no doubt hoping for.

As inept as Charlie Kane has been during this whole saga, it wasn’t him that was driving this transfer, it was Harry. He’s the organ grinder, Charlie is just the trained monkey.

 

[Duke of Northumberland]

Not wishing to insult, but City are little more than a middle tier (at best) provincial club that have won the lottery multiple times in recent years.
Their fans use to be likable, self depricating, realists that had endured decades of under achievement whilst their larger neighbours swept up with an obscene arrogance and huge amounts of money that propagated a disdain that the whole of football could get behind........City fans hated Utd, and we could largely relate to them.

Since winning the lottery City fans have turned into everything they previously despised - the same "money buys success" arrogance and hollow victories that they use to rally against is now the core of their support......and they are blinded to this and shrug it off as jealousy - go figure!

I’d agree except for the derisory word ‘provincial’, which doesn’t work for English football where the North has largely dominated. Man Utd and Liverpool are also provincial.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Ah man. That almost makes it worse - put up with all the media BS and now find myself drawn to what Jamie f***ing Caragher is saying!!

Mind the spittle

 

[rez9000]

Your dad's got a weird name.

It does explain the his son's banal name, though....

 

[KILLA_SIN]

If we give him a new contract and push him up to 400K if he still wants to go to the next have to offer him more than 400K wages or match them and it may his wage demands may price him out of a move

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

I’d agree except for the derisory word ‘provincial’, which doesn’t work for English football where the North has largely dominated. Man Utd and Liverpool are also provincial.

Not sure I agree with you about "provincial" being derisory. The use of adjectives doesn't have to be negative or positive, particularly if they are primarily accurate..... I may be getting old, but it feels like adjectives are the basis for people to take offence, when in reality they are merely descritive....... For the record, being from East Kent, I regard myself as provincial.

 

[CanadaSpurs]

Not sure I agree with you about "provincial" being derisory. The use of adjectives doesn't have to be negative or positive, particularly if they are primarily accurate..... I may be getting old, but it feels like adjectives are the basis for people to take offence, when in reality they are merely descritive.

I’ve only ever heard provincial as derisory when used the way it was.

 

[Fozzar]

 

[easley91]

You sure that wasn't Lucas' doing?

 

[Duke of Northumberland]

Not sure I agree with you about "provincial" being derisory. The use of adjectives doesn't have to be negative or positive, particularly if they are primarily accurate..... I may be getting old, but it feels like adjectives are the basis for people to take offence, when in reality they are merely descritive....... For the record, being from East Kent, I regard myself as provincial.

Oh ok I thought you meant it in a derisory way.
And to your point- absolutely City fans used to be seen as the most authentic and long-suffering and it’s sad to see how they’ve changed, and it seems not only plastics. I wonder if we’d be the same.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

The Carragher piece:

When Spurs bid farewell to White Hart Lane a few years ago, they invited their greatest legends to join the final nostalgia trip.
One player was notoriously absent. So deep were the wounds when Sol Campbell, a former captain and product of Tottenham’s youth system, left to join Arsenal in 2001, it was as if his name had been stricken from the club records. It was a reminder that our legacy as players goes beyond medals.

I’m not sure if Harry Kane has given that any consideration over the last two months, or it occurred to him having brought this summer’s transfer saga to an end by declaring he is staying at Spurs.

It can be argued a Spurs player pushing for a move to Manchester City in 2021 is incomparable to moving to Arsenal at any time. But as someone who like Kane understands the pressures, responsibilities and rewards of being a homegrown player, I guarantee that while he considers winning the Premier League to be the most important ambition right now, he will have a different perspective later in his life.
If Kane commits the rest of his career to Tottenham, by the end of it he will be their greatest ever player ahead of Glenn Hoddle, their greatest ever goalscorer ahead of Jimmy Greaves, and the Premier League’s most prolific striker ahead of Alan Shearer, all this having been achieved as the local boy who became a legend.

People will tell him this is not as important as winning a league title with Manchester City. I disagree.

You can’t measure such extraordinary individual feats for Spurs against spending a couple of seasons in Manchester trying to satisfy a thirst for the Premier League trophy. Unlike those players who are not so connected to the club and their community, short-term gain would have come with a longer-term sacrifice.

As footballers at the peak of our powers, stuck in our bubbles season after season, we naturally want it all. We crave the hero worship of our hometown, but want this alongside winning the biggest prizes. Only a rare few can have that level of adulation at their neighbourhood clubs, allied with the ultimate success.

I am not talking about everyone who has ever won a Champions League or Premier League winners’ medal, but those who win everything as local gods, symbols of the clubs and area they represented; players of the stature of Ryan Giggs at Manchester United or John Terry at Chelsea, to name two.

Others rightly assume such legendary status at their boyhood club despite never winning the trophies they most craved. At the moment, Kane comes into that category, which is why him staying put is worthy of celebration for Spurs fans. Yes, a fee of £100 million is massive for a 28-year-old striker, but certain players are worth more than a transfer fee. They are emblems of their club, representatives of their fans' dreams.

When Spurs fans sing "he is one of our own" about Kane they are taking pride in an academy graduate who they believe understands them. As when Wayne Rooney left Everton as a teenager, when such players go or threaten to leave, it hurts more because they are demoralising those fans who know their club is not at the level it needs to be, but embrace the world-class, homegrown talent who gives them hope.
Spurs’ fans have been wrestling with their emotions over the last few months, initially refusing to believe their hero would agitate for a move, and then demonstrating the first hint of anger as the reality gripped and they chanted "are you watching Harry Kane" when Spurs defeated Manchester City on the opening weekend of this season.

The fans’ response felt like a critical moment. Kane would have imagined leaving north London with a handshake and understanding given his service to the club, Spurs consoled by how much they received for him. Sensing the mood turn against him will have deeply hurt and worried him.

He knew there was no way of leaving on good terms, and no way of guaranteeing an invitation to any post-career reunions. That is not going to have changed by next January, or next summer, so I would strongly recommend against Kane going down the route of prolonging this saga into future transfer windows.

Having accepted staying at Spurs for now, Kane would be wise to make peace with the idea of doing so for good, and embracing one of football's eternal truths: “Your name is more important than any trophy.”

I’m not convinced Carragher wrote this himself.

There’s no way a crayon could manage that many words

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

I’ve only ever heard provincial as derisory when used the way it was.

Oh, it certainly has its interpretations..... Is being provincial derisory? Perhaps less fashionable and more family orientated? I certainly didn't mean it in a negative context.

 

[philll]

 

[degoose]

It seems like people still trust the newspapers. If they knew how it worked (sell advertising then have to create stories for the space they need to fill) then they would give the required amount of salt to these articles. They are called stories for a reason.

Yeah exactly. The problem you get these days is papers need to sell, to do that they need news and if there is no news it can just be made up with no quotes and people will just take it as truth. If the story is even spicier then even better for sales and now website clicks.

 

[McFlash]

Grow up, it's football.

You "grow up"!
This is a football forum and @jeremystorey is perfectly entitled to say what he did.
It's not like he had a massive melt-down about the transfer window like some do, when you'd be more than entitled to react as you did.

 

[the yid]

I'm 39, whats a 'chat room'?

31 ... ASL??

 

[XIIIMPC]

This is a funny take on the Sun’s reporting of the saga:

Kane destroyed by nation's best-selling paper after Spurs move collapses

The Sun have used Harry Kane all summer but the second he is no longer of any benefit to them they dismantle the Spurs striker's reputation.

www.football365.com

I don't know how anybody can read that thing unironically. It's been decades of this shit, the same tactics, the same extreme language. How can anyone still be duped? Thankfully with so many different news sources its influence is slightly diluted, but jesus christ.

 

[Pochie]

I’m not convinced Carragher wrote this himself.

There’s no way a crayon could manage that many words

Whoever wrote it, it's definitely true. And Carragher endorses it. Some players are lucky enough to be taken to people's hearts in a way that is deep and true. Harry Kane is one such player.

We've watched him grow up - as a player, as a man. I really hopes he stays with us for his whole career and I really hope we win something this season to get that trophy nonsense off his back.

 

[Pochie]

LOVE this guy! ?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Did you seriously just tell me to “grow up”? Because I bitched about a manager on a message board about football?

Seriously don’t understand why you would speak to someone that way and think it’s okay. Odd.

Grow up!