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knowlespurs

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Or get him to sign a new contract, put in clause to say if we don't get CL he can leave if a club bids 90million. That way it's clear what we want and what we would sell him for.
Why would he do that, he can leave for free in a year
 

McFlash

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It would be losing a £80M asset for nothing.

That is what he is worth to the club - not what we paid to get him.

Ultimately we have to replace him. It won't be easy, and it won't be a similar player. We can do that with £80M, or we can do that with £0 - I know which one makes more sense.


Now - when the offers are close to £50M - then it makes sense to gamble on a bigger payday next year. But, if we got a legitimate offer - we have to consider that the club is bigger than any one player - even one of Kane's stature.

I don't share your optimism for Kane sticking around -I think he has seen enough, and wants to see what else is out there. And, if he were inclined to finish his career here - then he and Levy would have agreed to a contract extension already, instead of his brother and dad talking to Bayern.
On your last paragraph, I don't really agree.
I think he's considering leaving but would love nothing more than to stay at Spurs, the reason nothing has been agreed yet is because we've been a shit show for the past few years and that's not exactly been an appealing proposition for him.

This really is our last chance to convince him that we're moving in the right direction and I don't think he's all about how many trophies he can get, there's more to him than that.
One trophy with us would mean so much more than a couple at Bayern.

With regards to his value and how much we could get for him, I guess it's a subjective and also an emotional decision for us fans.

I can totally understand why some would take the money and run but for me, I'm more of a stubborn, back to the wall and fuck off type.
I'll quite happily cut my nose off to spite my face for my principals and in this case, I'd keep him him for one last season and then wave him a warm goodbye.

Even 80m isn't enough for me, we shouldn't be dependant of selling our prized asset to be able to afford a proper rebuild. We're not a poor club.
 

lobob8

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On your last paragraph, I don't really agree.
I think he's considering leaving but would love nothing more than to stay at Spurs, the reason nothing has been agreed yet is because we've been a shit show for the past few years and that's not exactly been an appealing proposition for him.

This really is our last chance to convince him that we're moving in the right direction and I don't think he's all about how many trophies he can get, there's more to him than that.
One trophy with us would mean so much more than a couple at Bayern.

With regards to his value and how much we could get for him, I guess it's a subjective and also an emotional decision for us fans.

I can totally understand why some would take the money and run but for me, I'm more of a stubborn, back to the wall and fuck off type.
I'll quite happily cut my nose off to spite my face for my principals and in this case, I'd keep him him for one last season and then wave him a warm goodbye.

Even 80m isn't enough for me, we shouldn't be dependant of selling our prized asset to be able to afford a proper rebuild. We're not a poor club.
Agree with every word. I don't even think 100m would be enough to say goodbye to him, for me.
 

robotsonic

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My stance on this all along is that I'd like to see him see out his deal this year, and either sign another or walk. Can talk about turning down money all you like, but he's worth nothing to the club on the books, and I imagine brings in a shitload of money and attention just by being here. If he walks, it's cost us nothing, not 100M, or whatever is bandied about.

We can afford to replace him if we need to, and we would absolutely have to, but the pond we're fishing in if we get rid of him now is tiny compared to if we have a good season next year, which is easier with him in the side. Not to mention the cost of every other player we try to sign for 12 months being inflated to the point that the 100M is going to be worth half that in actuality with the tax we'll be paying because everyone knows we're flush.

Flush tax, minus marketing revenue and prestige of having England's captain as your striker, makes 100M quid worth about 25M to the club imo. It's just not worth it.
 

KingNick

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Also, if We really want to support the new manager properly, we make sure he’s got the club’s best player available to him.

The transition will be so much easier with someone in the team we KNOW can score goals out of nothing even when we are playing terribly.

Any replacement signing is a risk in that regard and things could go very differently and end up costing far more if we have a poor start. Kane mitigates that risk significantly and even if gone in a year, can help to build a foundation under the new manager.
 

McFlash

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Also, if We really want to support the new manager properly, we make sure he’s got the club’s best player available to him.

The transition will be so much easier with someone in the team we KNOW can score goals out of nothing even when we are playing terribly.

Any replacement signing is a risk in that regard and things could go very differently and end up costing far more if we have a poor start. Kane mitigates that risk significantly and even if gone in a year, can help to build a foundation under the new manager.
Yup, and Kane won't go full Eriksen and phone it in next season.
Even if he does have his heart set on leaving, he'll still work his nuts off to score and create because that's what he's all about, goals and records.

The fact he gave each England member a smashed record trophy to thank them for helping him to become the record scorer, just shows how highly he rates these personal accolades.
I've got a feeling that breaking Shearers record has become his most important career goal and he ain't doing that abroad.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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United really don’t have any chance of challenging for the title.

and if we change our approach to cups, they offer nothing we don’t.
Is that next season or the one after that? And the next. I think they will be up for it the following season if not this. They have a very good squad and will invest heavily this season and next. I see no reason taking my bigoted Spurs hat off to not sign for utd. They will win things. Sad to say watching the Levy train we are not seeing the same investment.
 

HobbitSpur

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Does it mean we give up replacing him ? We can’t replace Kane. We need striker who can get 20 goals - that’s should be our aim and then build the squad to help achieve the overall goal
We don’t necessarily need to replace Kane. We need to build a team and a style that will score us 25/30 more goals without him (obviously less if we sort our defence out).

Arse didn’t have a player who scored more than 15 goals last season.

I would hate to see Kane go, but perhaps the best thing would be for him to go. We have been to dependant/reliant on one player for too long.

And he’s 30 next season ffs, his time is running out wherever he plays.
 

Yid-ol

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Why would he do that, he can leave for free in a year
Depends on how much he loves the club, if he does you would surely want the club to get some transfer funds.

But I doubt it would happen as would mean bigger signing on fee for him if moved on a free, and most players would take that.
 

Joshua shepherd

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Is that next season or the one after that? And the next. I think they will be up for it the following season if not this. They have a very good squad and will invest heavily this season and next. I see no reason taking my bigoted Spurs hat off to not sign for utd. They will win things. Sad to say watching the Levy train we are not seeing the same investment.

People have been saying that since Fergie left, they’ve not come consistently close since. They’re a long way behind even now and have big conflicts at board level, they’re a long way from challenging imo.
 

KingNick

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Is that next season or the one after that? And the next. I think they will be up for it the following season if not this. They have a very good squad and will invest heavily this season and next. I see no reason taking my bigoted Spurs hat off to not sign for utd. They will win things. Sad to say watching the Levy train we are not seeing the same investment.
I don’t believe they have a good squad at all, hence why they’ve got more players available for transfer than us. Ten Haag steadied them without really looking like he could do anything significant. And Man City will be untouchable for the foreseeable. So if Kane wants a title, going there doesn’t offer very good odds at all.
 

punkisback

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My stance on this all along is that I'd like to see him see out his deal this year, and either sign another or walk. Can talk about turning down money all you like, but he's worth nothing to the club on the books, and I imagine brings in a shitload of money and attention just by being here. If he walks, it's cost us nothing, not 100M, or whatever is bandied about.

We can afford to replace him if we need to, and we would absolutely have to, but the pond we're fishing in if we get rid of him now is tiny compared to if we have a good season next year, which is easier with him in the side. Not to mention the cost of every other player we try to sign for 12 months being inflated to the point that the 100M is going to be worth half that in actuality with the tax we'll be paying because everyone knows we're flush.

Flush tax, minus marketing revenue and prestige of having England's captain as your striker, makes 100M quid worth about 25M to the club imo. It's just not worth it.
Cl qualification and a great run in the CL is worth £100 mil almost. Better to keep him and see if he can bring value doing that.
 

Spursmatty87

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If Kanes talked to everyone and said I want to go and there is no way I will sign a new contract next season even if we won the league, then we absolutely should sell him. It would be ridiculous not too. At least selling to Bayern save face. Put in the contract (like they did with bale) that the fee increases if they sell back to the pl.
 

worcestersauce

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I don't want Kane to go, I hope he doesn't go but if he doesn't sign a new contract and a gargantuan bid comes in that Kane may consider then we ought to take it. Getting circa £100mil helps and supports our new coach a whole lot more than him going next year and our new coach getting nothing to help him build his team. Kane for a season and no money ain't no help to him at all.
At the end of the season I thought he'd go because there was no reason to stay, hopefully he's caught the optimism bug like most of us now but he still needs to sign up. I'll see how we go with the players we bring in, if it's a lot then I think it's shaping up like the Bale window.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Might be off base here but to me, the money’s kind of irrelevant - losing one of the best players in the world that we couldn’t replace would almost certainly mean a worse season - so less prize money, less tv money, less fan interaction. Besides, I can’t believe the summer of 2013 didn’t convince our fans that selling your best player will always make your team worse.

Agree with this. He isn’t just any player. He is our best ever player. Tottenham through and through. It’s not a decision that is taken likely. He is irreplaceable for more reasons than just his ability in the pitch. It’s what he means to the club as a whole.

I think Levy will be thinking this way. Sell him and the narrative will be that we have wasted the best ever talent to come through the academy. Keep him and at least there is a small chance he might sign another contract if we have super season (unlikely I know). But from Levy’s point of view, if there is just a small chance it’s better to give it a go than sell up now.
 

Spursmatty87

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People saying they don’t care about the money will have a different view next season when we sign a FW for £40m instead of £70-80m and Kanes holding a Man U shirt.
 
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