Harry Kane

[chelmyid]

Yes I've played sports and never have I been concerned or changed my game because of what might happen the next season.
Are you thinking the players are not going to work well because Kane might leave next year? It's ridiculous. Also he's hardly going to down tools. I bet he would still be player of the season.
My last season playing football was the last before the team folded and I got player of the season. I wasn't thinking about the next year at all. You just get on with it. Nobody thinks ahead to next season, you stay focused on the current one.

You are more than entitled to your opinion as am I.
To suggest it’s ridiculous and be personal because you disagree with me is a bit childish!
I haven’t once said players will down tools or Kane will himself. I just suggested that there will be a cloud over the club that might be detrimental to our season as a whole.
I was expressing a thought process that is a very real possibility and not once dismissing yours as a possibility either - however it appears you can’t have a simple conversation with differing options without getting personal! Congratulations on getting player of the season before your team folded - what that has to do with Tottenham and Kane I’ll never know - but I am genuinely happy for you.

 

[Maxtremist]

The copium is real.

In my opinion if you are a supporter, then Kane means more to us than just being the best striker in the world and he is more than a number on a financial spreadsheet

I think two things can be true. Yes, Kane means a lot to so many of us and the club and we want him to stay.

We also can believe that Tottenham is more than Kane and if he goes, Tottenham can and will 'survive' (which I personally don't want)


Overall, I would want us to keep Kane, both for football and sentimental reasons. I think if we can keep Kane this year, we have a significantly better chance at making Europe next year, especially the CL, and if that happens we have a better chance at either keeping Kane or replacing him with a better option.

I think if he moves this summer, I will be sad but won't begrudge him of the move. I do think that whilst we may get the money this year if we sold him, we'd actually be in a worse position to get a replacement. Because who'd want to come in then? What would we have to offer? Next year if we do get Europe then not only do we have that to offer a new player, we also (I would assume) would have the good football that Ange plays if it's taken us to Europe.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Didn't Tuchel say a while back that he thinks Kane is the best striker in the world, that + Bayern have always talked up Harry Kane themselves might mean that this one really has legs.

Kane isn't going to City right now because of Haaland, Man.U won't stump up the cash and we won't want to sell to a PL rival, but Kane wants to win trophies and play in the CL and at Bayern he is basically guaranteed trophies, he'd have a small chance every season of winning the Champions League and from our perspective we could get £80m+ rather than him leaving on a free next season potentially to someone like Bayern anyway, it all seems to make a heck of a lot of sense for this deal to get done.

We might as fans think crazy for Kane to throw away the chance of Shearer's record and move him family to Germany but Germany is a nice well run country and most people speak very good English so his family and young kids should adapt well and at some point with Kane's career something has to give. We are not even in Europe next season and I think Kane will just be thinking he is way better than our level right now and at 29 his time is slowly running out.

We might also think what would a few Bundesliga's mean but for Kane its a chance to play for a truly elite super club, he would be in with a chance of winning not just Bundesliga but the German cups and more importantly he'd have a chance of winning the CL every season so all of those things combined are a big pull. He could sign say a 3 year deal with them, win some trophies, experience a different culture and superclub and then he'd still in his mind have a few years left in his legs to maybe who knows move back to Tottenham or even City or Man,U etc in a few years time and try to then break Shearer's record.

If it were me I'd rather keep my family in England and go for Shearer's record but I can see why after so many years of false hope and underachievement at Spurs as well as him getting denied his City move he might just be thinking right this summer I want out and Bayern is a pretty decent option.

So the Q really is assuming the above is fairly accurate then will Bayern up their offer to a valuation we deem acceptable to let Harry leave or not and if so lets hope its done soon so we can factor this into our pre-season without any distractions, wish him well and move on.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Oh come off it let's be real, we're lucky he's hung around this shit show the last few years. He doesn't owe us anything.

True and moving on a free to a non London PL rival isn't the worst move but if he really wants to keep his legacy at Spurs special then he should move to Bayern / abroad and not to a rival PL team.

 

[dontcallme]

Rice with 1 year on his contract goes to Arsenal for 105m.

But we'd sell Kane with 1 year left for less?

I know who I'd rather have in my team out of those 2.

But they'll have Rice for a number of years and can potentially recoup some money when it's time for him to move on. If he does well for them and they don't sell, then he can be there for at least 8 seasons.

Kane will go for less, simply because there's no sell on value and he likely has around 4 more seasons at the top level.

 

[BujuBanton]

I mentioned somewhere on this site a few weeks ago that Tuchel had flown into london to meet with Kanes reps.

private jet, biggin hill airport. It deffo happened

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Rice with 1 year on his contract goes to Arsenal for 105m.

But we'd sell Kane with 1 year left for less?

I know who I'd rather have in my team out of those 2.

Kane is 29, Rice is 24.

If Rice is £105mil to a PL team then Kane should be £80-100mil to Bayern

 

[Japhet]

I mentioned somewhere on this site a few weeks ago that Tuchel had flown into london to meet with Kanes reps.

private jet, biggin hill airport. It deffo happened

No hint of tapping up there then.

 

[spursfan77]

I mentioned somewhere on this site a few weeks ago that Tuchel had flown into london to meet with Kanes reps.

private jet, biggin hill airport. It deffo happened

I dont doubt that at all. If Bayern want to speak to you and your agent, then you do it. Whether that's because you want a transfer today or you want to tee something up for 12 months time. You'd be negligent as an agent not to take that meeting. But then you'd also be negligent as an agent to suggest to your client to move this summer when you could double your money and triple your signing on fee in 12 months time.

 

[Gb160]

True and moving on a free to a non London PL rival isn't the worst move but if he really wants to keep his legacy at Spurs special then he should move to Bayern / abroad and not to a rival PL team.

I think he feels his individual legacy is important but I also think Spurs fans are overplaying the importance of his 'Tottenham Legacy'.
He wouldn't have tried forcing his way out a couple of years ago if it meant that much to him.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

The other big Q would be who on earth do we sign to replace him?

Richy up top as a pressing n.o9 under Ange like he is for Brazil and with the goals being spread around the team a lot more could be exciting but with his injury record and lack of form for us so far we'd 100% need to sign another top striker option, ideally of good quality but also aged around 22-25 to set us up long-term.

Kyogo from Celtic is class and I do think he could do a job for us in our squad in the PL but he is 28 I think and just signed a new 4 year deal so that is not an option and really we probably need someone of better quality than him coming in.

If Toney wasn't banned he'd be an interesting option but perhaps not suited as a pressing type forward, Watkins at Villa would be but doubt they'll sell and not 100% sure either of them are quite good enough so we'd probably then be looking abroad at options.

 

[dontcallme]

The other big Q would be who on earth do we sign to replace him?

Richy up top as a pressing n.o9 under Ange like he is for Brazil and with the goals being spread around the team a lot more could be exciting but with his injury record and lack of form for us so far we'd 100% need to sign another top striker option, ideally of good quality but also aged around 22-25 to set us up long-term.

Kyogo from Celtic is class and I do think he could do a job for us in our squad in the PL but he is 28 I think and just signed a new 4 year deal so that is not an option and really we probably need someone of better quality than him coming in.

If Toney wasn't banned he'd be an interesting option but perhaps not suited as a pressing type forward, Watkins at Villa would be but doubt they'll sell and not 100% sure either of them are quite good enough so we'd probably then be looking abroad at options.

I'm not convinced we would replace him.

In the short term Richy goes upfront with Son, Maddison and Kulu behind him.

I think we'd have to go down the Bale route and spend the money on a couple of players in other positions to strengthen rather look for a replacement.

 

[Aay_Jay_Dee]

I think Bayern is as good as we could have hoped for. Seeing him for someone else in the Premier League would be a bit shite. Let him win the Bundesliga and a domestic cup, I will even support him to win the CL. Then come back to Spurs and get the Premier League record.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'm not convinced we would replace him.

In the short term Richy goes upfront with Son, Maddison and Kulu behind him.

I think we'd have to go down the Bale route and spend the money on a couple of players in other positions to strengthen rather look for a replacement.

Mate there is surely zero chance that happens as one injury to Richy or Son and we have no back-up striker option.

We can spent and spread the money around other positions for sure but no way we sell Kane and don't sign a striker to replace him, even if just a promising young one as back-up to Richy/Son.

 

[Cinemattis]

A trophy for England must surely be the greatest prize - more than any English cups or league titles, Bundesliga title or even European club titles?

Euros 2024 will be played in Germany. This will be one of Kane’s last chances to lift a trophy as England captain and become a true legend - for all time.

I wouldn’t be surprised if next summer’s European Championship plays a part in Kane’s decision making process.

A trophy for England must surely be the greatest prize - more than any English cups or league titles, Bundesliga title or even European club titles?

What does Kane think?

Would it be better for him to stay at home, playing the season in a known league, for a known club in known surroundings? Play alongside and build a relationship with a Maddison that (might) be another important player for England in that tournament?

Or would it be just as good to acclimatise to and get to know Germany for a full season up front? Build a rapport with local fans?

Uprooting his young family by moving to another country isn’t the same as it would be for you and me. Earning gazillions has its advantages in form of being able to buy all the services money can get to iron out difficulties. The wife is full time at home, nannies and assistants can be hired, there are English/international kindergartens, preschools and schools - Munich is after all a very big and international city.

 

[Jiminio]

West Ham had/have an option to extend rice’s contract by a year so isn’t really one year left, it’s really two

 

[dontcallme]

Mate there is surely zero chance that happens as one injury to Richy or Son and we have no back-up striker option.

We can spent and spread the money around other positions for sure but no way we sell Kane and don't sign a striker to replace him, even if just a promising young one as back-up to Richy/Son.

Well that was my point. Instead of looking for a singular Kane replacement. We bolster the 1st team/squad as a whole.

 

[KirstyG]

My husband (chelsea supporter) talked about him going there and I honestly felt sick. Does anyone think he would? I'm not sure how loyal he actually is as it's not clear as he is very professional.

 

[dontcallme]

My husband (chelsea supporter) talked about him going there and I honestly felt sick. Does anyone think he would? I'm not sure how loyal he actually is as it's not clear as he is very professional.

I don't see it happening. If he leaves, it's likely for titles. Chelsea just aren't in the title picture right now.

 

[KirstyG]

I think Bayern is as good as we could have hoped for. Seeing him for someone else in the Premier League would be a bit shite. Let him win the Bundesliga and a domestic cup, I will even support him to win the CL. Then come back to Spurs and get the Premier League record.

Can't see him ever returning after he goes. We'd have to be something special by then because he'd still be on mega wages.