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DenverSpur

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It feels like people don't understand that there are 3 parties to any potential transaction.

ALL of the parties have leverage.

ALL of the parties have weaknesses.


Spurs have leverage because they have Kane under contract. Spurs do not have to sell to any club, at any price - unless Spurs want to sell.

Kane has leverage because he is under contract, and can insist on seeing out that contract, and refuse all moves to other clubs.

Bayern has leverage because they have what Spurs potentially want, and what Kane potentially wants - money, long-term contract, and opportunity to compete for trophies.



Spurs weakness: financially, they cannot afford to let Kane walk away for free. The cost to replace him and upgrade other positions is significant.

Kane's weakness - he does not know what the market will look like next summer. If he does an ACL in March - what teams will be in, and what kind of long term contract would they offer? Same if Kane has an off-year (we just saw Sonny go from Golden Boot to Hot Mess) - what is the market for a 31 yo striker coming off a down year? Will he get the money or the contract length, or the teams he wants? That is the risk he takes, in addition to playing one of his few remaining years for a team out of European football. If he wants to challenge for trophies - can he afford another year at Spurs?

Bayern's weakness - quite simple, they need a striker now to compete for a CL title, and the chances of signing Kane next summer on a free are much lower, when PL clubs can offer contracts.


The other thing that seems to be lost by a few people here - Would Kane go to Bayern? Of course he would. You don't need a direct statement from Kane to that effect. Teams don't negotiate transfer fees unless and until the buying club has reached an agreement in principle with the player. Bayern don't waste their time negotiating with Spurs unless they have received assurances from Kane's team that Kane would be open to signing with Bayern.


So, contrary to popular belief - all parties have something to gain here, and all parties have something to lose here. This is a complicated negotiation - not one where any party can set ultimatums. Because all of the parties have something to lose if the negotiations fail. Which is not to say that this deal is going to happen - but, if it happens it will be because all 3 parties want it to happen, more than they want it to fail.
I agree with most of that in general except for the bold part.
Not only did Kane not cost us anything (significant) he actually made us money as we were able to sell Soldado(at a loss granted but that would have happened anyway). If Kane hadn’t come along we would have had to have bought a new striker and given our track record on buying strikers we would probably bought, and sold 2 or 3 by today at an overall cost in excess of a 100M. Add to this that if, in the unlikely scenario, he signed a new 5 year deal at the end of that deal he would leave/retire and we would need to sign a new striker.
So which ever way you look at the Kane saga we had or have to spend money on a new striker whether it was all those years ago, this season, next season or in 5 or 6 years time. For a club that is at the moment the 9th richest club in the world with a stadium that is only going to keep making us more money that should not be a daunting prospect.
The present scenario is straight forward; if Bayern want Kane, and they desperately need a top notch striker, then they need to stop playing games and make an acceptable offer. If they don’t we should just carry on like normal and see what the upcoming season brings.
 

soflapaul

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I'm still of the mind to do wahtever it takes to keep Harry thru January if he is of sound mind. Pick a number of his value to us when it comes to acheiving success in Europe.

As someone who believed that mindset and tactics were the biggest problem under the previous three regimes and the end of the Poch era, i always thought there was far more talent out on the pitch then what we were seeing as we weren't playing to our players strengths. The sample size of Ange's style of football is small but with our current signings, 2 good CBs and Kane, i have little doubt that we are in contention for top 4 barring injury. POssibly with one great CB even. One of the primary reasons is Bissouma and Madison in the middle third.

A fast start is all important because if HK sees us competing and going somewhere, then why not roll the dice and see out half the year and possibly the year? there is so little downside other than not playing CL for a year.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I'm still of the mind to do wahtever it takes to keep Harry thru January if he is of sound mind. Pick a number of his value to us when it comes to acheiving success in Europe.

As someone who believed that mindset and tactics were the biggest problem under the previous three regimes and the end of the Poch era, i always thought there was far more talent out on the pitch then what we were seeing as we weren't playing to our players strengths. The sample size of Ange's style of football is small but with our current signings, 2 good CBs and Kane, i have little doubt that we are in contention for top 4 barring injury. POssibly with one great CB even. One of the primary reasons is Bissouma and Madison in the middle third.

A fast start is all important because if HK sees us competing and going somewhere, then why not roll the dice and see out half the year and possibly the year? there is so little downside other than not playing CL for a year.
Love your sentiment and completely wholeheartedly agree however unfortunately mate I think Kane has made his mind up and we lost our chance to convince him to stay during the mess of the last 3-4 seasons.

If he does leave I think we will be ok possibly even stronger all round if we use the money to sign something like a replacement and a top RW, 2x CB’s and Gallagher.
 

robotsonic

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Is the photo with Tunchel holding up the Harry shirt leget?
...what photo?

Edit: also please tell me you don't mean this :playful:
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Edit 2: Oh dear :LOL:
 
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InOffMeLeftShin

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Breaking news, I’m interested in getting Margot Robbie involved in a threesome, not sure my misses shares the same interest though so might be a non-starter. Like that’s the only reason 😂
I’d say it’s definitely worth inquiring mate. I’d go with holding up a Margot Robbie shirt in front of her and see if it’s a goer!
 

SlotBadger

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What people might not have noticed is that Kane has been wearing all black boots during Spurs' tour rather than his usual brighter Nike ones. football.london understands that the England captain's deal with Nike has come to an end and he is now wearing his new pair, with blacked out logos, before a mega boot deal with a new company is announced in the near future.
He wore Nike boots versus West Ham, but here are the ones he wore for yesterday’s training…

(One for the boot nerds to identify)

Das Boot eins


Das boot zwei


Das boot drei
 

robertgoulet

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Doesn’t make much sense to me why he’s wearing blacked out boots if his Nike contract is up. He should be able to wear whatever he wants until he signs a new deal. In the NBA you see players whose shoe deals are up cycle through multiple brands.
 
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